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JimmyG
03-19-2009, 05:12 AM
Hi all,

Firstly a thank you to the creators and participants of this forum. I only discovered it a few hours ago, but from my experience running online communities and what I have seen here so far, this forum is about as high quality as you can get. To see so many professionals and experts from all over the world posting in the forum is quite amazing. :)

My story: I'm a 23 year old male, dark brown wavy hair, who has been experiencing thinning and recession at the hairline and temples since around 19 or so, progressing to a clear M hairline. Right now I'm somewhere approaching a Norwood 3.

It's become particularly bothersome in the past year or so - I've begun to notice the odd comment or two, am becoming VERY self-conscious about it, have a frustrating time trying to do my hair (and it *always* looks terrible without 'creative' styling), hate it when the wind blows strongly, don't want to get my hair wet in public, don't want anyone touching my hair etc.

It wouldn't be so obvious had I not been born with a high hairline, but unfortunately the combination is now very unaesthetic. The problem is clearly not going away, and is beginning to consume alot of mental energy, so it's time to do something about it. Thankfully, modern medicine gives me this option. :)

I clarified in another thread that there is at least one doctor here in Australia who specialises in HT procedures (Dr Woods). So that takes care of that in the slightly longer term, unless I still want to fly to the USA to have it done by someone else, for whatever conceivable reason.

I think the first step however is to prevent any more loss (something I wish I had done 2 years ago - in this case, 'wait and see' was not the best approach).

From what I have read, the starting point is a prescription for Propecia, but I'm not entirely sure who to speak to. General family doctor? Dermatologist?

Fortunately a close relative is a doctor, so I can get prescriptions for just about anything, but I want to know who would be the best to create a 'Master Plan' to do the initial consultation, track my progress, do follow-ups, manage my case when I get the HT procedure, etc. I want to do this in the correct way.

Basically my concern is that not all doctors are created equal, and I'm paranoid that a doctor I see might not be very knowledgable about treating hairloss, as opposed to one of the gurus like Dr Woods or the Drs listed on the IAHRS site, whom I unfortunately don't have access to locally.

On one hand I feel cursed for having to deal with this problem, but on the other hand, incredibly blessed that there are options to fix it, communities like this to help me, and I've caught it relatively early...

Thoughts?

P.S. Apologies for the long read!!

Cheers,

Jim

davesolazzo
03-19-2009, 02:26 PM
hey jim,

you seem pretty set on getting a transplant at some point down the road. but you really might never need one. you said you're about a norwood two heading towards a three. if you're not even a three yet i think you have a chance of doing well on propecia, especially since you have not been thinning for that long. im not sure that you really need a "master plan" for threating your hair loss at this point. just get yourself on propecia; you could see great results. if you dont see the results that you want after about a year and a half or so on propecia, then you can to start thinking about a transplant again.

JimmyG
03-19-2009, 03:58 PM
Thanks Dave,

If I could get away with just using Propecia, that would be great! For it to work well enough for me not to take other measures, I would have to see regrowth, because it's gotten to the point where I'm not happy at all. I wouldn't say I'm Norwood 2 (mature hairline). I probably passed that stage around the age of 21. The temple recession has been consistent over the past few years, and I'm now getting close to Norwood 3.

The pattern is quite similar to Jude Law's a few years ago (before his got really bad), with a persistent forlock and recession at the temples. It looks worse on me though because he had a much lower hairline to start with.

the B spot
03-19-2009, 06:31 PM
Best way to track your results is to take picture on the same day once a month.
Same lighting, same room, same everything.

Then you can look at your 1st pic and your 12th month pic--there will be a difference.

There is no real plan---quite honestly, most men experience the most response in the crown/donor//mid-scalp region----and not in the hairline.

However, it is certainly beneficial to stay on Propecia in order to keep as much hair as possible. Additionally, Propecia helps the individual hair follicle--by strengthening the hair and possibly increasing the shaft diameter.

If possible, it would be nice to see a pic or two of your current level of loss.

Take Care,
Jason

JimmyG
03-21-2009, 04:40 AM
Thanks for the info the B spot.

I had read about Propecia mostly improving everywhere but the temples (and it says so many times on their website), but I do think I have experienced thinning all over the top and sides over the past few years, pretty much everywhere except the back, so I'm sure it will be beneficial.

Where I can send you the photos? Do you have an Email address?

the B spot
03-21-2009, 10:15 AM
Sure Jimmy-- send them to my email @ moseley_j@comcast.net

If you like, I can post them here for you for comments from some other members.

With your permission of course.

Take Care,
Jason

Zao
03-21-2009, 10:34 AM
Hi Jimmy. I thought I would chime in since I began losing my hair very young also. Propecia has done a lot for me and in the first couple of years I did see growth which has held pretty well for about 11 years.

Here’s my story.
http://www.baldtruthtalk.com/showthread.php?t=435

You should definitely upload some pictures here. There are some great experts who will surly give you some good advice.

