Life isn't worth living if you're bald.

[jimcooper]

I agree with that Life without hair is totally distrubing. Hair is the integral part of the personality, but thanks to science there are lots of treatment is available for baldness.

[Munkynutz]

I have no doubt it could help any of the inflammatory or autoimmune disorders including stuff like arthritis. Also helps with a ton of other things. I mentioned before it helped regrow hair on skin I had psoriasis on before (which stopped hair from growing). Also noted that if I cut myself I'd heal in like 24 hours for any small cuts that usually took days.

I imagine eating like that takes a lot of the strain off your body and let's it function at its best, not to mention everything is so nutrient packed and poison free that it can't help but give all your cells a serious boost.

Even the recipe alone combined with normal food is probably a great help. I have also experimented with eating nothing but crap before and in the span of a month or so it drives my skin absolutely insane.

I'd be happy to share how it is done with anyone interested thiugh. You guys know where to find me.

[ParanoiaDestroya]

Interesting. Well, food definitely influences the level of inflammation in the body. I wonder how many dermal manifestations can be linked to it. An anti-inflammatory diet is indicated in Rheumatoid Arthritis and other conditions, and I know it's what I need to do, considering I have elevated inflammation. I know for sure that some of those foods you mentioned contribute. I need to lower my sugar consumption, and just avoid tomato altogether (it gives me hives and makes me feel awful anyway).

[Munkynutz]

Hmmm yah I had to look up keratosis to even know what it was!! Sometimes it looks a lot like psoriasis it seems. Nasty.

For medication I was given Topicort which is a steroid. It is not great but it works on the small patches (if you catch one early enough it even seems to 'cure' it) but by and large as soon as you stop using it, it ceases to work.

I was recommended to go on some sort of systemic drug byy physician which would suppress the immune system - no effing way. So I started to look at alternatives.

The first read I had which made sense to me was by Dr Pagano who wrote a book called Healing Psoraisis: a natural alternative or something. He was a chiropractor who had observed changes in skin conditions though nothing but food. Intrigued me but hard to follow the food regime so nothing.

Then I came across this:

http://www.howtobeatpsoriasis.com

And though originally ahh yes fake. But the information was free with your own psoriasis story so I wrote it, and got the info and a light went on. I didn't do it for the next two years then when I broke up with my long term ex I was on my own and had nothing to do but adjust to single life so I said screw it and tried his smoothie.

Cut out bread, red meat for the most part, wheat, dairy, the nigh shades (like tomatoes) and sugar almost entirely and started eating fish, poultry, and a ton of vegetables and drinking his smoothies.

They're made up of lettuce, soy milk, olive oil, parsley, onions, carrots, butternut squash, sweet potatoes, celery, broccoli, cauliflower, and your choice of bananas, apples, pears or grapes as a sweetener. Oh yah and some green tea.

Anyway I stuck with it. Month 1 - little change. Month 2 skin smoothing, month 3-6 it totally disappeared and then I bought a house and renovated it and went back to the old ways and within about 4 months it all came back.

Awesome right? But I learned I could naturally get rid of it. Skin was healthier too, more energy, and crazy sex drive. So well worth it.

Just getting back to this now though several years later hahaha.

I'd be happy to supply anyone with all the info in greater detail but pm me and we will chat.

[ParanoiaDestroya]

I'd call that slow, for sure. You're relatively fortunate!

As for dermal issues, I can actually relate to a degree. I was diagnosed with seborrheic keratosis and dermatitis as a kid, and in my teens it was especially wicked. So I've used prescription clobetasol .05% for years, and it works beautifully. At this point I don't need to use it nearly as much. But with the keratoses, I haven't actually shaved my head so I don't see them, but if I went bald I imagine I would, and then I would need cryosurgery or something to have them removed. Dear lord...

What treatment(s) do you use for your psoriasis?

[Munkynutz]

Thanks dude. The psoriasis will go, I've done it before. Took a while to come back too but I e eaten a lot of bread and crappy sugary foods for a bit. Not enough vegetables. Seriously appreciated thiugh. Funny I have no photographs of myself with a shaved head Huh? I guess I don't have a ton of them anyway.

For me I will describe slow loss:

High hairline all my life. The shape of my head I guess. I didn't even notice this crap until I was probaboy in my late teens and began to look more closely at other people and myself and learn the things I didn't like about myself.

So... Damn I should use photos. Anyway from 15/16 on I looked like a classic NW2 but I suspect my hairline was almost always this way. Even as a kid I had a high brow.

Move into my mid twenties and I have a hairline more reminiscent of an NW3 but with good thickness all over. It may actually have even been sooner than this. And lots of people were telling me I was going bald around 21 on when I first started working.

Now move forward into my mid 30's. Same hairline, maybe a little thinner in front but looks the same as it did when I was in my late 20's, at 30, a few years ago - actually may be better now than a few years ago.

