Is there honestly anything other than the big 3 worth looking into?

[Louish]

Never underestimate the power of placebo effect

[Vantage]

OK well , What I can do is to check if this is actual good science.

Let us know what you think. I think funding could be a problem as most of the studies are obviously funded by the manufacturers.

That last systematic review I linked to put LLLT above minoxidil. I found that pretty interesting.

But I can tell you no one in real life has any results.

Out of curiosity, how do you explain the 300+ positive reviews for the iRestore on Amazon?

[Louish]

OK well , What I can do is to check if this is actual good science. But I can tell you no one in real life has any results. For instance the study behind the use of Nizoral for hair loss is not good science. All it shows is Fina works and minox and keto are equally useless. Problem is doctors are not very good at understanding studies...most of the time. Only people in the research field themselves can really judge.

[Vantage]

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Here you have the first one in complete not just the preview you could only access. Plz use only for private us as this a copyright owned document.

One of the few perks of being an academic scientist is we have access to everything published.

Thanks for the offer but I also have access to all of them, thanks to our Russian friends (sci-hub).

[Louish]

Lanzafame_et_al-2013-Lasers_in_Surgery_and_Medicine.compressed.pdf
Here you have the first one in complete not just the preview you could only access. Plz use only for private use as this a copyright owned document.

One of the few perks of being an academic scientist is we have access to everything published.

[Vantage]

I did, send me the studies and I’ll tell you if they make sense, Or just send me the details I have acces to all published studies not availaible to the public for free.

The Growth of Human Scalp Hair Mediated by Visible Red Light Laser and LED Sources in Males

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24078483

The growth of human scalp hair in females using visible red light laser and LED sources

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4265291/

Low-Level Laser (Light) Therapy (LLLT) for treatment of hair loss

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3944668/

iRestore study, not published (yet?).

https://www.irestorelaser.com/blogs/content/irestore-laser-hair-growth-system-is-now-clinically-proven-grow-hair

The effectiveness of treatments for androgenetic alopecia: A systematic review and meta-analysis.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28396101

[Louish]

I did, send me the studies and I’ll tell you if they make sense, Or just send me the details I have acces to all published studies not availaible to the public for free.

[Vantage]

Everyone who tried LLLT knows it does norhing. Myself an many friends that of mine included.

Did you try it long enough? I think at least 6 months is necessary.

Going by 4 published scientific studies and hundreds of positive reviews on Amazon I think it must be doing something. The iRestore is on a 4.0 out of 5.0 rating now. Sure some reviews can be fake, but not 300 positive reviews.

https://www.amazon.com/iRestore-Laser-Hair-Growth-System/dp/B01B29PCUU/ref=sr_1_1_a_it?ie=UTF8&qid=1513767010&sr=8-1&keywords=irestore#customerReviews

I have only tried it for about 3 months now, in my subjective experience it's doing something. I need more time though to truly evaluate the results and my pictures.

[Louish]

Everyone who tried LLLT knows it does norhing. Myself an many friends that of mine included.

[BaldingHelpMe]

The big 3 didn't do much for me (2-3 years) until I added in dut. which has stopped the loss and given me some regrowth.

When you say added dut, do you mean taking both fin and dut? Or switching fin to dut instead?

[Vantage]

With 4 studies backing up LLLT now I'd say it's worth looking into.

[Louish]

Big 3 is a lie, only fina/dura actually work...At a cost. Can't comment on derma roller, it might work. LLLT Doesn't work. PRP makes things worse.

[coolhairgone]

heard lot of good thing about derma roller. it is said to be the big 4.

[TobyJay]

The big 3 didn't do much for me (2-3 years) until I added in dut. which has stopped the loss and given me some regrowth.

[JohnMPB]

Imo big 3 should be the foundation. Anything else is icing on the cake. Remember fighting hair loss is a marathon, not a sprint. If u care about ur hair you'll likely spend years trying to fight it. Imagine applying 8 different topicals everyday for 10 or 20 years. If u really need regrowth, I'd experiment with things slowly by adding to the big 3.