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  • topcat
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 849

    Lounk do you know how many guys have been on the forums praising this clown for example. Anyone that has been around the block knows that those low hairlines were unethical so unethical is unethical and the same applies to mega sessions plain and simple. Anyone that tries to post common sense is often attacked and many just do not listen so maybe they deserve what they get at least they had the option of the information being given to them.

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    • inspects
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 260

      Originally posted by topcat
      Lounk do you know how many guys have been on the forums praising this clown for example. Anyone that has been around the block knows that those low hairlines were unethical so unethical is unethical and the same applies to mega sessions plain and simple. Anyone that tries to post common sense is often attacked and many just do not listen so maybe they deserve what they get at least they had the option of the information being given to them.

      http://antonioalviarmani.wordpress.com/
      Topcat,

      Incredible...I read some of the posts on that forum, some poor dumb uneducated individuals following each other over the cliff to nowhere.

      There was a post from one doctor who also posts on here, it looks like he stuck a bowl on the guys head and placed grafts around the edge of the bowl, it looked so ridiculous I couldn't believe my eyes.

      I seen your recent post also, warning others to do their homework before getting mega-sessions done. Or anything done for that matter.

      Great to have a man like you trying to warn these people before they ruin their lives.

      Cheers Topcat...!

      -Dale-

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      • Lounk61
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 138

        Wow topcat. I hope you didn't personally have to go through all of that crap and suffer that much pain and heartache. I know I got screwed in the 70's with those plugs I got and was taken advantage of. I didn't know things were still that bad today in the industry some 35 years later. I won't be making any rash decisions and will have my consult with Dr Umar and take it from there. I don't know what your feelings are about him or if you've seen or heard about his work. From what you say your bht is going ok. No real scarring and good healing. I definitely don't want anymore fut work done on me even though my current ht Dr wants to keep doing small fut's on me until my donor hair is depleted. Cutting into my scalp even in the hands of a skilled Dr doesn't make sense. Fue would be my only choice. I just hope bht is a voluble option for me and will work as I feel it will be the only way to get the required amount of hair on my head to look reasonable. I should of used Paul Mcartney instead of Elvis because he was more my time. hope you are satisfied with what you are getting done and the look you are achieving. I'm trying to get there. I'll keep posting to let you know how my consult goes Dr Umar next week.

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        • topcat
          Senior Member
          • May 2009
          • 849

          Lounk I think part of research is investigating the past. Since this forum has not been around that long you need to visit the other sites and start searching history as the past if often an indicator of the future. Many of these same doctors that everyone thinks are so great are not so great if you look at the history. It’s like they try and reinvent themselves on the internet which works really well as all these young guys just look at the showcase results and the chances of reading anything negative is very slim as you need to be in the right place at the right time and that is why history has to be searched. Even with that being said some sites like the one mentioned on that blog have archived a good amount of history and for good reason as I was around 15 years ago and reading it most clinics would like to see it disappear.

          Some of these patients need to start suing the reps and the forums that are knowingly manipulating information which affects the choice a patient makes and often results in damage.

          Whatever you do and whoever you choose go very small as small as possible. You can always go larger later if you feel good about it.

          Here is another example there was a poster on another forum that stated he would like to have a procedure with Gho and have another doctor in Canada not the one mentioned in the blog plant the grafts. Well that same doctor recently had a mega session turn into necrosis for the patient. That is how much these young guys know. What’s even funnier is you got these posters that come on these forums telling us we are bitter old men and these guys have never had a procedure in their life, yet they feel its okay to advise others. I say sue them too.

          Always ask a lot of questions during you consult and remember the doctor is no better than you are so don’t put him up on a pedestal. Hopefully he is skilled in his work like many others in their occupation if you like him as a person than all the better but never let your desperation force you to make a bad decision.

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          • Lounk61
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 138

            I have to tell you topcat you make a lot of sense. I will have the consult, ask a lot of questions and determine what my next step will be. I'll take your advice on taking it slow and have a small session to start even if a mega session is suggested and sounds good. I can always go back for more later. Again though, I'm 61 and would like to have a reasonable looking head of thinning hair for the next 20 or so years I have left. They might come up with a cure but It will probably be too late for me. If I could sue the Dr and the clinic that did the plugs on me in the 70's I would. Too late for that. There should be more law suits now though against bad ht docs and the phony clinics that lure young guys in with false hopes. Hope that happens. Maybe it will clean up the industry. Thanks for all of your input and sincerity.

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            • Delphi
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 517

              Originally posted by topcat
              Some of these patients need to start suing the reps and the forums that are knowingly manipulating information which affects the choice a patient makes and often results in damage.
              Interesting idea Topcat. I wonder if this poor guy could sue you for pimping Bisanga and BHR relentlessly on all of the forums. How do you mange to talk out of both sides of your mouth so well?

              I had approx. 2200 FUE grafts transplanted by Dr. Bisanga in Brussels in June of 2012. I am currently five months post-op and feel that the doctor has botched the design of my hairline. For a number of reasons the design looks wonky and unnatural. In addition, I have form of ridging in the front of my hairline known as

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              • topcat
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 849

                Unfortunately Delphi that would be incorrect. I recommend small sessions the smallest possible, with small punches and for the patient to find a doctor they feel comfortable with as far as skill and personality.

