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  • FearTheLoss
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 1589

    2015- Make or Break Future Treatments

    We welcome 2015 to be a very big year in the world of hair loss. While I remember like it was yesterday, everyone saying we'd have Aderans by now and Histogen as well, we still have a lot to look forward to. By this time next year, we will know if any of the following are promising enough treatments to make it to the market and improve our lives:

    1. Replicel (should have 6/12 months results to know what to expect) -I'm up in the air on these guys. Their science seems to be supported by some legitimate third party research papers, but their initial results were disappointing and they keep delaying. However, I think Spencer saw the 12 month results and seemed excited, but never informed us (maybe he wasn't allowed) and obviously something was seen for millions in investments and hopes Asian licensing to be on the table.

    2. Histogen (will know if they start phase IIb, if they do it will surely be released) -I've lost hope for them due to the fact they haven't partnered with anyone and I don't think they have the money needed to move to phase IIb at the start of 2015 like planned

    3. Bim (pending results this coming January) -my highest hopes for the next drug

    4. sm04554 (phase II study will be completed)

    5. CB (phase II study will be completed)- I don't have high hopes for it being lesser sides than fin/dut/ru

    6. Dr. Carlos Wesley's Pilofocus with ACell (should be completed by summer 2015, I have high hopes for great regeneration that will change the game, big time)

    7. clinical trials for PRP from numerous third party investigators- I think in coming years we could see drastic improvements in success rate with PRP therapies

    8. clinical trials for third parties on laser therapy- I think we may see some minimal benefit from it, nothing to shake a stick at or get excited over.

    9. Cots and follica making more discoveries that lead to absolutely nothing. -I've lost all hope in follica


    It's going to be a make or break year for a lot of treatments/cures in the pipeline guys..fingers crossed to 2015 finally bringing us some good news and a treatment to look forward to.

    What do you guys have the highest hopes for? I'm excited for Pilofocus and Bim!
  • Illusion
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2014
    • 500

    #2
    Nice post! It gives me hope to see all these possible future treatments lined up.

    I must say that I am really excited for Bim, mainly because the results of phase IIb will be out very soon. It feels like we can almost touch our first new FDA-approved treatment since a long time. I'm just hoping that it isn't going to be very expensive as I simply can't afford it at the moment to pay a couple of hunderd dollars a month for hair loss treatments.

    Here's to 2015 becoming a great year for us!

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    • FearTheLoss
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 1589

      #3
      Originally posted by Illusion
      Nice post! It gives me hope to see all these possible future treatments lined up.

      I must say that I am really excited for Bim, mainly because the results of phase IIb will be out very soon. It feels like we can almost touch our first new FDA-approved treatment since a long time. I'm just hoping that it isn't going to be very expensive as I simply can't afford it at the moment to pay a couple of hunderd dollars a month for hair loss treatments.

      Here's to 2015 becoming a great year for us!
      I can't wait for Bim as well, I hope the allergen buyout turns out to be because of this product and the rumors Joe and Spencer heard are true!

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      • It's2014ComeOnAlready
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2014
        • 584

        #4
        Terrific forecast of everything that's happening. It's obviously very positive in terms of new treatments over the next couple of years. I personally think Follica is going to surprise us all with a treatment as well sometime soon, but everyone's gone cold on them because we're not getting tid-bits of information. Bottom Line: BETTER DAYS ARE COMING, and SOON!

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        • It's2014ComeOnAlready
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2014
          • 584

          #5
          Originally posted by FearTheLoss
          I can't wait for Bim as well, I hope the allergen buyout turns out to be because of this product and the rumors Joe and Spencer heard are true!
          If the results are fantastic...then it will be understood that that's the reason they were bought out. Right now it's speculation, but the possibility is very exciting.

