Mousseigne, french doctor, on the road of donor regeneration

[Kiwi]

Hi guys,

glad to be here, on BTT forums!

It would probably be better if I addressed each of your questions & concerns in a distinct topic listed under the "Cutting Edge / Future Treatments" section... rather than in the section dedicated nominally to Dr Gho.

I'll open such a thread tomorrow or the day after, and I'll show you a suprise in it ... just a little "tease" before we eventually publish high standard documentation.


I look forward to exchanging interesting & exciting news with you, dear BTT members.


Best regards,
Mathieu.

The best possible surprise would be indisputable proof (cosmetic photographic) and a price tag cheaper than Dr Gho - if you can do that then welcome to our boards!!!

[Mathieu]

Kiwi, we do have indisputable proof of donor regeneration. However, as I warned you in my very first message, the documents I'll post today should serve only as a "teaser". You'll have to wait a little longer before we show you a whole documented process including recipient regrowth after transplantation*. Our intent, for now, is just to let you know that we're working on it, and that we can already observe steady donor regeneration. Which, in itself, isn't bad news, is it? :-)
As for the commercial side of this adventure, I think it's too early to disclose any reliable information. As soon as we feel that we've collected enough conclusive data, we will reassess the situation. Don't worry, it may happen sooner than you believe...



* my point is to avoid what Spencer recently called a "smoke and mirror" approach. We'd rather stick to a scientific method, so our claims always come backed up with various evidences (pictures, videos, statistics and other charts). We do not require you to adopt a religious mindset to undergo a medical procedure, nor do we expect you to be the one producing evidences for our claims.

[hellouser]

And, yes, it is about actual DONOR regeneration.

This sounds awesome! Finally another major player. Hopefully prices can come down from Ghos to make this affordable to new patients as $10-15,000 USD is far out of reach for many.

Thanks for the updates!

[clandestine]

Exciting to have you hear Mathieu! Looking forward to your participation on the forum.

[Tacola]

This is great news! If we do have another "player" then this might be affordable for more people. The price has to come down. I would imagine that if they lower the price, then more people would do the procedure. I feel that Gho is a bit to expensive. If another clinic would offer the same procedure, but at a lower and more suitable cost, then I would book it at this moment!

Looking forward to the "teaser"!

Where is the clinic located, and what kind of price range are we talking about?

[MrBlonde]

His prices are crazy high. €17,000 for 2500 grafts. He will more likely increase that price when it comes with donor regeneration.

I could get about 2600 grafts for 7k.

It might be an option to get your hairline done really well and dence packed first and take the hit on the donor area and then fill in the crown and other areas with this treatment when the price comes down in a few years.

Right now no matter what the results I would not consider or be able to afford it.

[caddarik79]

His prices are ridiculously high for FUE..

You can already forget about the prices going down, he is even more expensive then Gho, I have no trust in people able to ask that much money from people dealing with an already depressing issue like baldness...

i'm already laughing at the answer of Mathieu about the commercial aspects, LOL, of course it's not the right time to talk about, you first need to exist in the regenration market, but we know already that you won't bring the prices down, so I will keep it with Maastricht and Amsterdam...I prefer thei communication... and I think Gho will bring even more things in the coming years.

So even if I was enthusiastic at the beginning, now that I know mousseigne price for old FUE, I don't even want to know what the dude will ask for regeneration....keep your money guyz, you will be able to do two Gho sessions for One Mousseigne...I'm sure of it!!!

[Tacola]

His prices are crazy high. €17,000 for 2500 grafts. He will more likely increase that price when it comes with donor regeneration.

I could get about 2600 grafts for 7k.

It might be an option to get your hairline done really well and dence packed first and take the hit on the donor area and then fill in the crown and other areas with this treatment when the price comes down in a few years.

Right now no matter what the results I would not consider or be able to afford it.

Wow, that`s just crazy!

Well I guess it`s a good thing that more and more get into regeneration. For me, and most people, there is no chance to pay this amount of money. Then I rather cut my hair short and wait But either way, it`s nice if this guy is legit. That means that there are more and more doctors working on it. It`s just a matter of time before the price has to go down.

[caddarik79]

Yes hopefully there will be other doctors (americans, turkish, germans, belgians) who will come to that and hopefully some of them will bring the prices more democratic, but Mousseigne, regarding his FUE crazy disgusting prices, I would not even consider...

It will be good for rich people, but like you said, shave and move on and wait untill prices really go down... they are surfing on this wave now and have no pity for people suffering...they just want money, regarding his FUE prices, I guess new technique will be 30.000 euros for 1500 fu'k'ng regenerated grafts...let me laugh!!!!

I might be wrong, but I smell no crazy good news here.

[hellouser]

Here's something he's going to have to consider;

If his prices are higher than Gho's, I very much doubt anyone will go to him for a procedure whereas Gho has been around for a while and has been basically a proven treatment.

Markets don't allow you to come out with a 'me too' product at a higher price, he's going to have to offer either something better or the same for less, otherwise he's shooting himself in the foot.

The need for prices to come down is essential. Do that and you open the floodgates for a massive stream of clients. And no, $500 less won't cut it, its gotta be substantially less.

[The Alchemist]

His prices are crazy high. €17,000 for 2500 grafts. He will more likely increase that price when it comes with donor regeneration.

There is no justification for that price. Not sure how many patients are spending 17k for 2500 grafts, but, i can guarantee you it's not anywhere near the numbers that would sign up if the price were inline with what other surgeons are charging. For every one that he gets at that price, he's going to miss out on 50. You can ignore the market, but, it's not going to ignore you.

[hellouser]

There is no justification for that price. Not sure how many patients are spending 17k for 2500 grafts, but, i can guarantee you it's not anywhere near the numbers that would sign up if the price were inline with what other surgeons are charging. For every one that he gets at that price, he's going to miss out on 50. You can ignore the market, but, it's not going to ignore you.

Hit the nail on the head.

The market is HUGE, theres no shortage now or in the future for patients. Bring down the prices and you'll basically be doing men all over the world a massive favor. I've got some money already saved up for HST with Gho, but if we can get a better deal with regeneration, I won't hesitate for a second to go elsewhere.

[Tacola]

Maybe Mathieu should give a comment about the price? Even though it most likely will be too expensive for most people. Mathieu, a comment on this?

[FearTheLoss]

I think we should let them finish all their documentation and commercialize it before we jump to asking about the price already. Let them do one thing at a time for us.

[greatjob!]

You guys crack me up. You guys constantly complain about the lack of companies and doctors on the boards sharing information and then when one comes on here, he posts two comments saying he will post some information soon and before he does all you idiots jump on here and dismiss him before any information is posted. Good work...