Replicel

[ccmethinning]

I know what's been posted!

I've been keeping a close eye on Replicel, they have previously said results to be annouunced end of March 2012 and now it's middle of April 2012 for results, that's a delay.

I'm with all you guys wishing this to come to fruition i really do, really really do.

...just thinking why another 3 or 4 weeks? ...and so, then, in 3 or 4 weeks, we're in May.

Come on Replicel, shake the World up!

and one more point, if this treatment was to produce amazing results and was available tomorrow, who really has the money to get it done, on this forum who out there has a stash of cash waiting to get this done, really?
Some guys will need another few years to get the finance together, so in a way creating their own delay.

My credit union does unsecured personal loans up to 10k with little requirements. I could probably scrap together the rest from my bank accounts, that is based on a 15k price.

[lpenergy]

I know what's been posted!

I've been keeping a close eye on Replicel, they have previously said results to be annouunced end of March 2012 and now it's middle of April 2012 for results, that's a delay.

I'm with all you guys wishing this to come to fruition i really do, really really do.

...just thinking why another 3 or 4 weeks? ...and so, then, in 3 or 4 weeks, we're in May.

Come on Replicel, shake the World up!

and one more point, if this treatment was to produce amazing results and was available tomorrow, who really has the money to get it done, on this forum who out there has a stash of cash waiting to get this done, really?
Some guys will need another few years to get the finance together, so in a way creating their own delay.

I don't think results can just be thrown out there, as much as myself or the rest of the board would like. In their Feb 6 press briefing, they said they were on track for an April release. If there was any delay, it seems that there could have been an issues with getting the last two stragglers injected at the beginning.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/RepliCel-Provides-Quarterly-iw-2062683735.html?x=0

Also, somehow they lost 1 of the participants, as they initially planned on testing 20 people, then it got dropped to 19.

At the end of the day, a company needs to articulate and knowledgeable as much as possible about their result findings. Assuming it will be positive, this will be their day in the sun, and they don't want to come across as incompetent and saying stuff like "We don't know how, don't know why, but somehow it seemed to work and regrew hair."

By the way, did anyone notice that during that prior to mid-March, some of Replicel's scientist were available for Q&A stuff on their Facebook site. I could be wrong, but I believe that they went quiet so to speak once they got the initial results in their hands, and I am sure are working around the clock analyzing them, so they will probably not be very available up until the study release date.

[sausage]

and one more point, if this treatment was to produce amazing results and was available tomorrow, who really has the money to get it done, on this forum who out there has a stash of cash waiting to get this done, really?
Some guys will need another few years to get the finance together, so in a way creating their own delay.

Depends how much it is.

Some prices being banded around on here are crazy.

For what should be a one-off 30 minute treatment £10,000 - £20,000 is extortionate. (I think it would be a one-off treatment)?

If something came on the market tomorrow...a one-off, safe, easy treatment that guaranteed a full head of hair for the rest of my life I would throw all my money on it if thats what it cost, but I don't think Replicel will be able to offer that at any point?

[greatjob!]

I think like most things the price will be higher initially and then will come down over time, but I can't see it being much over the $10,000 price point. If it gets much higher than that it is going to significantly reduce their market exposure. Everyone likes to say they would pay anything for a treatment, but you can't pay want you don't have, its just not possible. Especially with today's financial uncertainty and difficulty securing any type of financing it is going to be hard for most people to pay much over $10,000 for this treatment. Banks aren’t giving out secured credit to many people for things like home mortgages, they aren't going to be readily handing out financing for things like this.

[Thinning@30]

and one more point, if this treatment was to produce amazing results and was available tomorrow, who really has the money to get it done, on this forum who out there has a stash of cash waiting to get this done, really? Some guys will need another few years to get the finance together, so in a way creating their own delay.

If the treatment is guaranteed to actually regrow all or most hair with zero or minimal side effects, the demand will be astronomical, and the patent holders will be able to charge whatever they want for it. Just think of all the rich and famous people with alopecia: John Travolta, David Geffen, Prince William, the list goes on (incidentally, this is one reason I am skeptical of the big pharma conspiracy theories, if a baldness cure exists but is being suppressed, why can't these people with all their money, connections, and resources get access to it? But I digress...). There really is no shortage of people with means who will pay outrageous prices for a hair loss cure. Of course, this says nothing about the nobodies like me. I would happily sell my house, take a 2nd job, forego vacations, and subsist on ramen noodles if it meant I could afford the guaranteed hair loss cure. Many people I know feel the same way.

When it comes to the hair loss cure I am actually more worried about availability and distribution than price. Whoever develops the cure better seriously ramp up the production to meet demand or there could be all kinds of shortages and delays.

[stillinHS1994]

Do you guys believe that (hypothetically speaking if this works) the cost of procedure will rely heavily on what stage norwood you are? In other words...is the cost going to dramatically change from a norwood 3 patient to a norwood 6 patient?

