Feedback on Dr. John Cole

[Bald1974]

Any one has experience with Dr. Cole? I am considering his new clinic in Athens...

[Raphael84hair]

@bald1974

How are you?
I would recommend for you to conduct some searches on Dr Cole.
He is undoubtedly one of the most respected and leading, visionary physicians in the field of hair transplantation. His experience can not be matched. You will struggle to find a more ethical and better surgeon than him.
Feel free to contact me for more information regarding the new clinic in Athens and I can explain in more depth the motivations behind it. It would be a good opportunity for me to field any questions you may have.
I look forward to talking with you.

International Patient Advisor - Bisanga Cole Hair Transplant Clinic - Athens, Greece
http://www.bchairtransplant.com
bc2@bchairtransplant.com

[John P. Cole, MD]

What do you want to know? In 2003 when no one knew how to do FUE, and many patients wanted it, I figured FUE out and then taught as many people as I could how to do it. From there, FUE blossomed. Then I designed the tools people use today. Now I make tools that only the surgeons I work with have access. Today my objective is to help patients with a limited budget get a quality procedure in a clinic with well-trained staff. Helping me is Chris Bisanga, whom I trained many years ago. He has a world-class reputation with years of experience and thousands of happy patients. We will still do our best to manage our clinics in a more limited capacity, but the focus is on helping patients avoid disasters. There are two types of patients. There are those that are not concerned with cost. There are those very concerned with price. Those very worried about cost are vulnerable. They go to clinics in dangerous countries. Often, their donor area gets destroyed, and their results are poor. We want to help these people find a way to restore their hair in an environment where we control every aspect of the surgery to ensure quality. Our goals are to build a wall in front of "risky" work and provide a safety net for those suffering from their hair loss. There isn't much to understand. You have two of the pioneers in FUE hair transplant surgery with very affluent patients dedicated to helping individuals avoid ruining their lives by focusing on price over quality based on necessity. You see, Dr. Bisanga and I both comprehend what is required to be a great hair transplant surgeon. To be great, you need experience. We have that. To be great, you need to be able to perform every aspect of the surgery so that you can properly train a team. Hair transplants have evolved into extensive procedures that require a team effort. In the team, there are those that place and dissect grafts. Most physicians have never spent much time dissecting and placing grafts so they don't comprehend how to teach it. We do because we have both done it. Our teams have been with us for over 15 years. They are highly trained and skilled. Many clinics are so focused on cost and volume that they have nurse turnover primarily because these nurses receive such a low wage. That's how these clinics sell at such a low price. In most low-cost clinics, you never know who will be working on you because the experienced nurse is likely to leave any day to make $20 more a month above her $800 per month salary. Then you get the inexperienced nurse at $600 per month. The risks associated with meager wages are why we are so focused on protecting patients from ruining their lives. It is not that you can't get a great result from many clinics. It the results are inconsistent and often ruinous. Inexperienced teams with poor training can ruin a patient's donor area and result for life. We attempt to stop this.

I've done more FUE than anyone in the world simply because I've been doing FUE full time for a much longer time than anyone else. There are some very talented surgeons in this world. There are many clinics where you can get a great result. There are also many clinics where you can get a horrible result. Our objective is to deliver consistently good results for patients that are price conscious. Along the way, we are doing our best to make this a great patient experience with transportation from the airport to the hotel, transportation from the hotel to the clinic, transportation from the clinic back to the hotel, and transportation from the hotel to the airport. In between, one can have a wonderful sightseeing opportunity in the birthplace of modern civilization.

Our clinic is a considerable opportunity for patients in a safe country protected by the European Union. There will be no government coup and no suicide bombers here. Tourists come here annually without risk nor concern for their safety.

One has to comprehend what is happening in the world today. It is a hazardous scenario. We decided to do something positive regarding it.

