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  • Javert
    Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 99

    Originally posted by Artista
    Ill be calling-in to the Live show Recidive.
    We will definitely be talking over Pilofocus as well as something else.

    Speaking here on the Acell topic, we all must REALIZE that Acell is STILL in its mid-stages of research and development. Overall it has been doing some great things in medical science. For instance, our Military Veterans injured in previous wars have been HELPED by the use of Acell applications.
    BUT, Its application and trials to hair loss treatment is RELATIVELY still in the BEGINNING stages of development.
    In other words, one cannot assume that there will NOT be medical advancements concerning Acell applications to hair regeneration.
    As Thomas Edison explained about his own invention-
    "I didn't fail. I just found 2,000 ways not to make a light-bulb;I only needed to find one way to make it work".... And he DID.

    Someone like Dr Wesley is trying out an application of Acell in a completely DIFFERENT way that has been done so far.
    His new-wave in Pilofocus may or may not make a huge change in Acell regen' usage.
    No one knows as yet what the outcome WILL be but those of us that have seen his preliminary testings phases were very impressed!!!

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    • Joker
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 123

      I must admit that I've been very disappointed by Dr. Wesley's slow progress and recent statements. It is rather cruel to log in to a forum, proclaim that news is coming, and then not divulge the nature of the news or the date anyone can expect to receive it. Is progress good? Is it bad? From Dr. Wesley's statement, and from the fact that the commercialization of this technology is already a couple years behind schedule, I can't tell.

      I'm young, I'm frustrated and I've been let down by literally every single treatment for the past 7 years. I thought - at the very least - a scarless procedure would have been on the market at this point to help me get on with my life. Now I question whether Pilofocus will ever come to fruition. I would not be surprised in the least if Dr. Wesley - like all other researchers in this field - now realizes that certain technical and regulatory hurdles will prevent him from offering this to actual patients for another several years. I just want answers. I would gladly enroll in a study to get them. But Dr. Wesley does not seem interested in conducting the type of study that we need. And that's unfortunate because he's really the only hope we have of a credible doctor researching better treatments for the near-term.

      One question I have about Dr. Wesley's technique is why he thinks Dr. Cooley's work is applicable. Dr. Cooley transected follicles by excising the top portion of the follicle, leaving the bottom portion intact, and packing the wound with ACell. But Dr. Wesley is extracting the bottom portion - i.e. the most important part - of the follicle and leaving only the top portion intact. This seems like the exact opposite approach. Further, it is not clear that the transected follicles extracted by Dr. Cooley ever regrew. At best, Dr. Cooley prevented the destruction of the donor follicles, but he never created any follicles anew.

      Sorry for the rant. Thanks, Artista, for at least doing your best to try to help us get some more information.

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      • Hicks
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 291

        ^ ^ you mean Dr. Cole?

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        • Joker
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 123

          Nope, I mean Dr. Cooley.

          Dr. Cole's method was similar (a shallow FUE extraction + ACell). But Dr. Cole, in spite of his claims on this and other forums, and in spite of his phenomenal FUE results, has never shown any evidence of true regeneration in the donor or recipient area.

          It is also worth noting that Dr. Cooley's study never showed a control for transection without ACell. It is possible that transecting follicles without ACell leads to the exact same "regrowth" result.

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          • Joker
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 123

            One other question I have is whether Dr. Wesley can control the angle of hair growth when he inserts only the bulb of the extracted hair follicle into a recipient site.

            Alas, so many questions. Looks like it'll be a long wait.

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4423

              Originally posted by Joker
              I must admit that I've been very disappointed by Dr. Wesley's slow progress and recent statements. It is rather cruel to log in to a forum, proclaim that news is coming, and then not divulge the nature of the news or the date anyone can expect to receive it. Is progress good? Is it bad? From Dr. Wesley's statement, and from the fact that the commercialization of this technology is already a couple years behind schedule, I can't tell.
              I've got similar feelings, it's as if we're being mocked with these empty promises. All this hype and build up, toying with our emotions for so long.... and everything just keeps getting pushed back and back and back... without explanation.

              Most of these major researchers/biotechs have given false hope;

              - Cotsarelis said on national news 'in two to three years'
              - Lauster's team said its possible within 5 years and plans for human clinical trials were already under way
              - Jahoda thought it'd be 5 years 30 years ago and laughed at himself when he said this
              - Wesley has failed to deliever on the timelines
              - Histogen keeps getting stalled

              At some point though, someone needs to own up.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4423

                Originally posted by Artista
                Ill be calling-in to the Live show Recidive.
                We will definitely be talking over Pilofocus as well as something else.

