RU is working wonders on Hairloss Help

[Maradona]

i'm really curious about this RU stuff. I stay away from finasteride because i don't want to risk the side effects. I know clinical trials suggest that its a small % chance, but real cases on the boards says it might be much higher.

Given that RU is experimental (and not FDA approved) isn't there a huge risk of short/long term side effects involved that we do not yet know??? in the case of Fin, they added new sides to the label after 20 years, what makes us think that the same thing or worst won't happen with RU given its not even on the shelves yet.

The problem is most of these guys in the clinical trials do have sides but they are tolerable and do not notice it or pay attention it. Us, hair loss forum members, do pay attention to it closely. Because we don't want to end up you know where.

They may have gotten itchy nipples, nutsack hurting, a bit weaker erection etc... then get better with time. The 2% doesn't really reflect who may have gotten sides, it's a lot more than that in my opinion, the other 98% simply do not notice and they may have gotten past it.

It is a big misconception that the clinical trials MEAN 0 side effects from 98% people, even spencer had the ball hurting side effect. The clinical trials kinda makes you think that FINASTERIDE is CANDY for 98%, that is simply not true and something people pay for dearly.

It means TOLERABLE or NOT DANGEROUS. that may go unnoticed.


However if those 98% drop the drug after years of taking. Please note you have changed your hormonal composition for YEARS and maintained that way. It is not only DHT that gets affected by fin, there will certainly be a endocrine crash after you drop the drug wether that lives you with permanent sides depends on the person.

But we know it happens in hair loss boards.

What makes us think of RU safety?

1. Topical
2. It goes to your follicles and nothing else, unless absorbed in HIGH amounts in the bloodstream.
3. Side effects go away in a day or two if RU is absorbed in your bloodstream.

We don't have studies but anything that doesn't affect your entire body or your hormonal composition and only targets follicles AND it's a topical sounds a LOT MORE SAFE than FIN?

The evidence? people worldwide using it from japan to spain netherlands US israel for years.

Not one dude has complained of RU permanent sides, google RU58841 it's not only hairlosshelp, many forums use it.

I would say its close to 1000 online known to be using ru, same as the clinical trials as fin right?

The main main problem WORLDWIDE with RU is it's purity and lame sources we get it from, the chinese businessman. It's a problem worldwide which i have noticed. Everyone at some point complains that their RU is not pure after the second or third order, it floats on the solution, it looks different, etc.

All the chinese were making bad RU from time to time and they still do make bad RU sometimes.

I just got an email TODAY and talked to somebody who used RU and he pretty much told me that it worked for a few months and then stopped working and then worked again etc. He told me it was his source and that the chinese were not making GOOD RU as they advertise.

Now we do have a reliable source doing the RU, 100% pure RU.
This is one of the reasons why I am even bothering with RU because I am getting what I pay for, 100% RU.

[neversaynever]

The problem is most of these guys in the clinical trials do have sides but they are tolerable and do not notice it or pay attention it. Us, hair loss forum members, do pay attention to it closely. Because we don't want to end up you know where.

They may have gotten itchy nipples, nutsack hurting, a bit weaker erection etc... then get better with time. The 2% doesn't really reflect who may have gotten sides, it's a lot more than that in my opinion, the other 98% simply do not notice and they may have gotten past it.

It is a big misconception that the clinical trials MEAN 0 side effects from 98% people, even spencer had the ball hurting side effect. The clinical trials kinda makes you think that FINASTERIDE is CANDY for 98%, that is simply not true and something people pay for dearly.

It means TOLERABLE or NOT DANGEROUS. that may go unnoticed.


However if those 98% drop the drug after years of taking. Please note you have changed your hormonal composition for YEARS and maintained that way. It is not only DHT that gets affected by fin, there will certainly be a endocrine crash after you drop the drug wether that lives you with permanent sides depends on the person.

But we know it happens in hair loss boards.

What makes us think of RU safety?

1. Topical
2. It goes to your follicles and nothing else, unless absorbed in HIGH amounts in the bloodstream.
3. Side effects go away in a day or two if RU is absorbed in your bloodstream.

We don't have studies but anything that doesn't affect your entire body or your hormonal composition and only targets follicles AND it's a topical sounds a LOT MORE SAFE than FIN?

The evidence? people worldwide using it from japan to spain netherlands US israel for years.

Not one dude has complained of RU permanent sides, google RU58841 it's not only hairlosshelp, many forums use it.

I would say its close to 1000 online known to be using ru, same as the clinical trials as fin right?

The main main problem WORLDWIDE with RU is it's purity and lame sources we get it from, the chinese businessman. It's a problem worldwide which i have noticed. Everyone at some point complains that their RU is not pure after the second or third order, it floats on the solution, it looks different, etc.

All the chinese were making bad RU from time to time and they still do make bad RU sometimes.

I just got an email TODAY and talked to somebody who used RU and he pretty much told me that it worked for a few months and then stopped working and then worked again etc. He told me it was his source and that the chinese were not making GOOD RU as they advertise.

