The 50 Graft Test Procedure

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  • Arashi
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 3888

    Anyway, I'm done with you Didi. I gave you one last chance and you're still obviously just out to bash Gho. Good for you, enjoy it, I'm not going to reply to YOU anymore, I have better things to do. In fact, going to spend and enjoy my weekend with my girl here in the sun (like GC noted, I don't live in The MAIN part of the Netherlands, some other part on the other side of the world, that actually GETS sun, lol). I hope you'll have fun too Didi. Bye.

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    • didi
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2011
      • 1360

      Give us an update about New test, lets hope hasci will give perform another test
      They have to say agree cause they know Spence is watching this thread with 'interest'
      and he isnt happy with the way it was done so far, too many extractions, transections, questionable singles, no 3s...



      preassure is on HASCI


      i will give them ONE more chance

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        Originally posted by didi
        Give us an update
        Yeah, like you DESERVE to have me arrange that for you. Try to do something yourself for a change and try to add some VALUE to these forums yourself for a change.

        I'm really gone now, enjoy your weekend Didi, bye.

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        • didi
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2011
          • 1360

          Good luch arashi, enjoy ..and think abt us

          and dont forget if thing turn sour with HST you can always switch sides


          Nigam is still doubling for FREE

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          • cocacola
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 222

            We can still try to analyze what we have in case they dont want to do a second one. I mean maybe hasci wasnt aware of the "hardcoreness" of the analysis that people want on this forum, so they went with 200 grafts for james. Also they maybe tried to kill 2 birds with 1 stone. If they james likes the result in his temples from 200 grafts he might return as a future client.

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            • FearTheLoss
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1581

              Originally posted by Arashi
              Yeah, like you DESERVE to have me arrange that for you. Try to do something yourself for a change and try to add some VALUE to these forums yourself for a change.

              I'm really gone now, enjoy your weekend Didi, bye.


              Let's keep all the fighting aside and stick to facts and neutral analysis. Arashi we appreciate your communication with Kristel and let's try to get anther test done. WE CANNOT DROP THIS. I do think the pressure is on Gho to do another test for free and show it works, they need to understand that if they do this test properly and show it works..they are going to be getting 10x as much business from online forum members. LET'S GET THIS DONE. It is no skin off of their back to do another test. Spence is watching this thread with interest and knows this is actually a huge deal. That being said, this test could do a lot for the hair loss community as a whole and not just everyone on this forum.

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              • aim4hair
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 437

                Originally posted by didi
                They have to say agree cause they know Spence is watching this thread with 'interest' and he isnt happy with the way it was done so far
                Hahaha, i wonder if spence is watching your posts and laugh. You're funny, i gotta give you that, your posts are a good form of entertainment!

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1854

                  Originally posted by FearTheLoss

                  WE CANNOT DROP THIS. I do think the pressure is on Gho to do another test for free and show it works, they need to understand that if they do this test properly and show it works..they are going to be getting 10x as much business from online forum members.
                  Who says they that they are interested in "getting 10x as much business from online forum members"??

                  If they would be interested - they would simply do what all the others in this field do when they have problems to get patients - including a 50 grafts test which is documented as clear as the sky.

                  And if you're not interested to find it out YOURSELF how it works, or if you have big doubts in general, or if you think that an HST procedure will do more harm than good for you - NOBODY will stop you to buy a wig or to buy a normal hair transplant. Seriously - N O B O D Y. Because who cares ...

                  I mean seriously, all these guys who want to see "more proof" are, in fact, complete losers!
                  If you ask "why?" - here are the reasons:

                  Most guys need at least 2 or more procedures (HST or simply normal hair transplants) anyhow. Your risk, to find it out whether HST works or not, is just some bucks more than for a cheap hair transplant in Turkey or somewhere else - where you know almost IN ADVANCE what you will get, like JamesBald.

                  That means, for someone, who is REALLY interested to find it out - there is absolutely no reason why not try it out - YOURSELF, as I did and many others.

                  And just in case you guys didn't notice it - who are the doubters?
                  ALWAYS THE SAME LOSERS! Always the same!