                Speaking here on the Acell topic, we all must REALIZE that Acell is STILL in its mid-stages of research and development. Overall it has been doing some great things in medical science. For instance, our Military Veterans injured in previous wars have been HELPED by the use of Acell applications.
                BUT, Its application and trials to hair loss treatment is RELATIVELY still in the BEGINNING stages of development.
                In other words, one cannot assume that there will NOT be medical advancements concerning Acell applications to hair regeneration.
                As Thomas Edison explained about his own invention-
                "I didn't fail. I just found 2,000 ways not to make a light-bulb;I only needed to find one way to make it work".... And he DID.

                Someone like Dr Wesley is trying out an application of Acell in a completely DIFFERENT way that has been done so far.
                His new-wave in Pilofocus may or may not make a huge change in Acell regen' usage.
                No one knows as yet what the outcome WILL be but those of us that have seen his preliminary testings phases were very impressed!!!
                We've heard a lot of hard talk but not a whole lot of follow through for a long time...

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                • Hairismylife
                  Senior Member
                  • Jun 2012
                  • 383

                  Dr Wesley, I really hope that you can give us a more concrete timeframe about the progress. I know maybe you are busy but we, being hairloss sufferer, are already deeply distressed, but you still keep us in the dark. Can't you have some sympathy?

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                  • Recidive
                    Member
                    • Sep 2014
                    • 56

                    Ok...tired...when is Spencer's next program?

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                    • Artista
                      Senior Member
                      • Apr 2010
                      • 2105

                      Hellouser, Nothing in life is ever instantaneous. 'Patience is TRULY a VIRTUE' my friend.
                      Spencer has talked on the Live show last night about his recent Skype conversation with Dr Wesley .
                      Now, Dr Wesley has yet to contact me as well but I dont take it personal nor am I frustrated.
                      'Things take TIME' we all know that especially when it comes to health and safety. IN TIME he will call me of my phase testing time frame..Untill then,,as always, I will LIVE MY LIFE. (just as you should bro)
                      Stay positive.

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                      • joachim
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2014
                        • 562

                        nah, being strong and positive and patient yadda yadda yadda... yes, that's truely the key in the baldness game :-% what a fu**ed up situation

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4423

                          Originally posted by Artista
                          Hellouser, Nothing in life is ever instantaneous. 'Patience is TRULY a VIRTUE' my friend.
                          Spencer has talked on the Live show last night about his recent Skype conversation with Dr Wesley .
                          Now, Dr Wesley has yet to contact me as well but I dont take it personal nor am I frustrated.
                          'Things take TIME' we all know that especially when it comes to health and safety. IN TIME he will call me of my phase testing time frame..Untill then,,as always, I will LIVE MY LIFE. (just as you should bro)
                          Stay positive.
                          If I expected instant anything I would have been making my comments many years ago... Pilofocus has been delayed by AT LEAST a year; no explanation for that either.

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                          • Artista
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 2105

                            Wait a sec' Hellouser ,
                            There was NEVER an absolute date set for the new and improved Pilofocus' method, so your statement that
                            "Pilofocus has been delayed by AT LEAST a year..." is not correct at all.
                            I can understand that some forum members felt as you did, but honestly, there was NEVER a release date set.
                            Look back on all of the conversations made by me, Spencer and Dr Wesley.
                            It was mentioned that phase testing might POSSIBLY be finished at some point but it was only speculation.
                            Since then Dr Wesley had decided to 'fine-tune' his endoscopic tools...and he did.
                            If I heard Spencer correctly during the Live show, Dr Wesley has now restarted the phase testing..I will verify that soon.

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                            • FearTheLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 1589

                              Originally posted by Artista
                              Wait a sec' Hellouser ,
                              There was NEVER an absolute date set for the new and improved Pilofocus' method, so your statement that
                              "Pilofocus has been delayed by AT LEAST a year..." is not correct at all.
                              I can understand that some forum members felt as you did, but honestly, there was NEVER a release date set.
                              Look back on all of the conversations made by me, Spencer and Dr Wesley.
                              It was mentioned that phase testing might POSSIBLY be finished at some point but it was only speculation.
                              Since then Dr Wesley had decided to 'fine-tune' his endoscopic tools...and he did.
                              If I heard Spencer correctly during the Live show, Dr Wesley has now restarted the phase testing..I will verify that soon.
                              where is the interview posted?

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                              • Artista
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 2105

                                Hi Fear' Spencer talks of it on his latest Live show Ep.111 this past Tuesday evening ,,it isn't available on podcast yet..Give it a few days.

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