[greatjob!]

If the treatment is guaranteed to actually regrow all or most hair with zero or minimal side effects, the demand will be astronomical, and the patent holders will be able to charge whatever they want for it. Just think of all the rich and famous people with alopecia: John Travolta, David Geffen, Prince William, the list goes on (incidentally, this is one reason I am skeptical of the big pharma conspiracy theories, if a baldness cure exists but is being suppressed, why can't these people with all their money, connections, and resources get access to it? But I digress...). There really is no shortage of people with means who will pay outrageous prices for a hair loss cure. Of course, this says nothing about the nobodies like me. I would happily sell my house, take a 2nd job, forego vacations, and subsist on ramen noodles if it meant I could afford the guaranteed hair loss cure. Many people I know feel the same way.

When it comes to the hair loss cure I am actually more worried about availability and distribution than price. Whoever develops the cure better seriously ramp up the production to meet demand or there could be all kinds of shortages and delays.

There is no big pharmac conspiracy, unless you have your tin foil hat strapped on tight. The notion that there is some sort of board of directors who receive all of the profits and make all of the decisions for the hair loss industry is asinine. Johnson and Johnson make dick from Rogaine in the scope of their business and Merck the same. All these companies are in competition with one another, not cohorts.

[VictimOfDHT]

Anybody buying Replicel stock?

[jpm]

just bear in mind when talking about price that if someone says 'its likely to cost 15-20k' for example. They could be talking in $ which means it will be less in £ or €

[NotBelievingIt]

Do you guys believe that (hypothetically speaking if this works) the cost of procedure will rely heavily on what stage norwood you are? In other words...is the cost going to dramatically change from a norwood 3 patient to a norwood 6 patient?

Likely yes, because it will require multiple injections.

Its not like they're going to inject once on the top of your head and you just hope it spreads evenly across your scalp....

[sausage]

I would be shocked if Replicel charged more than £5000 for this 'cure' (if it ever comes to light). It would surely be a relatively quick treatment especially compared to other cosmetic surgeries and the doctor would need barely any skill to perform the treatment.

Yet what is concerning is that the demand would be astronomical and they would need to surely open thousands of clinics in the UK alone just to cope.

Although apparently only 1 in 10 people do something about their hair loss, but I would think that stat would change just a bit if a relatively affordable cure came out. If not then it will be a lot easier and quicker for me to get treatment.

The thing is even if they get approval for a treatment then they will take a long time opening clinics, employing doctors, and then when they start accepting patients there could be millions all at once after treatment which could add up to 1 year, 2 year or more waiting lists.

I think the more severe your hair is the quicker you should get treated.

[Kiwi]

I would be shocked if Replicel charged more than £5000 for this 'cure' (if it ever comes to light). It would surely be a relatively quick treatment especially compared to other cosmetic surgeries and the doctor would need barely any skill to perform the treatment.

Yet what is concerning is that the demand would be astronomical and they would need to surely open thousands of clinics in the UK alone just to cope.

Although apparently only 1 in 10 people do something about their hair loss, but I would think that stat would change just a bit if a relatively affordable cure came out. If not then it will be a lot easier and quicker for me to get treatment.

The thing is even if they get approval for a treatment then they will take a long time opening clinics, employing doctors, and then when they start accepting patients there could be millions all at once after treatment which could add up to 1 year, 2 year or more waiting lists.

I think the more severe your hair is the quicker you should get treated.

The day they get approval will be the day they open. You don't think they won't be preparing clinics concurrently? If they like money you can guarantee they have already paid for the leases

[sausage]

The day they get approval will be the day they open. You don't think they won't be preparing clinics concurrently? If they like money you can guarantee they have already paid for the leases

Yeah you would hope so + all the marketing etc etc etc. But still waiting lists could stupidly long. I do not want to be waiting over a year in line, after waiting years for a decent treatment to come along.

Maybe they should just sell the stuff in pharmacies that we can inject ourselves.

[gmonasco]

Yet what is concerning is that the demand would be astronomical and they would need to surely open thousands of clinics in the UK alone just to cope.

I don't know if that would be true, because:

a) Many men who experience hair loss don't consider it an important enough issue to spend thousands of dollars/pounds on.

b) Many of those who do consider hair loss important enough to seek treatment won't necessarily have the cash on hand to pay for it right away.

c) A good many men will likely adopt a "wait and see" attitude to find out how well the treatment works over time before taking the plunge themselves.

[sausage]

I don't know if that would be true, because:

a) Many men who experience hair loss don't consider it an important enough issue to spend thousands of dollars/pounds on.

b) Many of those who do consider hair loss important enough to seek treatment won't necessarily have the cash on hand to pay for it right away.

c) A good many men will likely adopt a "wait and see" attitude to find out how well the treatment works over time before taking the plunge themselves.

Well I hope your right. Less waiting for the ones who will pay up as soon as they say go.