Dr Klein promox patients! Read if you need help.
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Hi all,
New here, Jazz I have been following your thread and have ordered from Susan, waiting for my order. I was a long time Dr Klein patient and was shocked by the sudden loss. The only thing I am concerned about is that Susan cannot put biotinoyl tripeptide 1 in the formula. There was a time when Dr Klein switch pharmacists and did not add that and my frontal hair started to fall out. Then he went back to his old pharmacist and my hair got better. I don't know much about that ingredient. Seems to be in those eyelash growth things but I think its a key ingredient as to why his formula worked. I had it with it in it and without and that is the only thing that changed. I had bottles stored and ran out about a month ago and used one of the old bottles without biotinoyl tripeptide 1 and same result. BTW I used the foam..My question to the group and to you Jazz is what do you think of this? Can your backup get that ingredient? Has anyone else had this result that used Dr Klein for a long time? I really think that biotinoyl tripeptide 1 was a key to my frontal hair growth. Thoughts?Comment
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Hey what ingredients did you add with Susan and what was you using with Dr Klein? I been using Susan's lotion without Biotinoyl Tripeptide and my hair is doing great, if anything my hairs are growing longer around the hairline. The quality of her mixture must be working better on me, she has had it lab tested for efficacy.
I personally believe there nothing better topically than Fin/AA/progesterone/tretinoin/hydrocortisone to combat androgens and DHT. Although I have recently placed another order and going to trial something new; Acetyl Glutathione, Vitamin E and Vitamin C.Comment
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Jazz.. Sorry sleeping all day, getting over a cold. From Klein I used the foam Promox 5% for I don't know how long over 4 years.. From Susan I got the the lotion minus Hydrocortisone. Plus I am trying out the foam as well. I have googled till I'm blind looking for that Biotinyl Tripeptide 1... You never mentioned if your back up could get that?
Yes I saw that revita had that but they never list how much like Klein did. I am still searching for Biotinyl Tripeptide 1 from compound pharmacies. I have a call out to one, who will get back to me in a few days.
I am lucky that my Dr. will write a script for it so that part costs nothing. How long have you been on Susans? Have you posted pics?Comment
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Hey I Been using her product since October and yes I have been taking pictures since which I will update my other thread. There are other ways to obtain Biotinyl Tripeptide 1 which is Revita COR, Procapil, I will check later for more.
Yes i did ask Susan and she claimed it is similar to biotin which she uses in her lotions if required etc......Comment
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Another update email Susan sent me to help you guys, slight change:
Base formula:
Minoxidil (offered in 5%, 12.5%, 15% and 30%.)
AA 5%
RA 0.025%
Finasteride 0.1%
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NOTES:
Minoxidil is available:
30% CREAM ONLY
12.5% LOTION ONLY
15% CREAM and LOTION ONLY
5% SPRAY LIQUID AND LOTION ONLY
NOTE: IN THE 5% SPRAY IS MINOXIDIL 5%, FINASTERIDE 0.1% AND AA 5%-NO OTHER ADDITIVES!!!!!
WE OFFER A 5% MINOXIDIL FOAM WITH NO ADDITIVES
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General additives to everything BUT 5% spray liquid and foam are:
Progesterone 0.25%
Hydrocortisone 0.1% (NOT 1%)
BIOTIN 1.3%
DMI
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Also another update:
MINOXIDIL AND ADDITIVES
The following are basic ingredients that have proven scientific validity in hair loss when applied topically:
Minoxidil – while the exact mechanism of action is unclear, minoxidil is the gold standard ingredient for treating androgenic alopecia
Finasteride – a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, stops the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT). *Added topically, finasteride works synergistically with the other ingredients to halt further hair loss and promote thickening and re-growth with lower incidence of systemic side effects than oral use
Azelaic Acid – a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor, stops the conversion of testosterone to dihydrotestosterone (DHT)
Retinoic Acid (Tretinoin)– a vitamin A derivative, promotes growth and development of new skin and aids in absorption of other active ingredients
Progesterone – a hormone naturally occurring in both men and women that acts as a 5-alpha reductase inhibitor
Hydrocortisone – a corticosteroid that reduces inflammation, can be added if needed to prevent irritation from higher dose minoxidil
Vitamin E – antioxidant and follicle softener, also increases blood circulation (all our minoxidil creams and lotions contain vitamin E at 0.1%)
We do not recommend adding grape seed extract to a topical formulation because of concerns with staining and there is no scientific literature to prove efficacy.