[John P. Cole, MD]

https://vimeo.com/301685453?ref=fb-share&1&fbclid=IwAR0bLa4SaMywqLB4GiwOZobgUr4ELev3UY_5NYnOpkhPcYuZB8hs2GhePJM

Beware and be cautious. There are many great doctors. There are far more clinics that are cause for concern.

[John P. Cole, MD]

I am very grateful to Spencer Kobren, Joe Tillman, and Spencer Stevenson for their efforts to identify quality surgeons. There are many quality surgeons. There are far more "risky" places to have your hair restored. Trust these guys to help guide you. Also, beware of the forums. There are many clinics with impermanent staffs and a financial focus trying to lure you in.

[mrclean]

Dr. Cole would be on the short list and the list is very short.

[Raphael84hair]

I believe that these recent posts from Dr Cole is something that everybody interested in a hair transplant procedure should read.


International Patient Advisor - Bisanga Cole Hair Transplant Clinic - Athens, Greece

http://www.bchairtransplant.com

bc2@bchairtransplant.com Whatsapp - +34 642 37 03 83

[John P. Cole, MD]

i have rarely met a more detailed focus individual than Chris Bisanga. He is the perfect guy for me to work with. Quality results are all about details. He was amazing when Chris worked with me and he is totally fantastic today as a surgeon and attention to detail.

[John P. Cole, MD]

Thanks. We try to meet expectations.

[John P. Cole, MD]

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[xadiohead]

Our clinic is a considerable opportunity for patients in a safe country protected by the European Union. There will be no government coup and no suicide bombers here. Tourists come here annually without risk nor concern for their safety.

Dr. Cole, the majority of what you wrote in your initial post makes sense except where you start fear mongering about foreign countries. I presume you are referring to Istanbul and your quote I copied comes across as desperate. Istanbul is pretty far from any realistic government coup and suicide bombers there are extremely rare. Millions upon millions of tourists visit Istanbul every year and there are very seldom issues with tourists. Of all the people I have seen travel overseas for a hair transplant, I have never seen anybody have a single issue with safety.

You can make the argument that going to Istanbul for a hair transplant is risky because of the surgeons, technicians, facilities, etc which is a fair argument, however your part above is just ridiculous.

[John P. Cole, MD]

With all due respect, xadiohead, how much business have you conducted in Turkey? I went there over my Thanksgiving holiday to train a group of 50 surgeons on my own dime. These surgeons were from all over the world. I brought enough equipment to train 50 surgeons and then pack it out. Unfortunately, customs stopped my 20-year-old daughter with over 30k in instruments that were coming in and then out. They locked her up in customs jail overnight. They gave her no blanket. Only a mattress on the floor. For dinner, they offered her a cigarette, a cup of coffee, or a candy bar. She chose the candy bar. After I paid a $4000 fine, they released her nearly 24 hours later but seized all the instruments. I have been in and out of Turkey many times over the past four years setting up a training center and training surgeons. I have been very happy that with all my entries until two years ago when they seized but returned my instruments on my exit. Nothing bad has happened in terms of life and limb. I'm not hard on Turkey because it is home to many well-qualified surgeons and friends. It is still not the safest country and the customs people have an agenda at times. I have done a considerable amount of work to build up a clinic and help Turkey prosper from it. I can say that I will not return again. Nothing can be assured in Turkey. It is one of the most geopolitically corrupt countries in the world. I don't trust the political process there, nor the people. I do know there are some great surgeons there. There are also some dangerous surgeons there.

What we are focused on is something positive and not negative. We know that we can't offer treatment to all individuals. We also know that we can offer an opportunity for patients in a much safer environment. I suspect that getting physicially harmed is only important to the individual being harmed. And, yes, I am highly concerned about the overall quality of care in low-cost centers.

You can sugar coat Istanbul all you want. I know a far different side of that country.

My apologies if I offended anyone. However, you never know what will happen from day to day in some countries.