Chris

JimmyG
03-23-2009, 05:02 PM
Thanks for the story Chris. I'm glad to hear Propecia has worked so well. 11 years and counting is pretty good!

Jason, I've emailed you the photos.

Cheers,

Jim

the B spot
03-24-2009, 04:26 PM
Got them Jimmy!

JimmyG
03-24-2009, 05:26 PM
Just picked up my first box of Propecia from the chemist.

$79 for one 28 tablet box, one 1mg tablet to be taken daily.

365/28 = 13 boxes

X $79 = $1027/yr.

I hope it's worth it! :)

Speegs
03-25-2009, 03:26 PM
Just picked up my first box of Propecia from the chemist.

$79 for one 28 tablet box, one 1mg tablet to be taken daily.

365/28 = 13 boxes

X $79 = $1027/yr.

I hope it's worth it! :)Consider generic finasteride, much cheaper.
You can buy some generics on line, I bought 200 5mg generic finasteride for 150 bucks. The site was respectable and the source of the drugs from the UK.

mhoffma1
03-26-2009, 08:54 PM
Jimmy -- you're on the right track getting on the Propecia -- make sure you stay on it for a year before you make any conclusions about progress! The great thing about Propecia is that along with the fact that it will likely grow you some new hair, it will make a big difference in the fullness, thickness and strength of the hair you have, which effectively will give you more coverage straight away.

Speegs -- how long have you been on the generic UK finasteride -- are you seeing the same results as you did with Propecia?

Speegs
03-26-2009, 09:53 PM
Jimmy -- you're on the right track getting on the Propecia -- make sure you stay on it for a year before you make any conclusions about progress! The great thing about Propecia is that along with the fact that it will likely grow you some new hair, it will make a big difference in the fullness, thickness and strength of the hair you have, which effectively will give you more coverage straight away.

Speegs -- how long have you been on the generic UK finasteride -- are you seeing the same results as you did with Propecia?
Been using generics about two years, finasteride is finasteride so long as it comes from a Western manufacturer and pharmacy that can be contacted and varified on line, prices vary.

My back and mid scalp and vertex are all protected, knock on wood, my front remains the concentration of gradual thinning as has been the case my entire battle with hair loss.

So yes, i feel the generics have done about they can be expected too.

JimmyG
04-06-2009, 11:56 PM
Got them Jimmy!

Any thoughts?

mark-1
04-07-2009, 01:38 AM
Consider generic finasteride, much cheaper.
You can buy some generics on line, I bought 200 5mg generic finasteride for 150 bucks. The site was respectable and the source of the drugs from the UK.

where did you get them from?

Speegs
04-07-2009, 08:54 AM
where did you get them from?

There's an on line pharmacy called bestpharmacy that can be researched and is reputable, also check canadian sites.

JimmyG
04-28-2009, 06:28 PM
I'm using Proscar now, and cutting up the 5mg tablets into thirds.

It works out to $100 for 3 months, versus Propecia at $80 for 1 month.

Ragckr
04-29-2009, 05:16 AM
Im doing generic 5mg finasteride cut into 4ths.

Getting the perscription filled out at Walgreens for about 85 bucks, 30 pills. Cut into fourths, that makes about 4 months worth. Roughly 21.25 a month vs. the 80+ dollars a month on propecia.

Speegs
04-29-2009, 05:28 AM
Im doing generic 5mg finasteride cut into 4ths.

Getting the perscription filled out at Walgreens for about 85 bucks, 30 pills. Cut into fourths, that makes about 4 months worth. Roughly 21.25 a month vs. the 80+ dollars a month on propecia.Personally I'd only cut them in half, finasteride is not concentrated equally throughout the pill of a 5mg, its not as condensed as the 1mg propecia so its better to get a little more than 1mg than less than the needed amount.

mhoffma1
05-04-2009, 09:32 PM
Speegs - thanks so much for your info on the generic finasteride! I look forward to the money savings.

Best,
Michael

Speegs
05-05-2009, 04:37 AM
Speegs - thanks so much for your info on the generic finasteride! I look forward to the money savings.

Best,
Michael
No problem my friend, but please make sure you are choosey about whom you purchase from, someone that is in the US or Canada preferably and that will provide from Canad,UK and only from India IF they provide certificate of authenticity for the product.

Counterfeit finasteride is rare since it is actually cheap to manufacture and would be quite a bother to package placebos, sort of lie counterfeiting pennies, what would be the point?
But you still want the peace of mind that the product you bought is authentic, the best safety valve is a trustworthy pharmacy.

mhoffma1
05-06-2009, 07:52 PM
Right on, thanks. Yeah, the reason I asked to begin with is because a few years back I started getting Finasteride from a supplier in India, and about 6 months later I started noticing resumption of hair loss! Needless to say I was pissed and now I'm gun shy about anything except Propecia. I'm going to order from the Canadian firm. When it comes to online pharmaceuticals, you just can't beat Canada!

Thanks again,
Michael