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          • efedrez
            Senior Member
            • May 2013
            • 168

            #6
            Originally posted by FearTheLoss
            We welcome 2015 to be a very big year in the world of hair loss. While I remember like it was yesterday, everyone saying we'd have Aderans by now and Histogen as well, we still have a lot to look forward to. By this time next year, we will know if any of the following are promising enough treatments to make it to the market and improve our lives:

            1. Replicel (should have 6/12 months results to know what to expect) -I'm up in the air on these guys. Their science seems to be supported by some legitimate third party research papers, but their initial results were disappointing and they keep delaying. However, I think Spencer saw the 12 month results and seemed excited, but never informed us (maybe he wasn't allowed) and obviously something was seen for millions in investments and hopes Asian licensing to be on the table.

            2. Histogen (will know if they start phase IIb, if they do it will surely be released) -I've lost hope for them due to the fact they haven't partnered with anyone and I don't think they have the money needed to move to phase IIb at the start of 2015 like planned

            3. Bim (pending results this coming January) -my highest hopes for the next drug

            4. sm04554 (phase II study will be completed)

            5. CB (phase II study will be completed)- I don't have high hopes for it being lesser sides than fin/dut/ru

            6. Dr. Carlos Wesley's Pilofocus with ACell (should be completed by summer 2015, I have high hopes for great regeneration that will change the game, big time)

            7. clinical trials for PRP from numerous third party investigators- I think in coming years we could see drastic improvements in success rate with PRP therapies

            8. clinical trials for third parties on laser therapy- I think we may see some minimal benefit from it, nothing to shake a stick at or get excited over.

            9. Cots and follica making more discoveries that lead to absolutely nothing. -I've lost all hope in follica


            It's going to be a make or break year for a lot of treatments/cures in the pipeline guys..fingers crossed to 2015 finally bringing us some good news and a treatment to look forward to.

            What do you guys have the highest hopes for? I'm excited for Pilofocus and Bim!
            Great summary! Thanks

            Where can I find more information about BIM?

            Thanks!

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            • KJ1982
              Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 54

              #7
              Originally posted by FearTheLoss
              I can't wait for Bim as well, I hope the allergen buyout turns out to be because of this product and the rumors Joe and Spencer heard are true!
              What are the rumours that Joe and Spencer have heard? I'd try to find out for myself but I've missed a few of the shows and so it may take an age to find...

              KJ.

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              • rdawg
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2012
                • 1019

                #8
                Originally posted by KJ1982
                What are the rumours that Joe and Spencer have heard? I'd try to find out for myself but I've missed a few of the shows and so it may take an age to find...

                KJ.
                essentially joe and spencer heard the trials were going really well.

                Im not sure how much value you can put on that opinion, but it was an interesting remark from them.

                nothing but positive speculation right now, we'll find out the actual results within a few weeks.

                really hoping BIM pans out, would love a product next christmas or at least within 2 years!

                other than that, CB results will be interesting and Histogen looks to finally be moving forward again in Japan.

                definitely some positives on the horizon, will be an interesting year! there's no 100% cure coming but damnit I would love another growth product like BIM that can actually help a bit!

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                • LMS
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 226

                  #9
                  I still have high hopes for histogen. Their results were great IMO for one treatment. The AAPE study seems to support histogen's growth factor angle. If only they got more funding.

                  Overall though I think progress is being made and we have lots to look forward to!

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                  • KJ1982
                    Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 54

                    #10
                    Originally posted by rdawg
                    essentially joe and spencer heard the trials were going really well.

                    Im not sure how much value you can put on that opinion, but it was an interesting remark from them.

                    nothing but positive speculation right now, we'll find out the actual results within a few weeks.

                    really hoping BIM pans out, would love a product next christmas or at least within 2 years!

                    other than that, CB results will be interesting and Histogen looks to finally be moving forward again in Japan.

                    definitely some positives on the horizon, will be an interesting year! there's no 100% cure coming but damnit I would love another growth product like BIM that can actually help a bit!
                    Thank you, rdawg. Your reply's appreciated.

                    It's interesting to hear that Spencer seems to think that the trials are going well; I can see how, given his connections and reputation, he may have heard some inside information with regards to the trials.

                    Joe, on the other hand, I'm not so sure. Having said that, I can't say I know very much about him so I can't form a conclusive opinion with regards to his background...