[John P. Cole, MD]

check it out. this is just from 2017. https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/in...223800183.html

and this one from 2016: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_T...27état_attempt

I think Turkey is the hair transplant capital of the world. I am quite fond of Turkey. One seems to forget about India, which is also quite good with specific surgeons. I was supposed to participate in a conference on-line in Pakistan during the first week of March. It was canceled due to the threat of war with India, and the airport in Pakistan was shut down.

It isn't just Turkey. what is the focus with Turkey? Why would it bother you that we offer a safer market? Why would it bother you that some markets in this world are potentially unstable at any given moment? We know we can't treat everyone. We offer an option. Nothing more.

[xadiohead]

With all due respect, xadiohead, how much business have you conducted in Turkey? I went there over my Thanksgiving holiday to train a group of 50 surgeons on my own dime. These surgeons were from all over the world. I brought enough equipment to train 50 surgeons and then pack it out. Unfortunately, customs stopped my 20-year-old daughter with over 30k in instruments that were coming in and then out. They locked her up in customs jail overnight. They gave her no blanket. Only a mattress on the floor. For dinner, they offered her a cigarette, a cup of coffee, or a candy bar. She chose the candy bar. After I paid a $4000 fine, they released her nearly 24 hours later but seized all the instruments. I have been in and out of Turkey many times over the past four years setting up a training center and training surgeons. I have been very happy that with all my entries until two years ago when they seized but returned my instruments on my exit. Nothing bad has happened in terms of life and limb. I'm not hard on Turkey because it is home to many well-qualified surgeons and friends. It is still not the safest country and the customs people have an agenda at times. I have done a considerable amount of work to build up a clinic and help Turkey prosper from it. I can say that I will not return again. Nothing can be assured in Turkey. It is one of the most geopolitically corrupt countries in the world. I don't trust the political process there, nor the people. I do know there are some great surgeons there. There are also some dangerous surgeons there.

What we are focused on is something positive and not negative. We know that we can't offer treatment to all individuals. We also know that we can offer an opportunity for patients in a much safer environment. I suspect that getting physicially harmed is only important to the individual being harmed. And, yes, I am highly concerned about the overall quality of care in low-cost centers.

You can sugar coat Istanbul all you want. I know a far different side of that country.

My apologies if I offended anyone. However, you never know what will happen from day to day in some countries.

While your response mentions an unfortunate event with Turkey customs agents regarding your daughter & expensive equipment, it still does not back up your claim that those traveling need to worry about a government coup or suicide bombers. You are implying that people who choose to travel to Turkey for a hair transplant need to fear for their life.

Saying Turkey is one of the most geopolitically corrupt countries in the WORLD is quite the claim. According to transparency.org they were ranked #78 out of 180 countries in 2018 regards to least corrupt (102 are more corrupt). I don't doubt they are very corrupt, I just don't see the point in making outlandish claims.

I'm born and raised in the US but yes I have been to Turkey recently. I don't even care about Turkey but I don't like a Doctor coming on here posting dumb scare tactics to convince people not to go to Turkey for a hair transplant. As I mentioned there are many potential reasons to consider not going to Turkey for a hair transplant, but you should have ended your post before you started making crazy claims implying people fearing for their life.

[John P. Cole, MD]

I presume you have no friends nor relatives that encountered an issue. Like I said unless you or someone you know lost a life or limb, why would anyone be concerned? What is your focus on Turkey? I didn't mention Turkey. You did. Scan through the link I sent. It's one bombing after another. Yet this is not the point. The point is that we choose to offer surgery in a safer environment. One could go to Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, India, or Pakistan. We are in Greece for a reason. We feel safe there. Patients are welcome to go wherever they want. If anyone ever desires to know a good clinic in any country, I do my best to direct them in this way. I do all I can to direct patients.

My travel in Turkey is different. I get picked up by a private car. I get delivered to a hotel cleared by the US Secret Service which always tells me that travel in Turkey is dangerous. Yes, I have patients in the secret service. Then I go from Hotel to the clinic in a car and back. I don't travel about alone. You can sell Turkey all you want, but anytime you must walk through a metal detector to enter a hotel, you should have cause for concern.