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Old 05-23-2012, 04:40 PM   #71
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what are you arguing then. We know from the only study measuring blood flow in balding areas that blood flow is decreased. We know men without hair loss have a significant more blood flow. So then what are you really arguing. And if it controls what dilates blood vessels then how is that any different then what i said. I understand one thing for sure. In my observations people with tight scalps usually also have awkward shaped heads and those people lose their hair. I have trained my self on this soo much that we could take 1000 people shave all their heads skin bald so i could not tell who was or wasn't balding and each time i would be able to tell who is going to or already has just based on the tightness of there scalp.
hair transplants work. Hair transplants work. Hair transplants work.
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Old 05-23-2012, 04:40 PM   #72
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A follicle grows hair for as long as it's genetically programmed to do. We know transplanted hair can grow 40 years or more (punch grafts started in the 1950s, and eyebrow/eye lash transplants in the 1930s). Increased blood flow from wounding shouldn't last 4, 5 or 6 decades..
And the results depend on technology, technique, and the skill of the surgeon/technicians--there are plenty of clinics that now perform consistent quality transplants with very high yield.
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Old 05-23-2012, 05:34 PM   #73
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Again if you expect me to believe that hairs are individually predisposed genetically to balding and at the top of the head somehow have this effect on the sides and lower back of the head do not than you are downright naive. Another note to consider is that hair transplants have not been successfully around for 50 year most people have to go back for numerous treatments I don't care how good they're done they don't last forever and have not been well-established to do so you are bringing out your theories with no credible results. Show me one patient just one that has had a hair transplant last even 10 years please show me one????? This is why they prescribe propecia and minoxidil for Patients who have had successful hair transplants and don't just assume that the transplants are going to work. You as formum readers, are so set in a lot of the pseudoscience that you don't realize there has been no studies to prove what you're saying cannot even consider alternative possibilities when there is no established science on the actual causes or preventative measures for balding you are being naïve you're being fooled you're being duped.
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Again if you expect me to believe that hairs are individually predisposed genetically to balding and at the top of the head somehow have this effect on the sides and lower back of the head do not than you are downright naive.
yes... that's why transplants work

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Another note to consider is that hair transplants have not been successfully around for 50 year most people have to go back for numerous treatments I don't care how good they're done they don't last forever and have not been well-established to do so you are bringing out your theories with no credible results. Show me one patient just one that has had a hair transplant last even 10 years please show me one?????
yes they have to come back every 5-10 years because their EXISTING DHT susceptible hair will continue to fall.... the donor hair that has been implanted won't fall out.

Are you seriously questioning the fact that SOME HAIR IS DHT RESISTANT AND SOME ARE NOT!?!?
Every hair loss forum has a "hair transplant" section. Check it out yourself...
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Old 05-23-2012, 07:49 PM   #75
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Forget everything you think you know about hair loss. If I told you that a tight scalp gets worse as you get older that it gets tight enough to render blood flow stationary would you think hair in that area would keep growing? If so plEase provide the readers an explanation to this phenomenon because if these dermal cells can grow and maintain life without blood then we have found a miracle of life seen no where else. Also if there is someone who has had a hair transplant 20 years ago and none of the transplanted hairs have stop growing please reveal your self.......
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Forget everything you think you know about hair loss. If I told you that a tight scalp gets worse as you get older that it gets tight enough to render blood flow stationary would you think hair in that area would keep growing?
^ BUT THIS IS NOT HAPPENING!!!! Castrates don't go bald. Why don't the scalp of castrates and those on DHT blockers don't go bald??


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Also if there is someone who has had a hair transplant 20 years ago and none of the transplanted hairs have stop growing please reveal your self.......
god damnit it's late at night but I would find it.

If I find you that person, would you then admit that your theory is false??
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Old 05-23-2012, 09:34 PM   #77
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Castrates don't go bald because DHT is produced through via sperm going through the prostate and if you don't have testicles and there's no sperm passing to the prostate no DHT and since DHT only causes baldness in a tight scalp then if you take one or the other out you won't experience balding. And yes showing me prrson one would at least make you sound less naive for even suggesting the idea however in the name of science I would demand much more than one to consider something scientifically proven.
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Old 05-23-2012, 10:28 PM   #78
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2020, why are you participating in this nonsense? All your evidence doesn't count and all his evidence doesn't exist. It's a no win situation, man. Pretty sure the guy's a transexual anyway.
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I wasn't going to get involved but this shit is ridiculous

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so you are bringing out your theories with no credible results
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are so set in a lot of the pseudoscience
Really you want to go there? Everything you say is bullshit theories and pseudoscience.


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Castrates don't go bald because DHT is produced through via sperm going through the prostate and if you don't have testicles and there's no sperm passing to the prostate no DHT
Really?? DHT is produced by sperm going through the prostate? You are obviously a moron who has no clue what you're talking about.

DHT is produced in the prostate, testes, hair follicles, and adrenal gland when testosterone is reduced by the enzyme 5a-reductase. It does this by breaking the 4,5 pi bond in testosterone reducing it to DHT. Sperm passing through the prostate has nothing to do with it.

Like 2020 said hair transplant patients take fin to protect their native hair from falling out they don't take it to protect the transplanted hair.

Your argument for scalp tightness is laughable. I started balding when I was very young around 15. I have always had a loose scalp and at 29 my scalp is just as loose now as it was when I was young. I can voluntarily move the skin on my head along with my ears back and forth a good couple of inches without my hands.

The main factor that determines how many grafts you can receive from a transplant is your scalp laxity, meaning there are tons of bald men with loose scalps.

here is an example: http://youtu.be/pyz2s_CtRf4
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Any time you see a transplant that looks "pluggy" it is at least 15 years old, usually older. There are plenty of people walking around with transplants from the 60s-80s. One guy posting on the Intro section of this forum yesterday has grafts from the 1970s.
Transplants grow and they keep growing--we knew this decades ago. The grafts start miniaturizing when the donor region does, because that's what follicles from that area of the scalp are genetically programmed to do. (In general, this donor thinning won't occur in significant amounts until old age.. if ever.)
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