Replicel

[2020]

http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01501617?term=histogen&rank=1

Study Start Date: December 2011
Estimated Study Completion Date: December 2012
Estimated Primary Completion Date: June 2012 (Final data collection date for primary outcome measure)

[UK_]

Thats just the 'official' completion date, not really an indication of when we'll see first results... the phase 1 completion date was well after they released the first results - they kept the trial going to see the effects of the treatment up to the 2 year period - so we could see results way before the December 2012 mark -mah right?

[ffar]

2020 I saw pictures from Histogen on their site. But it is 2 years old now.
If they would have another good results they would show it.
Aderans efect is 14(if i remember currectly) hairs per cm^2. Forgive me but it is notghing.
And yes... Replicel. We don't know anything. Will see on March?
I don't believe that they will show anything at all.

[Kiwi]

2020 I saw pictures from Histogen on their site. But it is 2 years old now.
If they would have another good results they would show it.
Aderans efect is 14(if i remember currectly) hairs per cm^2. Forgive me but it is notghing.
And yes... Replicel. We don't know anything. Will see on March?
I don't believe that they will show anything at all.

You dont know shit. You've been here since Jan and already sounding like you have some insights... Palease!

I've said it before and I'llsay it again. 14 hairs per s sq is better than zero. Anybody with actual hair loss that is already below that mark will no doubt agree

This is eapecially good if you get propecia side effects like I do.

[Kiwi]

To all the annoying noobs pointing out that Histogen said that they were going to post more info last year.... Dont forget that they lost a year being taken to court by some scum sucking company over a patent.

Angry? Then send an abusive email to the company that delayed your hair growth by a year. They should be slaughtered...

[ffar]

Kiwi i wasn't just a member of this borard. Sorry dude people without acout
are able to watch.
You says that 14 per cm^2 is better then nothig and I am saying
it is 7 graphs per cm^ so for me it is nothing.

[2020]

Kiwi i wasn't just a member of this borard. Sorry dude people without acout
are able to watch.
You says that 14 per cm^2 is better then nothig and I am saying
it is 7 graphs per cm^ so for me it is nothing.

this is why Histogen is being delayed:

http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2009/feb/24/1b24histogen223030-withdrawal-investors-lawsuit-hi/

As for Aderans, I'm sure they'll do better as time goes by. They have a $100+ million to play with and they can afford doing many studies at once. They'll nail it eventually...

[UK_]

That was a while back 2020, since then Histogen have acquired new board members, lost old ones and defeated SkinMedica - they also secured the funds to head into Phase 2 back in 2010.

Regardless Gail Naughton has really weathered some rough storms in the past, it irritates me when large corporations utilise dirty tricks and red tape to stifle trials into progressive treatments - that said it's a necessary evil in many respects.

[bananana]

There is a short, few days old interview with leading companies on askmen site.
Strangely dr. Cotsarelis is the only one that declined the interview (?), but anyways, here is a short text about histogen:

Naughton believes she and her team have identified the four growth factors that are most important for the cycling of a hair follicle and for stimulating growth: Follistatin, Noggin (seriously), Vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF), and Keratinocyte growth factor (KGF). So far, according to Histogen, patients have had statistically significant hair growth (including increases in hair count, hair thickness and hair density) at 12 weeks and at one year. Histogen aims to have a product on the market in Asia in 2015 and in the U.S. a year later. The actual procedure involves a one- or two-time set of injections in the scalp with a very fine 32-gauge needle, taking only several minutes rather than the hours required for a hair transplant.

I could swear I read a few months back in another interview it would be in asia maybe in 2013, not 2015.
But I may be wrong, with piles of info in my head who can say for sure - point is: I really hope they wont be prolonging the dates (much), otherwise they would lose credibility in a flash.
As far as I'm concerned - 2015 would be a charm if it happens then. I really hope they get more good results and soon.

[NeedHairASAP]

There is a short, few days old interview with leading companies on askmen site.
Strangely dr. Cotsarelis is the only one that declined the interview (?), but anyways, here is a short text about histogen:

Naughton believes she and her team have identified the four growth factors that are most important for the cycling of a hair follicle and for stimulating growth: Follistatin, Noggin (seriously), Vascular endothelial growth factor (VEGF), and Keratinocyte growth factor (KGF). So far, according to Histogen, patients have had statistically significant hair growth (including increases in hair count, hair thickness and hair density) at 12 weeks and at one year. Histogen aims to have a product on the market in Asia in 2015 and in the U.S. a year later. The actual procedure involves a one- or two-time set of injections in the scalp with a very fine 32-gauge needle, taking only several minutes rather than the hours required for a hair transplant.

I could swear I read a few months back in another interview it would be in asia maybe in 2013, not 2015.
But I may be wrong, with piles of info in my head who can say for sure - point is: I really hope they wont be prolonging the dates (much), otherwise they would lose credibility in a flash.
As far as I'm concerned - 2015 would be a charm if it happens then. I really hope they get more good results and soon.

Lol yep. They said 2013...I remember... So much for that


I used to be like kiwi, but theb i faced reality

[2020]

Lol yep. They said 2013...I remember... So much for that


I used to be like kiwi, but theb i faced reality

who said 2013? Histogen?

[bananana]

I think they did. But it seems highly unlikely (2013) since they're still testing it and all.
So 2015 sounds way more reasonable, but as I said - if they prolong that 99% of people will be pissed and wont believe another word they say - with a reason, not to mention the scientific circles, investors...

I strongly believe they wouldnt blurb these numbers out on a pure presumption, theres got to be more than that.
And I'm really curious why dr. Cotsarelis declined to be interviewed? Because they dont have any new findings or?
I'm pissed follica updates its site like once PER YEAR! Thats no way to treat the public. Histogen is also kinda slow, but at least it's once every 2 or 3 months.
Replicel is best here by far - they seem to be publishing all kinds of news pretty regularly.

I think most of us need It by 2015 and cant wait much longer. I'm diffusely thinning on top - I've done one HT, still waiting for proper results, I just couldnt wait any longer, people started noticing it.
Anyways, keeping my fingers crossed for 2015 - no delays.

[elvispresley]

hi guys, do we know if REPLICEL will publish the result at the end of march?
(is the famous date we are waiting since long time)

do they will publish for sure or maybe will be a fake?

thx a lot 4 the answer

[bananana]

well elvis, nobody knows will it be fake or not except replicel - now does it? we can speculate here for years, but its really all up to them.
And these specualtions are all pointless, none of us is an expert in biotechnology/hair replication. We should comment when new findings come not will they come or will they be fake or whateva...

My personal opinion is no way they would be faking a stuff like that and throwing millions down the toilet when the truth comes around. Their careers would be over, but as I said lets wait for some proper news rather than debate what would be if it would be...

[elvispresley]

well elvis, nobody knows will it be fake or not except replicel - now does it? we can speculate here for years, but its really all up to them.
And these specualtions are all pointless, none of us is an expert in biotechnology/hair replication. We should comment when new findings come not will they come or will they be fake or whateva...

My personal opinion is no way they would be faking a stuff like that and throwing millions down the toilet when the truth comes around. Their careers would be over, but as I said lets wait for some proper news rather than debate what would be if it would be...

ok thx.

but my question is: where is the source who said about that famous date we are waiting since long time... when they will show the results of the trial?

because until now i saw people talking but i never saw the source of this news

if someone knows let US know thx a lot