ACell, a Current Review of Applications in Hair Transplant Surgery

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  • UK_
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2011
    • 2691

    Originally posted by RichardDawkins
    Regarding Minox and Fin you should pay attention to this ncbhi site there are fine examples of WHAT those two miracle drugs can actually do.
    Thats great! But your new treatment must still beat the current FDA approved treatments for it to be economically viable.

    Originally posted by RichardDawkins
    The question " Where is the science" is irrelevand, just irrelevant. Those anecdotal experiences, well name me the doctors?
    No it isnt, Dr Cole is asking for the science, he has every right to do so, and so do I as a potential consumer.

    Originally posted by RichardDawkins
    Cause 92% vs 0% from your praised Dr Cole, seem to me more then just anecdotal.
    So did Dr Bernstein get it wrong?

    Originally posted by RichardDawkins
    You dont get the point with your Internet Chat World of Warcraft Meme talk.

    When hairs are cut in pieces they normally dont grow but with Acell they do, so what is anecdotal about this. .
    Is there any evidence to suggest a 75% success rate regarding plucked hairs? If there is, please post it here.

    Originally posted by RichardDawkins
    Seriously i hate people who use LOL that often, are you 13 or what? So what science do you want? The science from 8 years ago where people described this? Or do you wanna read Gho papers where he also described that stuff.
    I thought Dr Gho cured hair loss with unlimited donor 10 years ago? LOL What happend to that? Back then there were just as many over-excited individuals like yourself who got their hopes utterly dashed.

    Let me ask you something, did Dr Gho provide any evidence/science for his original studies? Were any of them large/major controlled studies? NO.. NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO NO! It was only when his process was scientifically scrutinised that the house of cards came crashing down, along with the hoards of gleeming hopefuls like yourselfBAH!

    History repeats itself sunshine.

    Which explains my entire reason for quoting Dr Cole: SHOW ME THE SCIENCE.

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    • wolvie1985
      Member
      • Sep 2010
      • 51

      Dawkins, stop feeding UK opportunities to reply with 'show me the science'.

      We get it, UK. We get your position. Fine. Please move on from it, because now you're just hijacking this thread and this broken record stuff is no longer constructive.

      Dr. Cooley is performing acell plucking on patients once or twice a week. He says he is seeing consistent results over the last two years that has him very excited. He has been in the field for 15 years. He is a doctor, a specialist in his field, and a preeminent and trustworthy one at that. His IHRS presentation, if you've seen it, shows that there is a phenomenon that warrants further investigation. Fine, up until now you can characterize the evidence ass nothing more than anecdotal and insufficient to proclaim mission accomplished. Fine. It's not 'science' yet. But he and others are working towards the 'science' you want and there's reason to be optimistic. Fine, it's not a slam dunk. So just stop. You're starting to look like a shill for Dr. Cole, or nothing more than a troll. So move on from your point please.

      Dawkins, do not engage this guy any further, for Christ's sake. Move on. You're not going to convince him. None of us will. Don't give him the satisfaction of debating this guy any longer.

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      • UK_
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2011
        • 2691

        Originally posted by wolvie1985
        Dawkins, stop feeding UK opportunities to reply with 'show me the science'.

        We get it, UK. We get your position. Fine. Please move on from it, because now you're just hijacking this thread and this broken record stuff is no longer constructive.

        Dr. Cooley is performing acell plucking on patients once or twice a week. He says he is seeing consistent results over the last two years that has him very excited. He has been in the field for 15 years. He is a doctor, a specialist in his field, and a preeminent and trustworthy one at that. His IHRS presentation, if you've seen it, shows that there is a phenomenon that warrants further investigation. Fine, up until now you can characterize the evidence ass nothing more than anecdotal and insufficient to proclaim mission accomplished. Fine. It's not 'science' yet. But he and others are working towards the 'science' you want and there's reason to be optimistic. Fine, it's not a slam dunk. So just stop. You're starting to look like a shill for Dr. Cole, or nothing more than a troll. So move on from your point please.

        Dawkins, do not engage this guy any further, for Christ's sake. Move on. You're not going to convince him. None of us will. Don't give him the satisfaction of debating this guy any longer.
        I look forward to Bernsteins study and hope Richard, you were right about everything.

        Looks like he's covering the whole shabang aswel; PRP, Plucking, Acell+PRP Injected n' their uses in transplants also.

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        • KeepTheHair
          Senior Member
          • Mar 2010
          • 1215

          Thanks for making this thread unreadable.

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          • RichardDawkins
            Inactive
            • Jan 2011
            • 895

            Only one thing

            Bakez F*** YOU you are stupid. If i would be 23 years old and suffer hairloss i wouldnt play Mister Big Shot here and discredit Dr Hitzig at Hairsite and here.

