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  1. #801
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    Iv dumped keratene, both the pills and topicals,
    I use RU now at 2%, i still have sides on RU - shrinkage remains i guess just gota accept ti now, weight gain is there but less than KAR, no brain fog and no fatigue which is awesome,
    Hair the verdict is still out

    I also started using neogenic, i also use topical cetirizine now, right now im going thro a shed, from what i dont know, but i notice neogenic really gets that shed going, sticking with this for now, will report in a few weeks

    Also have CB on the way from kane, will use 1% solution in KB,

    laters

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    I've used the Neogenic at launch for 3 months and not getting any results, much mention the amount of hair number that he claimed. Unfortunately not know anyone who has had results with it.

    Friend, I think you using so many products at the same time, if you have any result will be difficult to measure where it came from.

    Anyway good luck on your treatment.

    I think if someone is willing to lower the estrogen can try some Grapeseed Extract.

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    Cob - what sides did you have on KAR?

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    Sorry but this needs to be addressed.

    Cob; how much smaller is your penis since taking these medications? How severe is the shrinkage? Can you maintain an erection? How is your libido?

    Also, why do you refuse to discontinue using these meds if you're experiencing something as severe as penis shrinking?

    Cheers.

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    i dont wanna go bald?? i have decent hair and, my hair is a huge huge part of me, and im not in a relationship,
    Its not really shorter, maybe 0.2 - 0.3 shorter, its just thinner, so it shrinks in diameter

    lbido is lower , a lot lower with ru than it is with kar to be honest, for erections i use cialis, i havent had sex since i started using RU a week ago so i dunno till i try how bad it is

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryan555 View Post
    Cob - what sides did you have on KAR?
    Fatigue, brain fog minor, weight gain, loss of muscle, Shrinkage (penis)

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    I have news for you guys using RU - everything you put on your head goes into your bloodstream. I tried putting crushed finasteride on my head (mixed with WATER, not even a carrying agent) and it lowered my serum DHT almost as much as oral finasteride. Putting a powerful, gray market anti androgen into your body through your scalp is nuts for someone concerned about side effects from much milder meds like finasteride and keratene.

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    ryan; a person would be deluding themselves if they held the idea that RU does not go systemic.

    The reason I've experienced gyne sides on RU is because some amount goes into the bloodstream. This, is also why I use such a low dosage, 10mg, as for me it is tolerable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cob984 View Post
    i dont wanna go bald?? i have decent hair and, my hair is a huge huge part of me, and im not in a relationship,
    Its not really shorter, maybe 0.2 - 0.3 shorter, its just thinner, so it shrinks in diameter

    lbido is lower , a lot lower with ru than it is with kar to be honest, for erections i use cialis, i havent had sex since i started using RU a week ago so i dunno till i try how bad it is
    Bald ain't so bad brah.

    Better than dickbreak, IMHO. I shave my head, and my tackle is all in order for me to use with my gf.

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    Its not dickbreak dude, i can still get it up,

    And i am under no illusion that ru does not go systemic, thats why i also use a low dose
    But Kar was intolerable for me, not to mention my hair wasnt exactly improving on it

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