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                  • didi
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1360

                    IM, you are missing the point

                    burden of proof is on HASCI, especailly after what happened in 200 grafts test, they agree on one thing then end up doing another, wtf

                    thats monkey business if you ask me, even stars like Dr Nigam wouldnt do such a thing



                    HASCI missed golden opportunity to shut everyones mouth but they just blew it.
                    IF I was CEO of HASCI and my technique is what they claim it is I would do 10 50 grafts for free and the rest would be a history, it would sell like hot cake

                    he cant deliver what he claims and that is the real problem, he claims 80% regeneration, now his biggest fanboy Arashi would be happy with 40%?...

                    I feel sorry for guys like him cause they paid top $$ beleiving they are getting 80%+ of regeneration, its like buying BMW 7 series and you get home and you realise its 3 series..

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                    • 534623
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1854

                      Originally posted by didi

                      I feel sorry for guys like him cause they paid top $$ beleiving they are getting 80%+ of regeneration, its like buying BMW 7 series and you get home and you realise its 3 series..
                      hmmm, can you tell me a little bit about my BMW 3 series ...

                      BEFORE HST extractions


                      3 days AFTER HST extractions


                      7 days AFTER HST extractions


                      hmmm, seems I bought BMW 10 series ...

                      By the way - as you can see, I have no problems at all to show all guys the ENTIRE extraction area - contrary to losers like Nigam or you, who has no say.

                      Oh, and here we have BMW 0 series ...



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                      • FearTheLoss
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1581

                        First of all, I'm in favor of Gho. I believe his technique works and I believe it is BY FAR the best transplant in the world today. Second off, I am just saying I would like to see a BTT sponsored (independent test) test done, and done right, to put the 10% of me that is skeptical at rest as well as some of the US transplant surgeons that openly ridicule and try to demean the procedure. I am planning on getting HST done this year as of now, but if they do, in fact, refuse another test or we can't get this proved with what we have it will give me second thoughts. In the long run, even if they were just doing this test to prove to me and to me alone that it works, they would still not be losing any money because what I pay for mine alone would pay for the clinics cost of both.

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                        • clarence
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2012
                          • 278

                          How old are you, didi?

                          I'm sorry, I realize you must get this all the time. We've got piled up a heap of claims (Rassman, Umar, the dutch clinics) which dispute the advantages of Dr. Gho's technique, but how many of them are providing any proof for their claims... other than the "A wonderful Korean researcher tried to bisect a follicle like this and failed to do it, therefore it is impossible to do so"-sort of reasoning? Can I throw out a claim, and the burden falls on Dr. Gho's to prove me wrong??

                          Ehrrm, anyway... thanks didi. Someone more "erudite" should see why HASCI is not necessarily interested in providing more evidence. The harm done by getting a HST, , even in the worst case scenario, is hardly significantly greater to a FUE procedure anywhere in the world. Successful documentation in a test like this would of course be awfully convenient, so that I would become convinced enough to get a bigger session (say, 1300 grafts or whatever the hell the maximum is). But now, with all this vagueness, I am thinking I should first just travel there for a smaller tryout procedure (say, 300 grafts) and then go later for bigger session, if I am still convinced.

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                          • Kiwi
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2011
                            • 1087

                            Originally posted by 534623
                            hmmm, can you tell me a little bit about my BMW 3 series ...

                            BEFORE HST extractions


                            3 days AFTER HST extractions


                            7 days AFTER HST extractions


                            hmmm, seems I bought BMW 10 series ...

                            By the way - as you can see, I have no problems at all to show all guys the ENTIRE extraction area - contrary to losers like Nigam or you, who has no say.

                            Oh, and here we have BMW 0 series ...



                            http://www2.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12643610.jpg
                            Nice pics.

                            Its true that Gho is raising the FUE gold standard. Its just great that more competition is coming on board - hopefully it means more more BMW 10 series photos and less BMW 0 series photos

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                            • didi
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2011
                              • 1360

                              I wonder
                              Why Gho dnt use .7 or .8 mm needle to extract 3 hair grafts so patients get better results?
                              Getting mostly singles cant be considered golden standard

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                              • clarence
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 278

                                Originally posted by Kiwi
                                Nice pics.

                                Its true that Gho is raising the FUE gold standard. Its just great that more competition is coming on board - hopefully it means more more BMW 10 series photos and less BMW 0 series photos
                                See, that's just what I was talking about. Claims without evidence.

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