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    Quote Originally Posted by Louish View Post
    Everyone who tried LLLT knows it does norhing. Myself an many friends that of mine included.
    Did you try it long enough? I think at least 6 months is necessary.

    Going by 4 published scientific studies and hundreds of positive reviews on Amazon I think it must be doing something. The iRestore is on a 4.0 out of 5.0 rating now. Sure some reviews can be fake, but not 300 positive reviews.

    https://www.amazon.com/iRestore-Lase...ustomerReviews

    I have only tried it for about 3 months now, in my subjective experience it's doing something. I need more time though to truly evaluate the results and my pictures.

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    I did, send me the studies and Iíll tell you if they make sense, Or just send me the details I have acces to all published studies not availaible to the public for free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louish View Post
    I did, send me the studies and Iíll tell you if they make sense, Or just send me the details I have acces to all published studies not availaible to the public for free.
    The Growth of Human Scalp Hair Mediated by Visible Red Light Laser and LED Sources in Males
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24078483

    The growth of human scalp hair in females using visible red light laser and LED sources
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4265291/

    Low-Level Laser (Light) Therapy (LLLT) for treatment of hair loss
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3944668/

    iRestore study, not published (yet?).
    https://www.irestorelaser.com/blogs/...oven-grow-hair

    The effectiveness of treatments for androgenetic alopecia: A systematic review and meta-analysis.
    https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28396101

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    Lanzafame_et_al-2013-Lasers_in_Surgery_and_Medicine.compressed.pdf
    Here you have the first one in complete not just the preview you could only access. Plz use only for private use as this a copyright owned document.

    One of the few perks of being an academic scientist is we have access to everything published.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louish View Post
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    Here you have the first one in complete not just the preview you could only access. Plz use only for private us as this a copyright owned document.

    One of the few perks of being an academic scientist is we have access to everything published.
    Thanks for the offer but I also have access to all of them, thanks to our Russian friends (sci-hub).

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    OK well , What I can do is to check if this is actual good science. But I can tell you no one in real life has any results. For instance the study behind the use of Nizoral for hair loss is not good science. All it shows is Fina works and minox and keto are equally useless. Problem is doctors are not very good at understanding studies...most of the time. Only people in the research field themselves can really judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louish View Post
    OK well , What I can do is to check if this is actual good science.
    Let us know what you think. I think funding could be a problem as most of the studies are obviously funded by the manufacturers.

    That last systematic review I linked to put LLLT above minoxidil. I found that pretty interesting.

    But I can tell you no one in real life has any results.
    Out of curiosity, how do you explain the 300+ positive reviews for the iRestore on Amazon?

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    Never underestimate the power of placebo effect

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    I have a highend Theradome I will gladly sell to you if you really believe in it. No wires, super light and off course a good discount.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Louish View Post
    Never underestimate the power of placebo effect
    True, placebo effects can be strong. Some of those studies though were placebo controlled with a sham device.

    Quote Originally Posted by Louish View Post
    I have a highend Theradome I will gladly sell to you if you really believe in it. No wires, super light and off course a good discount.
    Thanks for the offer. Somehow Theradome seems to get worse reviews. Not sure why.

    I'm currently using iRestore. I was considering 'upgrading' to a 128 diodes device from China, if they're worth it. Can't find any reviews though.

    If you get to read those studies I linked to above I'll be interested in hearing your opinion.

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