disgusting

[Follicle Death Row]

No. We should be focusing on the results, first and foremost but learning about how results are presented is what should be learned in ADDITION to the results being seen. One thing that I wish you would learn more about, Topcat, is how flash photography makes hair look completely different than in reality. It can be just as deceptive as using concealer and many clinics, even "good" clinics, use this trick even after I've proven how deceptive this is.

Only way to do is like you guys are doing it Joe. High definition video in normal office lighting. If the front, side, back and top down shots look good with a brush through you know the work is good.

One thing that has amazed me is the incredible coverage achieved in some of the cases Dr. Hasson and Dr. Wong. The London Lad top down video shot with the comb through is incredible. It actually looks like native density. Unreal.

I'm little concerned though that a lot of the other clinics haven't adopted high definition video yet. I think it should be required for all IAHRS members. I would go as far as to say we should try and actively push for Spencer to make this mandatory. With hi-def camera work, comb throughs and proper lighting you can actually get a much better idea of the reality of the situation. This really helps prospective patients know where they stand.

What do you think Joe? Anyone else agree?

[PayDay]

Payday please explain to me how my lighting is deceptive. The actual result is under high power fluorescent lighting and clearly shows the result to date. I should have mentioned that this particular picture with concealer was taken under lighting that was less harsh and that was clearly stated when I originally posted it to my repair thread to make a point. I also included a picture with concealer and the same florescent lighting to show everyone the difference that not only concealer can make but the effect lighting has on the result. This is all important information and for a doctor to sit there and not know and not say anything is complete deception and this is what makes the majority in this business unethical.

Jotronic I am somewhat familiar with lighting but I am always open to learning more. It took me a long time just to learn how to get a close up picture that was very clear. I think my lighting where I am showing the actual result is good but if you have a suggestion that would make it better I am always open to listening.

I disagree it's not just about the results. It's probably more 50/50 skill, natural talent and then ethics, honesty, caring etc. I have met a few doctors that had skill and as people they are complete assholes and in my opinion not ethical. In fact one happens to be on the very list that a few posters on here keep promoting, but they don't seem to know much. I let tthat particular doctor know I wouldn't use them if they were the last clinic on earth.

Relax Topcat, I did not mean that you were being purposely deceptive. I just wish you people would stop being so negative. This topic is polluted with bitterness, sour grapes and pent up anger. We are all in this together, why cant you people just be civil? No one can deny that Jason Gardiner's results are excellent. He was really bald. Do you think H&W could have done a better job with the same number of grafts? Just admit that it’s a good hair transplant that Gardiner is obviously very happy with and move on to your next forum battle.

[chrisdav]

http://www.hairtransplantziering.co.uk/jason-gardiner/jason-gardiner-photos.htm

These pictures would suggest that his hair is not what appears to be on the video from live tv.

Now either that was the most generous lighting ever or its concealer.

I have no grudge towards any surgery or surgeons, but misleading the public by false advertising is unethical.

I have had it personally done to me, having had two previous surgeries which were failures and I know what this industry is like.

[Spex]

LOL - I think the pics need to be smaller

[topcat]

Spex if you are referring to my pictures I agree. They upload to the other sites smaller for some reason I will have to resize here next time.

Payday I am very relaxed. What is it about expecting or stating the truth that so many see as being negative. I don't quite get that.

The man is going on national televsion for exactly what purpose and his doctor tags along for what purpose? How many young men are going to see that and think that the same would be achievable for them with 3000 grafts because no one told them he has make up caked into his hair. And don't expect most of the clinics that they consult with are going to tell them either.

Seems like it would be very important information to know.

[Spex]

TC,

I was referring to the pictures on the link above of Jason Gardner. They are tiny and not very clear at all.

However what is VERY clear is his results do not resemble the ones he displayed on national TV at all. His hair was much much thicker and this cements the FACT concealers were worn on TV in order to misinform the public and embellish his results.

Why didn't he go on TV and actually show the 'results' of his HT........ ?

Is concealer being worn on the pictures on the site too .. ?

Hey we will never know... yet anyone with half a brain can see this for what it is. The public will most certainly be disappointed when they don't get results anywhere like Jason Garnders results on TV if they sign up for it.

Classic false advertising in my honest opinion. End of.

[SilverSurfer]

Spex and Topcat

Good Look Ink,
Can you please help me decide if this place Good Look Ink is a good option to consider?? Here is the page ***********
I just came across it and went into their page and saw very interesting results. What worries me is that it would need constant maintenance. Has any of you heard of this place before? Do you know of someone who has had this or a similar procedure, what were the results? Sorry I am using this post to ask my questions but I was unable to post a new entry. Thanks for your help.

[Spex]

2 dimensional blue dots. Seen it in person recently.

I would only consider it personally to help scaring, nothing else in my opinion as not natural looking.

Regards
Spex

[SilverSurfer]

Thank you Spex. I was considering it for the crown area due to the fact I am
out of donnor. SO you are saying if you were in my position you would prefer to bald 'gracefully' rather than use that method in your head? How often do you have to retouch it?

[Spex]

I know nothing about the processes other than i wouldn't do it based on the results i saw in person.

[SilverSurfer]

Thanks again Spex, I appreciate your time and answers.

[Spex]

No worries - here to help!