RU is working wonders on Hairloss Help

[silver]

Hi guys... I'm fairly new to this and very overwhelmed with all the information.

I would like to get in on the group buy... can I get ask a few questions and get some things worked out in my mind? Please?


The RU is in a powder and I mix it with a solution so I need to buy both from the group correct?

$180 (RU) +$24 (solution) = $204 Any other cost?


How long will this last me?


When is it shipped... or when would I receive the product?


I'm currently taking Kirkland minox. 2 times per day.... Do I just quit that cold and start with the RU or do I do both? How to I deal with this?


Are there any side effects from the RU?



Thanks guys... hairloss for me has been like a punch in the face that I get constantly hour after hour every day. I can't go much time without thinking about it and worrying or feeling so depressed.
Nice to find this forum and have some hope that i'll be able to save some hair.


Thanks again.

[Troy]

Sound thanks

Was RUM doing anything for you when u tried it? Does it work in the same way propecia does? Or a diff mechanism?

TBH at the time I felt it could be doing something positive, a little less shedding. But the truth is that I didn't gave it a good shot. Not because I don't believe it would work, it was just that I found Emu oil to be too greasy for me, and that's bad when you have a bit long hair like me.

I also tried to use RUM in ethanol / aloe vera vehicle, but it doesn't dissolve...

RUM in the proper cream vehicle used in the studies is, in my eyes a very promising treatment.

RU/RUM work in different way finasteride does. Finasteride is 5ar inhibitor, wich reduces your levels of dht. RU/RUM are anti androgens, they block androgen receptors, having high affinity for them, giving androgens a hard time to bind to them. Please not that we want anti androgens to work locally in order to reduce side effects (unfortunatly they have them too when absorbed systemically, but in a lower rate then 5ar inhibitors imo).

Hope this helps

[Troy]

I think it's hilarious, that not a single person has asked for purity papers. Don't you guys want to know what you ordered is 99.9% pure product, and doesn't have any impurities.

Why haven't those papers been posted?

Before ordering you can ask them for their current HNMR and HPLC reports

[lilpauly]

i think this group buy will be the only source that will have ru 3 party verified by a lab.

[UK_]

Has someone actually released an RU hair loss mix? So we dont have to do all the mixing ourselves and risk blood poisoning.

[Troy]

Has someone actually released an RU hair loss mix? So we dont have to do all the mixing ourselves and risk blood poisoning.

mpbtreatments - google it

[UK_]

mpbtreatments - google it

Okay thanks for that.

Are there any sites like that selling products that address PGD2? Dont like the sound of anti-androgens.

[Jazz1]

Does this PGD2 sound promising?

[Troy]

Okay thanks for that.

Are there any sites like that selling products that address PGD2? Dont like the sound of anti-androgens.

LOL No worries...

To adress PGD2 - google thekaneshop - look for CRTH2 Antagonists - OC000459

Jazz1, yes CRTH2 Antogonists do look promising IMO. Please take the time to read this interview, it's very interesting - http://www.aad.org/dermatology-world...etic-alopecia-

[Troy]

Hi guys... I'm fairly new to this and very overwhelmed with all the information.

I would like to get in on the group buy... can I get ask a few questions and get some things worked out in my mind? Please?


The RU is in a powder and I mix it with a solution so I need to buy both from the group correct?

$180 (RU) +$24 (solution) = $204 Any other cost?


How long will this last me?


When is it shipped... or when would I receive the product?


I'm currently taking Kirkland minox. 2 times per day.... Do I just quit that cold and start with the RU or do I do both? How to I deal with this?


Are there any side effects from the RU?



Thanks guys... hairloss for me has been like a punch in the face that I get constantly hour after hour every day. I can't go much time without thinking about it and worrying or feeling so depressed.
Nice to find this forum and have some hope that i'll be able to save some hair.


Thanks again.

Yes. RU is in powder form and you need to weight it and mix it in K&B solution (it's the best vehicle imo, but there are others) in order to make a solution in your prefered concentration (1% - 5%).

RU58841 - $180 (10g) + K&B Solution $46 (250ml) = $226

How long it lasts depends on the concentration you use. Trials showed best results with 5% 1ml per day.In this case 10g will last 200 days. But there are people that have good results with lower concentrations. Some people claim that 10g lasts them a year...

RU is being tested and group buy will end in the beggining of October, so sometime in October you should get it.

You should not quit minox, I think RU is not strong enough to maintain the hairs that "belong" to minox...You should use them both, try to use them at least 30mins or 1h apart.

There are testemonials of anti androgen like side effects (brainfog, low libido...), but in much lower rate than finasteride. K%B solution is suposed to lower side effects and increase efficacy, because it lowers systemic absorption.

Hope this helps

[dex89]

Yes. RU is in powder form and you need to weight it and mix it in K&B solution (it's the best vehicle imo, but there are others) in order to make a solution in your prefered concentration (1% - 5%).

RU58841 - $180 (10g) + K&B Solution $46 (250ml) = $226

How long it lasts depends on the concentration you use. Trials showed best results with 5% 1ml per day.In this case 10g will last 200 days. But there are people that have good results with lower concentrations. Some people claim that 10g lasts them a year...

RU is being tested and group buy will end in the beggining of October, so sometime in October you should get it.

You should not quit minox, I think RU is not strong enough to maintain the hairs that "belong" to minox...You should use them both, try to use them at least 30mins or 1h apart.

There are testemonials of anti androgen like side effects (brainfog, low libido...), but in much lower rate than finasteride. K%B solution is suposed to lower side effects and increase efficacy, because it lowers systemic absorption.

Hope this helps

This answered all my questions, I will defiantly be in the group buy. Thank you.

[Troy]

Glad to help...

[Amino]

This question got me thinking...

So in the patents of K&B solution, the solutions of 5% and 2% are:

So let's say we want to transform your 5% into 2%, and what you can easily get is distilled water and ethanol.

The ratios change mainly in these two.

60ml 5% solution contain 27% water (something like 16.20 ml) and 63% ethanol (something like 37.80 ml)

You have to start with yours 60ml, let's assume you'll make the double of this - 120 ml - wich will get you a little more than 2% of RU concentration, and we can try to base our math in the Kraemer & Bohn’s 2% RU58841 solution.

120ml 2% solution contain 54% water (something like 64.80 ml) and 40% ethanol (something like 48.00 ml)

Based on the diferential of water between 5% (60ml) and 2% (120ml) (16.20ml / 64.80ml) I guess you can try to add something like 48ml of distilled water.

Based on the diferential of ethanol between 5% (60ml) and 2% (120ml) (37.80ml / 48.00ml) I guess you can try to add something like 12ml of ethanol (96%).

I don't know if this will work...I would appreciate also someone's thoughts on this...

Resuming: Add 48ml of distilled water and 12ml ethanol (96%), you will get 120ml with a much more diluted solution.

Hi Troy,

Thanks for your input,

I'm going to try this, sounds plausible - anyone else have any comments before I commit to using it?

Thanks.

[silver]

Thank you Troy, I appreciate your help.



Thanks again

[freddiegemini]

i've ordered 2% KB + RU mixed solution from mpbtreatments but wishing now i was part of the group buy as the RU will be tested. I'm not sure i can trust mpbtreatments with the quality of their product having read some of the stories.

does anyone know if mpbtreatments get their RU tested and how they can guarantee quality of product?