That's pretty slow I think yah? :P

[ParanoiaDestroya]

What is generally considered "slow"? I have wondered this because my brother's first became noticeable probably around 19, and now at 28 he is super thin. So the process could have started 10+ years ago for him. I haven't seen him in a year, but at this point he would probably benefit from a concealer.

Good fortunes with your psoriasis and head shaving, Munky.

[Munkynutz]

Hahaha nice. My hair loss has been gradual and so damned slow but I agree I am not interested in the disfigurements associated with fin, although it seems not everyone suffers from that either.

Before thinking of either of those solutions once I have finished annihilating this sickening psoriasis I am going to rock a shaved head for a bit again and see what I think. It's been a while and I have somewhat forgotten what my head shape is but if I find it acceptable and like it I'll never have to consider the alternatives again. Maybe grow some hair again later and see what if anything has changed.

I hate having long hair as it is so I assume if I wanted to transplant any hairs it would be easier than if I wanted to rock a full head of hair. Meh.

[Vox]

I'll talk to a doctor about it anyway. Also doses like that tend to leave the DHT levels in your blood alone. I don't want a reduced sex drive. It's very strong as is and I love regular sex (and with different women) so that's not something I care to give up hehe.

Well, I dwell in the exactly opposite side of the spectrum: sex meant nothing to me but at my time there was no medication. Yep, zero options. What I could not take with today's treatments is mood changes and disfigurement, like face changes and gynecomastia that other people report. I prefer the baldness disfigurement over this. At least, baldness is a male trait considered to be natural. So, I landed in glorious NW7 territory pretty quickly. And as it is well known, nothing can be done to revert with today's treatments. But as I said in the first page of the present discussion, I can consider myself lucky from another perspective.

[ParanoiaDestroya]

Thank you, Illusion. Folks will absolutely catch me in my worse moments, don't get me wrong (you read my intro thread), but no matter what I say elsewhere, that second paragraph is what I really believe. I am new but I can tell already that co-misery is a defining characteristic of this place. I think that's useful to a degree - absolutely - but you and Spencer are right when you say that spending hours every day in this element can be a negative thing. There's a lot of negative reinforcement happening. But by joining I feel like I can find some support and also try to turn the tide against the propagandists. So many guys are screwing themselves out of effective treatment because they've been influenced by fear mongering and anecdotes.

[Munkynutz]

What do you normally take and that is good to hear. I am probably a NW2.5-3 right now in terms of temple recession, but no visible crown spot or really much on top. I figure when moving properly to AB instead of interim stuff I woukd buzz my hair right down and have a good look and see what can be seen but last time I did that I only really noticed thinning in the front.

[Notcoolanymore]

I have debated trying fin on and off. However I think a lot of the doses are insane and reading the information on it, it seems like you can reduce your scalp DHT massively with just .5 every other day.

I'll talk to a doctor about it anyway. Also doses like that tend to leave the DHT levels in your blood alone. I don't want a reduced sex drive. It's very strong as is and I love regular sex (and with different women) so that's not something I care to give up hehe.

I was an older(36) guy when I started and to be honest I haven't felt any difference when it come to sexual function. Micro dosing might be a good idea for safety reasons. There was a guy on here having success with a .25mg dose.

[Munkynutz]

I have debated trying fin on and off. However I think a lot of the doses are insane and reading the information on it, it seems like you can reduce your scalp DHT massively with just .5 every other day.

I'll talk to a doctor about it anyway. Also doses like that tend to leave the DHT levels in your blood alone. I don't want a reduced sex drive. It's very strong as is and I love regular sex (and with different women) so that's not something I care to give up hehe.

[Munkynutz]

Both excellent points man. And yah agreed with the people give up to early. There are more than enough people out there who have had brilliant success keeping hair with fin or min, and other treatments too.

I did min briefly but it made my head too itchy and as I have mentioned before I suffer from psoriasis which made scalp stuff much worse.

I know how to get rid of psoriasis thiugh but it requires some serious discipline. If any of you have this sh*t and want to get did of it feel free to msg me and I can tell you how to do this. It requires a massive change to diet and that's about it.

[Notcoolanymore]

Great post. I just wish everybody on this forum could get into a mindset like this. In fact, if this was the overall spirit on this forum, I think this forum would be a much healthier place to visit for information on hair loss, on regimen related questions, on future treatments, and so on...

Though some people indeed carry out that spirit, I also see threads like this one, or posts about how society hates all bald men and how there would be a conspiracy against bald men and so on... I mean sure, we don't have to sugarcoat MPB. But we don't have to go to the other side of the spectrum either.

This post sounds kinda hippy-like but I'm sure you guys can see where I'm coming from.

This is how I feel about our situation. Yeah I am not speaking from a NW6 perspective, but I wouldn't call what I have on my scalp a good head of hair either. MPB sucks, no doubt about it, but your life doesn't have to end because of it.