Now we do have a reliable source doing the RU, 100% pure RU.
This is one of the reasons why I am even bothering with RU because I am getting what I pay for, 100% RU.

Who said its pure? How can you be so sure? Have people tested it? What if they just tested ONE good batch?

[BaldinLikeBaldwin]

However if those 98% drop the drug after years of taking. Please note you have changed your hormonal composition for YEARS and maintained that way. It is not only DHT that gets affected by fin, there will certainly be a endocrine crash after you drop the drug wether that lives you with permanent sides depends on the person.

I think your thinking is a bit flawed here. My amateur opinion is that some people definitely seem more sensitive to changes to their hormones, probably genetic reasons. Most of these people will experience side effects on Fin that may or may not sort themselves out while still on the drug. A smaller subset of users will be able to tolerate the change in hormones caused by the medicine but not the adjustment back to normal when they quit.

However there is no talk of an "endocrine crash" experienced when starting Fin so to claim that it will affect everyone who quits is pretty bold...I don't think it's unreasonable to say that millions of people have been on Fin or Dut and quit during the time these drugs have been available. What your saying is that millions so far have had this endocrine crash, which is notable in itself and should've attracted more attention, and would also mean that a very large number of people should have persistent side effects.

Personally I can't believe the notion that tens or rather hundreds of thousands of men have PFS and it hasn't been brought more attention? How many members do propeciahelp have, 2000+? And we don't know know how many of these who currently suffer from PFS.

[Maradona]

I think your thinking is a bit flawed here. My amateur opinion is that some people definitely seem more sensitive to changes to their hormones, probably genetic reasons. Most of these people will experience side effects on Fin that may or may not sort themselves out while still on the drug. A smaller subset of users will be able to tolerate the change in hormones caused by the medicine but not the adjustment back to normal when they quit.

However there is no talk of an "endocrine crash" experienced when starting Fin so to claim that it will affect everyone who quits is pretty bold...I don't think it's unreasonable to say that millions of people have been on Fin or Dut and quit during the time these drugs have been available. What your saying is that millions so far have had this endocrine crash, which is notable in itself and should've attracted more attention, and would also mean that a very large number of people should have persistent side effects.

Personally I can't believe the notion that tens or rather hundreds of thousands of men have PFS and it hasn't been brought more attention? How many members do propeciahelp have, 2000+? And we don't know know how many of these who currently suffer from PFS.

Sorry by endocrine crash I don't mean your body exploting or ending up in propeciahelp or having crazy zombie sides. I just meant a radical switch in hormone composition, this happens twice: once when you're on fin and again when you drop fin.
Not only DHT increases or decreases when on or off fin that's something people ignore or don't really know.

But it's ok, MOST people's body can endure. God help you if your body is not built for it.

It's something most people are able to tolerate it and some people can't.

[Maradona]

Who said its pure? How can you be so sure? Have people tested it? What if they just tested ONE good batch?

I'ts been tested and the quality of it has been noted by members at ************ to be different than all RUs. They have photos and everything, look around for them.

I can assure you and bet you my life on it that I know it's 100% pure RU.

The chinese may provide 100% RU but I heard some real bad stories about them. So I am staying out of them.

But if for some reason I can't get the 100% pure RU from the american source I may have to go the china way.

I hope I don't.

[neversaynever]

I'ts been tested and the quality of it has been noted by members at ************ to be different than all RUs. They have photos and everything, look around for them.

I can assure you and bet you my life on it that I know it's 100% pure RU.

The chinese may provide 100% RU but I heard some real bad stories about them. So I am staying out of them.

But if for some reason I can't get the 100% pure RU from the american source I may have to go the china way.

I hope I don't.

6 months of slapping this onto your head and it could be fake...

By which time i might have lost enough hair to not bother doing anything to save it again. Its risky. Anyone know someone in the UK that can confirm its purity?

Fin is risky.

Bloody hell....

[UK_]

I wonder if Spencer, with the use of some of his contacts, could help us in obtaining a 100% legit pure form of RU from a reputable source?

Instead of GSK selling Avodart they should be selling this.

[neversaynever]

I wonder if Spencer, with the use of some of his contacts, could help us in obtaining a 100% legit pure form of RU from a reputable source?

Instead of GSK selling Avodart they should be selling this.

Highly doubt he would get involved with something not FDA approved...

[Maradona]

Highly doubt he would get involved with something not FDA approved...

That's like asking spencer to shave his head or commit suicide, lol.

neversaynever this is pure RU by the way, we tested months ago and you usually see results pretty early, that is no shedding.

If you don't trust a balding brother like me OR if you can't research by yourself other forums, then you might as well go bald broseph.

[neversaynever]

That's like asking spencer to shave his head or commit suicide, lol.

neversaynever this is pure RU by the way, we tested months ago and you usually see results pretty early, that is no shedding.

If you don't trust a balding brother like me OR if you can't research by yourself other forums, then you might as well go bald broseph.

