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  • TravisB
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 188

    Damn it

    Hairloss is just a no win situation.

    Now we're should focus our hopes on:

    - Histogen
    - Nigam (however I have my doubts about if he's legit)
    - Follica (maybe)
    - CB-03-01

    Histogen and CB are the only things that seem to go forward without complications so far.

    Follica is very secretive and they might surprise us very positively one day, just like they did the last time not so long ago out of nowhere with their FGF9 discovery.

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    • yeahyeahyeah
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1776

      Originally posted by TravisB
      Damn it

      Hairloss is just a no win situation.

      Now we're should focus our hopes on:

      - Histogen
      - Nigam (however I have my doubts about if he's legit)
      - Follica (maybe)
      - CB-03-01

      Histogen and CB are the only things that seem to go forward without complications so far.

      Follica is very secretive and they might surprise us very positively one day, just like they did the last time not so long ago out of nowhere with their FGF9 discovery.
      Histogen will be the only one. They have already thickened up velius hairs with their solution.

      Forget about the others.

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      • bibz
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 102

        Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
        Histogen will be the only one. They have already thickened up velius hairs with their solution.

        Forget about the others.
        Fvcking pessimist ***** *****

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        • garethbale
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 603

          Are you sure this auction relates to their hair stuff. ie ji gami?

          The bidding starts at 10 million which isn't massive considering the numbers they deal in.

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          • Desmond84
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 987

            Pretty sure Gareth I suppose its only the lab equipment which shouldn't be worth more than that. The rest of the costs were involved in conducting the actual 11 trials. Plus, Aderans Research Institute was only working on the Ji Gami...there were no other products in their pipeline

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            • clandestine
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 2002

              Holy ***** that's terrible news.

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              • Pentarou
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 482

                Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                Histogen will be the only one. They have already thickened up velius hairs with their solution.

                Forget about the others.
                Histogen's HSC may never be released. Their company finances are in a poor state. We should not exclude the possibility that they could end up like ARI, short of an injection of money.

                I think the most likely successes will be treatments that piggy-back on non-hairloss conditions...

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                • walrus
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 298

                  pdg2 blockers + a HT seem to show the most promise now.

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                  • yeahyeahyeah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1776

                    Originally posted by Desmond84
                    Pretty sure Gareth I suppose its only the lab equipment which shouldn't be worth more than that. The rest of the costs were involved in conducting the actual 11 trials. Plus, Aderans Research Institute was only working on the Ji Gami...there were no other products in their pipeline
                    If yo go back to the link. you will see it is an auction from ONE SITE

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                    • Desmond84
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 987

                      Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
                      If yo go back to the link. you will see it is an auction from ONE SITE
                      It's not just one site YYY, it's their HEADQUARTERS. That's where all the R&D and cell culturing were taking place

                      The ARI HQ is listed on their website as: 2211 Newmarket Parkway, Suite 142 Marietta, GA 30067

                      All the other sites were simply injecting Ji Gami and monitoring hair count!

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                      • iH8d0ugh
                        Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 79

                        wow.. this sucks

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                        • drnigams
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 551

                          UK.
                          Kurt stenn was on one year leave... from aderans ..that's
                          what he told me at wchr,2013,edinburgh.

                          Regards my association with dr gerd,umax of the german lab..

                          1)We have agreed on an amount to have rights of their invitro microfollicle for india,wherein i am suppose to make payments in phases plus an amount per patient after the clinical trials.

                          2)Than i requested to do a mini clinical trial with regulatory approval on at least 50 patients.
                          They agreed for the same.

                          Actually i am yet to revert back to them..on when do we start.
                          They are very genuine ,but their major focus is not on MPB research..but microchip technology for drug testing.

                          The reason being, i am testing my own 3d dp culture aggregate and will create my own microfollicle ,may be in next six months..if i fail than definitely i will go ahead with their proposal.
                          This is only because of the financial commitments required...plus i do not want as on today to put all my money/effort in one basket(unless i am 100% sure)..as there are different approaches followed by different researchers...i would keep my work around different research studies..from tsuji,jahoda,christiano.fuchs.garza.and others..

                          In the meantime, gerd is ready to help me with my research as consultant,except on microfollicle technology.

                          This association also i will go ahead after 6 months..if my 3d aggregate,co-cultured dermal and epidermal stemcells in layers, fails to give good efficacy.

                          Few of you,are not aware that it is not lauster... but dr gerd who was the lead researcher in the published study...the microfollicle creation in the lab in vitro.
                          Gerd is a part of the company tissuse..lauster is only technical consultant,
                          Umax is the managing director..and this study was from the company tissuseand it's rights are with umax..the managing director of the company and not lauster...although he was ger'd proffesor in the study..

                          When i met lauster in berlin..he directed me to gerd for the details...

                          Thats why i,gerd and umax were having discussions and lauster was not part of these meetings...

                          I am holding on to buy the process of invitro microfollicle creation (from tissuse)
                          ..as i can only be confident of their microfollicle,only when i inject the same on a human scalp..and see the result for myself..

                          If i will not be able to create a micofollicle in my lab in next 6 months..i will definitely give their microfollicle a try..as a miniclinical trial..

                          It is sad to see some pessimestic guys..claiming something on my behalf...without knowing the facts..i did not disclose this information till now..as it is not possible o disclose everything in public domain..

                          I do believe in their microfollicle..but i would first like to see what happens after i inject 3d aggregate dp cultured cells..in coming months..

                          I am shocked to hear about aderans...it is little depressing...how can they Quit..
                          Washniek told me he is seeing results in at least 60% patients on whom jigami was injected..!
                          I spoke to washniek,stenn and others from aderans at wchr,edinburgh....

                          I will definitely like to take forward their work,will speak to them..if at all this news is true..

                          I have always believed to do a miniclinical trial as a medical procedure(as the regulations for a miniclinical trial for medical procedure is different/relaxed than for a drug trial)..for any hypothesis which has a potential,and than go all outonce we have the potential or part cure..or else it becomes too expensive to survive...

                          Originally posted by UK_
                          hmm well I just read a post on Hairsite that Dr Nigam isnt actually working with Dr Lauster & the German scientific team for his DP cell injection.

                          Discouraging to say the least.

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1854

                            Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah

                            I saw this coming.
                            Really? YOU saw this coming?

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                            • Thinning87
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 839

                              Originally posted by 534623
                              Really? YOU saw this coming?

                              shut up idiot

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                              • garethbale
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 603

                                Originally posted by 534623
                                Really? YOU saw this coming?

                                You are weird!

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