                    Whatever the case may be, it's certainly interesting and an exciting time to think that, should things have been going well, we may have another treatment for MPB in the near future.

                    I've recently been considering beginning finasteride to combat my accelerating recession so the possibility that, should this prove successful as a treatment, I may not need it for long is certainly some comfort.

                    Perhaps I should hold fire until the trial results are heard before making a choice with regards to finasteride?

                    KJ.

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                    • rdawg
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 1019

                      #11
                      Originally posted by KJ1982
                      Thank you, rdawg. Your reply's appreciated.

                      It's interesting to hear that Spencer seems to think that the trials are going well; I can see how, given his connections and reputation, he may have heard some inside information with regards to the trials.

                      Joe, on the other hand, I'm not so sure. Having said that, I can't say I know very much about him so I can't form a conclusive opinion with regards to his background...

                      Whatever the case may be, it's certainly interesting and an exciting time to think that, should things have been going well, we may have another treatment for MPB in the near future.

                      I've recently been considering beginning finasteride to combat my accelerating recession so the possibility that, should this prove successful as a treatment, I may not need it for long is certainly some comfort.

                      Perhaps I should hold fire until the trial results are heard before making a choice with regards to finasteride?

                      KJ.
                      no I would get on fin or a DHT inhibitor ASAP, BIM is similar to minoxidil in that it is simply a growth stimulator but will not stop agressive loss

                      fin will stabalise your hairloss, they go hand in hand essentially, one stabalizes the loss, the other can give you growth(albeit minoxidil is extremely weak which is why Bim is a more exciting prospect!!)

                      i'm personally on dutasteride as fin was even too weak for me.

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                      • KJ1982
                        Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 54

                        #12
                        Originally posted by rdawg
                        no I would get on fin or a DHT inhibitor ASAP, BIM is similar to minoxidil in that it is simply a growth stimulator but will not stop agressive loss

                        fin will stabalise your hairloss, they go hand in hand essentially, one stabalizes the loss, the other can give you growth(albeit minoxidil is extremely weak which is why Bim is a more exciting prospect!!)

                        i'm personally on dutasteride as fin was even too weak for me.
                        Again, thank you for the reply, rdawg.

                        I'll take what you've said into consideration, certainly. Along my hairline is where my most agressive loss is found. My crown is thinning but can easily be covered with Toppik fibres so that's not so much a concern. However, my hairline is thinning to the degree that Toppik is beginning to look chalky and failing to conceal the worst areas very well at all.

                        Thankfully, my hairline is still present in the form of very fine vellus hairs so I'm hoping that finasteride will save those miniaturised hairs and restore my hairline.

                        KJ.

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                        • Follicle Island
                          Junior Member
                          • Dec 2014
                          • 20

                          #13
                          Wasn't 2013 or 2014 the 'make or break year' too ? It seems this happens every year and it always ends the same way: Disappointing. We've been getting teased about a baldness cure since the early 2000's and yet fifteen years later and still nothing. Every potential product is either too weak or just doesn't end up working. I hope RepliCel and Histogen get their product out as Japan has lined them up for an early launch. This 'DHT inhibiting era' needs to come to an end.

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                          • Hairismylife
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2012
                            • 383

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Follicle Island
                            Wasn't 2013 or 2014 the 'make or break year' too ? It seems this happens every year and it always ends the same way: Disappointing. We've been getting teased about a baldness cure since the early 2000's and yet fifteen years later and still nothing. Every potential product is either too weak or just doesn't end up working. I hope RepliCel and Histogen get their product out as Japan has lined them up for an early launch. This 'DHT inhibiting era' needs to come to an end.
                            I dont understand. If other factors besides DHT contribute to hairloss, then why ppl taking fin or other stuff that combat DHT can have maintenance or regrowth?

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                            • Follicle Island
                              Junior Member
                              • Dec 2014
                              • 20

                              #15
                              I'm not saying that blocking DHT doesn't work, but there's a lot more to hair loss than just DHT, therefore there's a lot of other ways to save our hair without affecting our hormones.

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