Aderans hopefully soon

[Kiwi]

By the way SMP doesn't seem like a bad option providing you do it in Milan

[Desmond84]

How awful is this waiting game hey! I just wish Aderans was just a bit more like Histogen...at least keeping us in the loop a bit

[Desmond84]

Btw, here's US funded study that started back in 2011 to mass produce iPS cells:

http://www.sbir.gov/sbirsearch/detail/368517

If we perfect this technique, the rest of the science is there! Tsuji labs can pretty much start Phase I within 12 months of such a discovery!

[534623]

Team Tokyo did two separate studies:

1) Hair regeneration using Dermal Papillae and Mesenchymal stem cells found in mice skin

2) Combination of human Stem cells and mice Dermal papillae which was made in a petri dish and then implanted using FUE techinque + nylon thread to direct hair in the right direction!

Just to let you know - that's NOT what they did.
And - NO, the human hair (it just grow 1 wispy "human hair") didn't grow in the proper direction!!
They just produced (as expected) an INGROWN hair initally (see the pic on the right below) and they just manually "freed" surgically the ingrown hair fiber after 3 weeks or so. Without doing this, such a "bioengineered hair" produces just a cyst under the skin.

"(b) Bioengineered human hair produced by the transplantation of a human bioengineered hair follicle germ was reconstituted by

- bulge-derived epithelial cells
- and the intact DPs of human scalp hair follicles."

Therefore (usage of WHOLE and intact dermal papillas), something like "hair multiplication" wasn't really involved at all, because they KNEW that a human hair wouldn't grow without at least big and intact pieces of human follicle tissue (hairtransplant-like) - in this case whole and intact human dermal papillas - and not just dermal papilla CELLS.

[Desmond84]

Hmmm really! which study did you find that from I_M?

Here's the one I was reading:
"In our current study, a bioengineered hair follicle, which was ectopically regenerated and matured with the hair shaft, was transplanted into normal skin using the FUT method. The bioengineered hair follicle autonomously rearranged and connected to the recipient cutaneous tissues, such as the skin epithelium, nerve fibers, and the arrector pili muscle. The bioengineered hair follicles also restored inherent hair physiological functions, such as eruption and growth of the hair shafts from the skin surface, maintenance of the proper hair cycles as a result of reproduction of follicular stem cell niche, and piloerection. Our results indicated that the transplantation of the bioengineered hair follicles can be developed into a viable alternative to conventional FUT therapy for future hair regenerative therapies."

The pictures they posted with this study says the hair naturally erupted after 22 days!

[Desmond84]

I_M whats ur take on all this stuff btw?

Do you think any viable treatments are coming anytime soon?

[534623]

which study did you find that from I_M?

I found that in the ORIGINAL papers (aka "facts") I posted month ago...

But as you know, guys like you shouldn't know that much about facts - at least on the baldtruthtalk forums....
For forums like this one, it is rather preferred to let users talk ENDLESS shit.

The pictures they posted with this study says the hair naturally erupted after 22 days!

Sure, the MOUSE hairs...

[didi]

Real cure will come from India,

Dr Nigam is fastracking true doubling technique and he works on HM

[UK_]

Here's the radio interview from a Singapore radio station:

http://www.bosleymedical.com/wp-content/uploads/938Live-Body-Soul-9.10am-to-10am-15Oct-Dr-Ken-Washenik.mp3

Check it out and let me know what you think

Rubbish interview - as usual he just avoided the questions about timeline and said we are still in phase II even though they should be in Phase III.

Theres no way they will be bringing this out by next year - no chance in hell.

Also - why isnt he stating 2014 as a release date anymore? I thought that was what he said at Tokyo presentation? When someone asks about release date he should tell them not to watch Tokyo presentation and just take propecia (because thats basically the answer he gave in the above interview).

....Now you all know why they removed the Tokyo presentation off their front page and replaced it with a video from 2005.

[534623]

Dr Nigam is fastracking true doubling technique and he works on HM

Do you think that guys like the Aderans guys work since more than 10 years on untrue HM?

And do you think that they are unable to horzontally transect their harvested Bosley grafts and are unable to add their multiplied cells to the bisected follicles?

[UK_]

Do you think that guys like the Aderans guys work since more than 10 years on untrue HM?

And do you think that they are unable to horzontally transect their harvested Bosley grafts and are unable to add their multiplied cells to the bisected follicles?

Tokyo presentation information is definately untrue.

[534623]

....Now you all know why they removed the Tokyo presentation off their front page and replaced it with a video from 2005.

As Joker mentioned (see previous posts/link), they didn't "remove" the Tokyo presentation...

http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_ournews.html

...they just replaced it with an old (normal) company video on the front/home page, but the link to the Tokyo-video is still in the "OUR NEWS" section.

But you're right - the "Tokyo presentation information is definately untrue" - at least not "up-to-date" anymore.

[UK_]

As Joker mentioned (see previous posts/link), they didn't "remove" the Tokyo presentation...

http://www.aderansresearch.com/ari_ournews.html

...they just replaced it with an old (normal) company video on the front/home page, but the link to the Tokyo-video is still in the "OUR NEWS" section.

But you're right - the "Tokyo presentation information is definately untrue" - at least not "up-to-date" anymore.

Yes I know - but maybe their web designer is too stupid to realise the presentation is still accessible on their website.

[534623]

Yes I know - but maybe their web designer is too stupid to realise the presentation is still accessible on their website.

lol...maybe...

Anyway, I think all Aderans investors should know more about Washenik's superb prediction skills ...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/15/3278666/washeniks-predictions-in-2007.swf

[garethbale]

lol...maybe...

Anyway, I think all Aderans investors should know more about Washenik's superb prediction skills ...

http://www.fileden.com/files/2012/3/...ns-in-2007.swf

that's the interview i was referring to in my earlier post.

Washenik is a joker!