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  • topcat
    Senior Member
    • May 2009
    • 849

    #61
    RD here is a suggestion for you since you want to be so proactive. Bust your ass and save up some money. Go visit Gho and have a procedure. Then come back to the forums and post about your experience with monthly updated photos. That is being proactive.

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    • HelpROGER
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2008
      • 120

      #62
      I’ve been following your story and your posts here for a while and I commend you for doing this! I can’t believe what those doctors have done to you. I was all set to go to MHR for my first hair transplant until my mother told me that I should read this site. I would say that Spencer Kobren probably saved my life. I spent like 5 hours on this site and listening to some of his past shows which made me cancel my surgery. I learned that I was not even ready to have one. Having this forum that allows people like you to tell your story really helps me put things into perspective and I’m so grateful to have found this forum.

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      • VictimOfDHT
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2011
        • 747

        #63
        Originally posted by topcat
        Bromin I cannot use any hairs from the donor area on the back of my head as I need that hair there to cover the scars. Donor hairs do not grow back once harvested.

        All this was done in the USA by doctors at the time that were promoted as being some of the best at the time. In hindsight these doctors were not the best nor were they ethical. You see this is something that most simply refuse to understand. Many of the doctors today are no different having very poor ethics, limited skill, and just being in it to make as much money as possible. It is only sometime in the future when looking back that most will be able to see this is true. As for now the few patients that do speak up just appear to be disgruntled as opposed to beacons of light warning of the rocks ahead which is too bad.

        I am amazed when I hear of those traveling long distances to come to the USA to have HT surgery because they believe that is where the best in the world are located. That in my opinion is a complete crock of sh*t. I love my country but it has become completely corrupted with greed. What they are good at is marketing and making you believe.

        We have a culture of greed here and the ht industry in not immune to it. Anyone considering a hair transplant should in my opinion only consider FUE in small sessions using a hand punch in the .75mm - .85mm range and no larger. If you read this and you decide to take another road than I wish you luck but you also need to bear some of the responsibility for making that decision. I unfortunately did not have access to independent information in the past.
        Yup. Greed. Greed is the cancer of our so-called civilized societies. That and the lack of any morals, ethics and conscience especially on the part of those who should have more of them than any of us -doctors. Of course not all doctors are like that but there are more than enough roaming around and ruining the lives of thousands of unsuspecting people and making a shitload of money while at it. All under the nose of the government that's supposed to be protecting us from these heartless monsters.
        All of these scumbags should be rounded up and burned alive. They are NOT humans, period.
        I can't believe this is happening in a country where there are supposed to be laws preventing these blood sucking human leeches from operating, but of course I know better than to believe the government. There are 1000's stories out there about butchers ruining the lives of people and even causing death under the NOT so-watchful eye of the government. It's happening this very moment in many places around the country. The human race is a failure.

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        • Bromin
          Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 76

          #64
          Originally posted by VictimOfDHT
          Yup. Greed. Greed is the cancer of our so-called civilized societies. That and the lack of any morals, ethics and conscience especially on the part of those who should have more of them than any of us -doctors. Of course not all doctors are like that but there are more than enough roaming around and ruining the lives of thousands of unsuspecting people and making a shitload of money while at it. All under the nose of the government that's supposed to be protecting us from these heartless monsters.
          All of these scumbags should be rounded up and burned alive. They are NOT humans, period.
          I can't believe this is happening in a country where there are supposed to be laws preventing these blood sucking human leeches from operating, but of course I know better than to believe the government. There are 1000's stories out there about butchers ruining the lives of people and even causing death under the NOT so-watchful eye of the government. It's happening this very moment in many places around the country. The human race is a failure.
          What do you expect out of a country made from capitalism? The greediest will naturally gravitate towards the fields with the most potential.

          There wouldn't be good without the bad, so wanting a society full of good samaritans is a moot point; something that is only ideal and achievable through fiction.

          But this is obviously going off-topic here and could become a flame war haha.

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          • RichardDawkins
            Inactive
            • Jan 2011
            • 895

            #65
            topcat did you accidentaly not read what i said or was it with full knowledge.

            Again i invited you to present your whole story at our blog uncensored for the sake of informations and the guarantee that this posting wont be deleted or censored or whatever mods do with such things.

