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  • tedwuji
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2014
    • 478

    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
    I was just rereading the research report that's been discussed on here many times, the same one Dr. Wesley posted, titled "Hair Regeneration from Transected Follicles in Duplicative Surgery: Rate of Success and Cell Populations Involved" and I realized that the two portions of the follicle that they implanted in balding scalp had growth rates of 69% and 73% while the entire follicle had a growth rate of 79% at 12 months. That's damn near donor doubling, I bet this the study Nigam was trying to replicate using FUE which is much much harder than it would be with Pilofocus, and because Nigam is a fake doctor he couldn't achieve anything. I think, it may be harder to do every day in practice, but we could see close to 100% regeneration in surgery when this technique is perfected. Maybe it won't be in the next few years, but I fully believe it's possible based on this study as well as some of the studies this one references. I was reading something Dr. Cole's representative 35yrsafter posted about him believing we will see 90-100% regeneration in the next few years, he must be basing that off of this study as well: very impressive, very exciting potential. To be honest, I don't know how there wouldn't be regeneration, I wonder if it was accidentally seen by Dr. Wesley originally because he was cutting at various depths in the same manner that this study essentially could be splitting the follicle horizontally out of the body.
    ive heard a lot of studies claiming donor doubling. Acell back in 2011 and etc.

    Would be great if he could but if not, lowered transection rates and elimination of significant scarring is worth every minute of attention this technique receives, in my opinion.

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    • hellouser
      Senior Member
      • May 2012
      • 4423

      Originally posted by barfacan
      Relax, it wont be until 2017-2018, if it happens at all (Lot's of things can go wrong).

      Enjoy your youth while you have it.
      There's no YOUTH to be enjoyed while bald or balding.

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      • joachim
        Senior Member
        • May 2014
        • 562

        Originally posted by FearTheLoss
        I was just rereading the research report that's been discussed on here many times, the same one Dr. Wesley posted, titled "Hair Regeneration from Transected Follicles in Duplicative Surgery: Rate of Success and Cell Populations Involved" and I realized that the two portions of the follicle that they implanted in balding scalp had growth rates of 69% and 73% while the entire follicle had a growth rate of 79% at 12 months. That's damn near donor doubling, I bet this the study Nigam was trying to replicate using FUE which is much much harder than it would be with Pilofocus, and because Nigam is a fake doctor he couldn't achieve anything. I think, it may be harder to do every day in practice, but we could see close to 100% regeneration in surgery when this technique is perfected. Maybe it won't be in the next few years, but I fully believe it's possible based on this study as well as some of the studies this one references. I was reading something Dr. Cole's representative 35yrsafter posted about him believing we will see 90-100% regeneration in the next few years, he must be basing that off of this study as well: very impressive, very exciting potential. To be honest, I don't know how there wouldn't be regeneration, I wonder if it was accidentally seen by Dr. Wesley originally because he was cutting at various depths in the same manner that this study essentially could be splitting the follicle horizontally out of the body.
        but what about hair diameter? nobody dares talking about that. if i remember correctly, the resulted hair diameter in both halves in these studies was always 30 to 40% smaller. 30% decrease in hair diameter means 50% less cross section, thus 50% less volume. the hair then looks much thinner, and is not really useful. if you consider 70 to 80% success rate compared to 90% normal FUE success rate, then the regenerated hairs gives even less total hair volume than FUE.
        thus, if the regenerated follicle halves don't have nearly the same original diameter, then it's practically useless. so i think, donor regeneration will always be pointless, even with pilofocus. (unless Acell can increase the DP cell population to keep the hair diameter constant)

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        • tedwuji
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2014
          • 478

          Originally posted by joachim
          but what about hair diameter? nobody dares talking about that. if i remember correctly, the resulted hair diameter in both halves in these studies was always 30 to 40% smaller. 30% decrease in hair diameter means 50% less cross section, thus 50% less volume. the hair then looks much thinner, and is not really useful. if you consider 70 to 80% success rate compared to 90% normal FUE success rate, then the regenerated hairs gives even less total hair volume than FUE.
          thus, if the regenerated follicle halves don't have nearly the same original diameter, then it's practically useless. so i think, donor regeneration will always be pointless, even with pilofocus. (unless Acell can increase the DP cell population to keep the hair diameter constant)
          Yeah some of this appears to be simply splitting a follicle and both halves survive but are essentially 50% original size. this is splitting, not duplicating.

          but again i say: lower transection rates and elimination of scarring. these two factors alone will bring Wesley my money.

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          • FearTheLoss
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 1589

            Originally posted by joachim
            but what about hair diameter? nobody dares talking about that. if i remember correctly, the resulted hair diameter in both halves in these studies was always 30 to 40% smaller. 30% decrease in hair diameter means 50% less cross section, thus 50% less volume. the hair then looks much thinner, and is not really useful. if you consider 70 to 80% success rate compared to 90% normal FUE success rate, then the regenerated hairs gives even less total hair volume than FUE.
            thus, if the regenerated follicle halves don't have nearly the same original diameter, then it's practically useless. so i think, donor regeneration will always be pointless, even with pilofocus. (unless Acell can increase the DP cell population to keep the hair diameter constant)

            No in this study it the hair caliber in each half was 96% of that of the entire follicle that was intact..so basically no notable difference

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            • tedwuji
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2014
              • 478

              Originally posted by FearTheLoss
              No in this study it the hair caliber in each half was 96% of that of the entire follicle that was intact..so basically no notable difference
              we'll see i guess. heard this with Acell tho.

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              • FearTheLoss
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 1589

                Originally posted by tedwuji
                we'll see i guess. heard this with Acell tho.
                When did acell ever get any documented results like this? in a large, controlled, published study?

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                • tedwuji
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2014
                  • 478

                  Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                  When did acell ever get any documented results like this? in a large, controlled, published study?
                  can u link referenced study plz

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                  • FearTheLoss
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 1589

                    Duplicative surgery might represent a successful alternative for hair transplantation, because both portions are capable of regenerating a healthy hair. Moreover, our results suggest the possible presence of stem cells in both halves of the follicle.

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                    • tedwuji
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2014
                      • 478

                      Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                      anyway i can review this study without paying for membership privileges? though i'm not sure how impressive it can be considering N=28.

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                      • lacazette
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2015
                        • 396

                        It would be cool if one of his few patient could come here to give us his impressions and feelings about the procedure
                        I'm sure there's one of them who already checks balding forums ^^

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                        • Replicel55
                          Junior Member
                          • Jun 2015
                          • 10

                          Where is pilofocus today? Is it on market?

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                          • tedwuji
                            Senior Member
                            • Jun 2014
                            • 478

                            Originally posted by Replicel55
                            Where is pilofocus today? Is it on market?
                            lol....come on man, dont be THAT GUY.

                            did u read any of this thread?

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                            • JayM
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2015
                              • 411

                              Originally posted by tedwuji
                              lol....come on man, dont be THAT GUY.

                              did u read any of this thread?
                              This. You only have to go back like a page to find out what's happening. But no the first trials are beginning hopefully by the end of this month.

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4423

                                Originally posted by JayM
                                This. You only have to go back like a page to find out what's happening. But no the first trials are beginning hopefully by the end of this month.
                                They will be delayed for whatever reasons. You can bet on it.

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