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                • Delphi
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 517

                  Originally posted by topcat
                  Unfortunately Delphi that would be incorrect. I recommend small sessions the smallest possible, with small punches and for the patient to find a doctor they feel comfortable with as far as skill and personality.
                  That is such bullshit Topcat! Just by virtue of all of your rhetoric and posting of your repair journey and praise for Bisanga, all the while aggressively disparaging every other doctor and clinic, could have put this poor guy and many others in harms way. Stop being such a hypocrite! You pimp Bisanga and BHR and you know it. You claim you know how these forums work, so do you deny that when young vulnerable guys read your rants and then see who you went to that this does no sway them? Are you saying that you think Dr. Bisanga was unethical in performing such a large hair transplant on this guy?

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                  • topcat
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 849

                    You see Lounk this is what I mean. Go back and read the history of this Delphi and his postings, what is his purpose on the forums you tell me. Now go back and read my postings on some of the other sites going back to 2003 and others later as most have been archived. It becomes very confusing over time to figure out who is telling the truth unless you spend plenty of time on the forums and speak with people in person or on the phone.

                    You are a repair patient you tell me would you wish this on anybody or would you try to warn them.

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                    • topcat
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 849

                      Lounk do yourself a favor and start speaking with more patients in person or on the phone the forums are of limited value as they have become corrupted to some extent.

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                      • Lounk61
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 138

                        In the end it's up to each individual to research as much as possible before going in for any kind of procedure. I am not a fan of doctors in general. They are people just like us who have a medical degree. Like in every profession there is the good and the bad. Hopefully we can weed out the bad. Unfortunately some people are more easily led astray than others. In the hair restoration industry emotions are played with and false promises are used to gain peoples trust. It's human nature. There are always people being taken advantage of and the people who take advantage. Hopefully things will turn out ok for me.

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                        • Delphi
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 517

                          Originally posted by topcat
                          Lounk do yourself a favor and start speaking with more patients in person or on the phone the forums are of limited value as they have become corrupted to some extent.
                          So I'm assuming that by not responding to my post that you do find that Dr. Bisanga was unethical in performing such a large hair transplant (in your opinion) on this poor guy? Interesting.

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                          • Delphi
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2009
                            • 517

                            Originally posted by Lounk61
                            In the end it's up to each individual to research as much as possible before going in for any kind of procedure. I am not a fan of doctors in general. They are people just like us who have a medical degree. Like in every profession there is the good and the bad. Hopefully we can weed out the bad. Unfortunately some people are more easily led astray than others. In the hair restoration industry emotions are played with and false promises are used to gain peoples trust. It's human nature. There are always people being taken advantage of and the people who take advantage. Hopefully things will turn out ok for me.
                            Well said Lounk61. Good luck and keep us posted.

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                            • topcat
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2009
                              • 849

                              Lounk on my first procedure even though I traveled all the way to Brussels I only wanted 25 beard hairs extracted and the doctor laughed. After speaking with doctor Bisanga he convinced me that 200 would be very safe. I felt comfortable to go for what I thought was a huge number as he seemed very honest and I can laugh about it now. Do what you feel is safe as you have to take responsibility. I will put up some pictures at 9 days to show you the advantages of a small procedure. You can go on with your life like nothing was done and before you know it improvement just happens over time.

                              As I have written some of these guys just don’t get it. This thread is about showing what is possible and giving others some hope. They are free to choose their own doctor just know some of what to look for. I have spoken of other doctors in the past that I like, Wood for example. I absolutely admire the balls it takes for him to tell it like it is along with his work. In fact a sent him a personal note recently complimenting him because it’s not easy being attacked all the time. And yes there are some clinics I like here in the States but in some cases I really liked the work and didn’t like the doctor or I really liked the clinic but didn’t feel they could help me with what I needed. Everyone’s situation is different.

                              I asked Dr. Bisanga to just go ahead and shave my head to make it easier but he just shaved a small area on each lateral hump and left the rest alone including the recipient. Now I don’t have to explain why I’m wearing a hat at the Thanksgiving dinner table. With just a little concealer I’m already almost back to normal. These pictures are 9 days post op.

                              I will not shave for at least 3 more weeks and have only trimmed the hairs with a beard trimmer so as not to exfoliate the skin.







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                              • inspects
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 260

                                Coming along Nicely Topcat....!

                                Great you can just ignore other naysayers. Everyone has different results, no two people are the same.

                                Nobody can determine what their hair will look like 12-18 months from now after a procedure, I haven't read one negative post from your doctors results expect the one linked to a prior post.

                                I pray his hair will look fine when it grows out, swelling subsides, hairs begin to fill in between multiple hair follicles, I wish the best possible results for everyone on this forum, and to others who do not post.

                                Depending on the nature of the procedures, some people may need to style their hair slightly differently to achieve a more natural look, or more fullness than their actually achieving at the short time period after a transplant.

                                As you know there are possible complications when anyone has a procedure, no doctor can guarantee anything regardless of what type of medical procedure is performed, but I do believe some doctors are just better than others from experience they have gained after thousands of transplants.

                                Hopefully everything works out for the best and life goes on.

                                Many thanks to you for being an outspoken advocate of the hair loss world, I wish their were thousands more like you. After I continue my journey, I will do my best to help anyone I possibly can from con-men and doctors publicizing results when the patient him/her selves are not posting.

                                I believe I read everything there is to know by reading your journey, I pray all people read it, to me its enlightening, to the point, and truly impressive.

                                Although hair loss is not the end of the world, I truly feel sorry for the young men on this forum posting their lives are shattered because of loss.

                                I understand the mental anguish among young individuals and I hope I can hope just one person regain the credibility they once had.

                                Your hair looks great, and the FUE extractions are about as minimal as can be.

                                No doubt, you made a wise choice in your educated decisions.

                                I can only hope-pray all posters the very best possible results without unexpected consequences after the fact.

                                Again, I thank you for sharing your own personal experiences.

                                Best,

                                -Dale-

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