            This hair multiplication blog is not only about that, its about education and show people uncensored and unbiased things.

            Oh and me and others we left hair site because its a psycho place which leads to nowhere. Hair site is a dead end street

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            • topcat
              Senior Member
              • May 2009
              • 849

              #66
              RD I’m really not interested in posting to your blog. My suggestion to you is to start a HM thread as previously stated. To promote something of which you do not have any actual experience does not sit well with me. When you have your procedure you can give a detailed account with plenty of photographic evidence to prove it to the world that you do in fact have donor regeneration. I wish you only the best of luck in having a great outcome but at this point I think it is completely irresponsible to suggest to others that HM is happening with no concrete proof. It’s no different than others that have suggested Acell, plucking or all the other bullshit seems to be working. Who makes the patients that experienced negative results whole again? Who pays for their damages? Are those same patients suppose to forget about those who promote without proof?

              RD I post for one reason and that is this industry is a thorn in my side that doesn’t go away. I’m not going to sit by and just remain quiet and watch others being taken advantage of. I do it for my own self satisfaction as I don’t work in the industry. Sure many don’t like what I have to say but if they feel it’s not the truth than it would be easy to dispute and they are welcome to reply. I’m also sure many of those same individuals can’t figure out why I would take my time to be completely honest and try to help others as to them it is a completely foreign concept to do something without being compensated.

              Get luck with your blog but please stop asking me.

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              • topcat
                Senior Member
                • May 2009
                • 849

                #67
                11 month update 2nd procedure

                Here is my 11 month update after my second procedure.

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                • topcat
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 849

                  #68
                  3rd procedure scheduled

                  I have scheduled my 3rd procedure with BHR for May 19th of this year. Once again my donor situation will be evaluated and this will dictate the size of the procedure. My improvement so far has made a huge difference in my life. I have received some comments that no improvement can be seen by some on the forums. I’m not quite sure what to make of those comments but I can say they hardly bother me and I always make a point to respond to them. No one knows my hair like I do and at this point styling has been much easier and it is a huge relief.

                  Many also cannot understand why this long drawn out amount of time in the repair process. Only those in the same shoes or those old enough to know that the older you become the less risk you are willing to take will understand. This is what many of the young guys who are still making bad decisions in regards to hair transplantation fail to grasp. You have a valuable resource in those that have been around and have gone before you slow down and use it. They do not make any money from this industry in any way and they do it because they know that many of these naïve young men are easy prey for too many clinics and they can’t stand to see it still happening.

                  There are many experts in this business but I would suggest becoming your own expert. In my opinion anyone in this business that does not tell you that proceeding slowly with fue first using a small hand punch and a smaller procedure from which you can easily decide at any point that you would not like to pursue hair transplantation further and still look normal and that it must be performed by a skilled doctor that has a natural artistic talent is not doing what is in your best interest. Most of the innovation is in fue for a reason and until everyone can perform it with high yield and in my case no scarring you will not see it heavily promoted, that is just the way the world works, money all too often trumps ethics.

                  I will update everyone before I leave before my procedure.

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                  • topcat
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2009
                    • 849

                    #69
                    I recently had someone ask me to post a current picture of my chin area where I had approximately 500 fue extracted from an area about 2sq inches. They felt that there was scarring. In my opinion I do not visibly see scarring. I do have the slightest redness due to dry skin and working outside but other then that I am very pleased with the donor area.

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                    • topcat
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2009
                      • 849

                      #70
                      I am reposting my response here from another forum to a question regarding white dotting. I believe it to be valuable information.

                      Nasser my own life experience has taught me to investigate thoroughly and don’t take necessarily take someone’s advice because they where a white coat and have a piece of paper hanging on the wall. Too many of these types have a feeling of self importance and they develop an arrogance that they rarely like to have questioned.

                      The doctor that told you that you would experience white dotting may be 100% right. In his hands there very well could be white dotting, high transaction rate, poor extraction pattern, over harvesting, low yield, etc. But you see that is how the hair transplant industry works. They like to leave out information so they are not necessarily lying in fact they are still being truthful but it certainly does not help you make an informed decision when you don’t have all the information.