            So instead of using an overdone Facepalm picture you are not able to argue and tell us WHY Acell failed? When Dr Cole as Mister "Shoe me the bla bla" got a 92% yield with and 0% without Acell.

            Answer the people here in a mature way or just leave this place and even hairsite forever because you contribute nothing, no links no nothing, all you do is leech and destroy.

            Thats it no more to say to those two trolls anymore

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            • SilverSurfer
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 116

              Is this UK the same clown that a few weeeks ago was pushing for the Trx2 product claiming it would do miracles and is now here bashing at this ACell thread?
              C'mmon UK you clearly have some sort of agenda. Why don't you stop with all the drama and let the reasearchers, Doctors and others really interested in this topic fill us in. In the meantime you can still go and do your cheerleading for the Trx2. What do you say champ?

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              • UK_
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2011
                • 2691

                Originally posted by SilverSurfer
                Is this UK the same clown that a few weeeks ago was pushing for the Trx2 product claiming it would do miracles and is now here bashing at this ACell thread?
                C'mmon UK you clearly have some sort of agenda. Why don't you stop with all the drama and let the reasearchers, Doctors and others really interested in this topic fill us in. In the meantime you can still go and do your cheerleading for the Trx2. What do you say champ?
                What on earth are you blabbing on about? Since when was I "pushing for TRX2"? Go, run along and find me a post in which I directly stated that there is scientific evidence for the efficacy of TRX2.

                Hurry up, you made the claim, you find my quote.

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                • RichardDawkins
                  Inactive
                  • Jan 2011
                  • 895

                  Ahh before it goes down i just wanted to show you guys the question about plucked hairs from the root, some people here still believe that they are gone *cough* *cugh*

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    Originally posted by RichardDawkins
                    Ahh before it goes down i just wanted to show you guys the question about plucked hairs from the root, some people here still believe that they are gone *cough* *cugh*

                    http://www.baldingblog.com/2011/03/0...t-by-the-root/
                    Cool, plucked hairs grow back, so baldness is cured right?.. what are we all still doing here? lol.

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                    • HairTalk
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 252

                      I doubt this will nail the coffin of insipid back-and-forth that's been going on, but I thought I should mention:

                      ACell used in hair-transplantion surgery currently (March, 2011) is being studied by a few doctors (e.g., Cooley, Bernstein) — I've gathered this from calling the clinics. Tests are to involve use of the compound in fully-bald men, and would involve observation of donor and recipient areas (not necessarily in the same subject). Definitive results should be available in early 2013 (patients would be operated on through early 2011; progress would be monitored over twelve months; results would be analyzed, organized, then shared). These results should provide quantitative and qualitative data.

                      Until that point, then, anyone not immediately involved in this research would have no strong claim to the efficacy — or to the lack thereof — of the compound in relation to hair-transplantation.

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                      • RichardDawkins
                        Inactive
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 895

                        At hair site Doctor Hitzig answered some questions really honest, i was impressed.

                        Especially considering the amount of beard hair (only 35)

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                        • tk72
                          Junior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 3

                          Who would you guys recommend for hair transplant repair and why? I had 700 grafts done about 15 years ago when I was 23 and would like to have them removed along with pitting and scar. I just want to be able to shave my head until they get kinks workout with acell, histogen, follica or whatever. Also any doctors opinions would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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                          • SilverSurfer
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 116

                            I am a repair patient. Dr Cole did my work and I must say it is great. By the third month I could already see an improvement and by the 8 month mark you couldn't see any signs of the mess that was there before. I would definitely recommend him. I would recommend him to you because he will be as straight forward as possible, you will get great yield with fewer grafts and most important his work is totally natural and undetectable.

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                            • RichardDawkins
                              Inactive
                              • Jan 2011
                              • 895

                              Of course Bro of course. You plucked her hairs out 15 years ago and they didnt grew back.

                              Strange that some people who pluck their hairs out almost every month (because this mental illness or whatever) will grow it backif they stop it.

                              Ahhh now i see, First time poster registered April 2011 right. And let me guess it seems to happen that you got the exactly right adress, which beauty salon we should Ask RIGHT

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                              • plopp
                                Member
                                • Dec 2010
                                • 30

                                lol, rich, you're seriously starting to freak me out. do you even have mpb?

                                As for nemo's point, the claim that hairs would grow back ever weaker is unsubstantiated. There are also 'internet theories' that they grow back thicker (especially if you don't want them in the first place...)

                                However, scarring alopecia is a real thing. Given that you actually pulled of a complete patch of hair from your neighbour in one go, you must have applied quite some force. Further, given that 7 year olds 1) are prone to fibrosis given their young age and 2) likely have quite weak follicular structures still, you may very well have induced permanent hair loss.

                                As Dr Cole (TS) stated, regeneration of the follicle is no sure-fire thing (especially not when it comes to Gho, but let's not get there rich ), and is really the last hurdle before I jump on the plane and get some autoplucking done

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