I trust people on the forums, but the only thing holding me back is that the next batch could be not pure. BUT, if someone tests the next batch and its pure then im ok. You reckon anyone will test it?

Placing my order tonight, as soon as i find my damn bank card.

Important question....can i mix RU with minox?

I dont even care about the money. Id rather not waste 6 months. Are there not freelance chemists who could analyze a sample for me?

[WarLord]

But everyone is saying that it is way better than fin, so if fin buys 4-6 years, this should buy around 10... and 10 is way more than enough to find an answer by then right? And is CB being sold yet? or OC agonist thing in the other thread?

Where did you hear that "fin buys 4-6 years"? Have you done your own study? I am really curious. Show me the data, please. I was so optimistic after reading the 10-years' results of Rossi et al. (2011), but your long-term study will unfortunately change everything.

[neversaynever]

Keep the thread about RU please. Theres millions of fin threads around.

[Maradona]

I trust people on the forums, but the only thing holding me back is that the next batch could be not pure. BUT, if someone tests the next batch and its pure then im ok. You reckon anyone will test it?

Placing my order tonight, as soon as i find my damn bank card.

Important question....can i mix RU with minox?

I dont even care about the money. Id rather not waste 6 months. Are there not freelance chemists who could analyze a sample for me?

This is why this source is expensive because it's pure RU, it was tested before and this time I'm not sure yet.

I had to research long and hard all around forums before ************ deleted the rU threads about this RU source.

What I found is the following: (note this is all internet research from forums).

1. Israelis are satisfied from this source, claiming this RU is 100x better than any other RU.
2. Polish guys are also satisfied with RU, claiming it's better than all other RUs out there
3. Spain's forums also can see the difference between this RU and how pure and fresh this RU is compared to other sources.

It's VISIBLE to the naked EYE and when you mix it it disolves nicely.

You can check all these things by how the RU looks compared to other sources.

The main problem (from my research) is that the Chinese sources: kane,faith eagle, OC, Kouting and whatever do not produce their own RU.

They are all resellers or business men, do not really have a link to a lab but many labs. And they do not know anything about chemistry, go call them a ask them questions about chemistry, they don't know much it's funny.
They all buy their RU from different labs in china and KOREA, store it in their fridge and ship it to us. If it isn't selling, they will give you bad RU with good RU mixed.

I actually have a picture I found of one of these sources having their RU on a food plate that was FINGER-PAINTED by their sons or who knows, funny as hell.

That's why sometimes you get a good batch and a bad batch sometimes.

They're not fake RU but they have impurities and it's not that fresh.

You don't want to mess with RU especially if that's your only treatment.

I recently talked to a forum member at hairsite: jarjanbix he told me the same thing. The RU worked for him sometimes and stopped working for him sometimes and how the quality of the RU he was shipped changed OVER TIME. Sometimes it looked like shit and other times it looked good, he ordered from a chinese source.

Many forum members at hairlosshelp also complain that the other RU does NOT dissolve as IT SHOULD. You can go check it out right now.

There is always threads at hairlosshelp complaining that their RU stopped working and looks bad, etc.


You won't find anyone talking bad about or complaining about "THE QUALITY" this new source of RU, in fact the exact opposite. But you will find people defending the chinese by saying their RU it's just as good even though it doesn't dissolve as well and looks all ****ed up.

There are pieces floating when you mix it and that's how you know that's a BAD RU.

This is a big problem that has now been solved because this site has a DIRECT LINK to an AMERICAN LAB producing the chemicals.

Hammer2012 and many people (including the chinese making forum accounts and their 'promoters') tried to take this down because it will affect their business.

In time, and you will see this, people will notice who had the GOOD RU.

It's only a matter of time before this RU becomes mainstream and the chinese will HAVE to produce more PURE and FRESH RU.

They will lose money the chinese but it's all for the good of RU users but for now I can't wait.

You can buy from the chinese if you want but it's risky as I explained above.

As for the vehicle I recommend either the standard vehicle ethanol PG or the KB solution you can make yourself or buy it.

Haven't heard success stories with minox with RU on it.

[lilpauly]

i'm buying equal and will be using bim @ full strength! im buying 20 grams of equal for 95 dollars i will eventually buy ru when i run out of rum

[WarLord]

Keep the thread about RU please. Theres millions of fin threads around.

Well, but I can't remain silent. The level of defeatism on this and some other forums is sickening.

Does this guy have any data to support his claim that "fin buys 4-6 years"? The first long-term study on finasteride has showed that only 10% people were losing hair after 5 years. That was in 2008. So where did he take it? Did he do his own study? I'll tell you: No. He simply made it up, being influenced by the herd negativism in his close surroundings. He still lives in the time 30 years ago, when the first sentence you heard from your local dermatologist was "There is nothing that you can do about it."

This forum is supposed to bring useful information to people, who are looking for help. But much more often, they must read posts of whining losers, who don't bother to collect necessary facts and spread blatant misinformations.