                      I could give you so many examples in other areas but I will use one on nutrition. Does meat cause cancer? Well if you eat meat the way it’s raised for profit the answer would probably be yes. It is laced with estrogenic hormones, antibiotics, very high in the omega 6 fatty acids and outside of not only feeding the cow an unnatural diet of grains it is also fed other dead animal parts except now they have to leave the other cow parts out to avoid mad cow disease but the rest of it is still being used. Unusable parts from goats, chickens, pigs, dogs, cats, road kill etc. Now would something like this cause cancer my guess would be yes, very probable. Especially when the same product is heated to very high temperatures producing lots of advance glycation end products.

                      But now if we were to look at meat that is not produced for profit but with the consumer welfare in mind the story is completely different. The cow eats only a diet of grass and the meat is very high in the omega 3 fatty acid along with being very high in conjugated linoleic acid another potent cancer fighter and also a great repartioning agent forcing the body to put on more muscle and burn more fat. When the meat is cooked very slowly on low heat, think soups and stews with the meat still on the bone all the glycosaminoglycans are released which help stimulate the growth of new healthy collagen and help repair damaged joints and skin. But you see this advice is free and no one makes money on free so maybe they better stick with the Acell. BTW the supplement manufacturers don’t like this type of information either.

                      There is a point to all of this. The guy selling you the crap is not going to tell you about the guy selling the other better product that you need to learn on your own.

                      Here are both my before and after pictures.



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                      • topcat
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 849

                        #71
                        Here is a picture of the same beard area 4 days post op. As I have often posted I went out for dinner and walked around Brussels the next day and I felt completely comfortable. Not one person so much as took a second look at my beard area where the fue's were extracted. This is why I feel that small hand punches are superior. It's from my own research and my own experience. It's not something that I just pull out of thin air.

                        It's also why I often post that in my opinion Acell is complete marketing bullshit and hype. The human body has been using foods to help heal the body for thousands of years. Maybe patients should consider foods that are nutrient dense and heal the body as opposed to abusing it and looking for the magic bullet. But clinics can't make money by suggesting foods plus they wouldn't even know where to begin and they often no nothing about the subject.

                        I will put up my healing speed against Acell any day.

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                        • topcat
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2009
                          • 849

                          #72
                          I will be uploading some current pictures of my case as next week I will be having my 3rd procedure with BHR. Yes the procedures are small but that makes them affordable and I can say without doubt the yield is exceptional along with the healing, what more could a person ask for.

                          The first set of pictures are the most important at least they are for me. Picture number 1 is my before picture using a massive amount of concealer while the following 3 pictures require only a light dusting of concealer. For me this is huge and only I know the difference it has made in making my life easier as I don’t have to stress out about how my hair looked like crap in the first picture. I understand many others might not quite get it but then they probably never will.







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                          • topcat
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2009
                            • 849

                            #73
                            Just updating with my donor area pictures before I leave for Brussels this week. I have been in the sun a little as once I have my procedure I will need to avoid it so loading up my vitamin D levels beforehand would seem to make some sense and I am 100% against using sunscreen as I believe the consequences are exactly the opposite of their intent.

                            My experience has been zero white dotting and extremely high yield. I tend to hear this misinformation by many of the other clinics. Not that white dotting does not exist for some patients but this issue comes down to choices that a patient makes as too many choose for convenience, same goes for yield. Just choose the right clinic.

                            This will be my 3rd procedure and the hairs should be starting to come in right around my 50th birthday which is a gift I am most grateful for. I also plan on dropping about 20lbs as I no longer need to carry the extra weight around which was job related. Of course I will do this over time as that is the best way to approach goals in my book. Slowly with constant and never ending improvement and I would suggest the same for anyone contemplating a hair transplant.

                            Take your time and make your choices because they are the right choices and not because they are convenient.

                            My chest hairs have been trimmed beforehand with lots of gray same with the beard.



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                            • clandestine
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 2002

                              #74
                              topcat; you're ****ing ripped mate. shave your head and just go with it, mayhaps.

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                              • TheNitwon
                                Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 56

                                #75
                                Holy schnipe topcat! If I had a body like that I'd shave my head and hit the beach. Girls galore!

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