***We recommend an oral grape seed extract supplement instead of topical use
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In addition to our custom minoxidil formulations, we have a combination acetyl-glutathione and biotin liquid for daily use.
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We are formulating 3 adjunct OTC topicals to be used before applying the Minoxidil:
Acetyl Glutathione with vitamin C and E.
Progesterone 3% leave-in treatment
Acetyl Glutathione 3% with Biotin 1.3%
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Biotin – a B vitamin that strengthens the hair from the root to increase hair anchoring and targets DHT to prevent hair loss
Acetyl-Glutathione – potent anti-inflammatory and antioxidant, stimulates mitochondria, breaks down DHT, and detoxifies environmental xenoestrogens which are commonly found in fragrances, bath and body products, personal care products, and cleaning and laundry products.
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Hair health involves the follicle. *1/3 of hair is in the growing phase, 1/3 is in hair loss phase, and 1/3 is in the process of development to maturity. *The goal is to protect the DNA and prevent free radicals from breaking down the cells in the follicle. *To that end we recommend use of antioxidants, SLS-free shampoo/conditioner (Check out our line of NON-TOXIC STIMULATING shampoos and conditioners on our hair loss page), and avoidance of pesticides/chemicals in food and water, and eating healthfully.
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Oral supplements recommended for management of hair loss:
Murray Avenue Apothecary’s DHT/Hormone Balancer Caps-contains Saw Palmetto (alternative to finasteride) with other DHT balancing ingredients for hair loss and prostate health.
Grape seed extract – a concentrate of flavanoids, linoleic acid, vitamin E and oligomeric proanthocyanidins (OPCs), the last two constituents are known to stop hair loss and promote hair regrowth. *
Other oral supplements include Vitamin E Succinate, Zinc Methionine, , Acetyl Glutathione-exclusive to Murray Avenue Apothecary, Linolenic Acid-Borage oil or Evening Primrose oil, Fish Oil, MAA Easy Absorb Iron -with Iron Bis-Glycinate, Thyroid Support, Vitamin B Complex and Biotin Forte
Find this thread for all information:
https://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showth...%21&highlight=Comment
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Guys , I just wanna give you an update : It looks that dr.klein website is ready to take orders now , before that they just working on the website and the promox and other solutions was not ready to order , but now it seems they are ready to take orders after 2 months of they announce that his formula will be come back , Because you all looking for his products this is the website that you can order his formula's :
I haven't use his products yet but because my friend jazz and also some others recommended that I'm very excited to try that in future , although I have good result with my lipogaine so far . So there are many different options of solutions from lotion ,liquid and foam on website ! sounds great.Comment
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Jazz.. Sorry sleeping all day, getting over a cold. From Klein I used the foam Promox 5% for I don't know how long over 4 years.. From Susan I got the the lotion minus Hydrocortisone. Plus I am trying out the foam as well. I have googled till I'm blind looking for that Biotinyl Tripeptide 1... You never mentioned if your back up could get that?
Yes I saw that revita had that but they never list how much like Klein did. I am still searching for Biotinyl Tripeptide 1 from compound pharmacies. I have a call out to one, who will get back to me in a few days.
I am lucky that my Dr. will write a script for it so that part costs nothing. How long have you been on Susans? Have you posted pics?Comment
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I got a good result with promox foam I got some frontal growth and it slowed down the fall out. I'm losing ground now plus I'm now on Synthroid for thyroid so that does not help. As I said I think biotinoyl tripeptide 1 is important with frontal growth but can't find a pharmacy that carries it. I also think that even though Klein had it on hid label, I think even he stopped using it cause he could not get it because I did much better in the first few years. I would have loved to lab test it.Comment
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Hey,
I got a good result with promox foam I got some frontal growth and it slowed down the fall out. I'm losing ground now plus I'm now on Synthroid for thyroid so that does not help. As I said I think biotinoyl tripeptide 1 is important with frontal growth but can't find a pharmacy that carries it. I also think that even though Klein had it on hid label, I think even he stopped using it cause he could not get it because I did much better in the first few years. I would have loved to lab test it.Comment
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I see , thanks a lot for your answer Maac , I'm not sure if you know that or not , Promox is ready again to order from dr.klein website , they came back to business again , Its really interesting that the price of foam is really good and much cheaper than liquid since it is 150ml and its like 72 dollars. I still don't know the reason . Wish you the best.Comment
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