8th World Congress For Hair Research - Korea (2014)

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  • HairBane
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 300

    #16
    Originally posted by Tenma
    Yeah is kind of a mystery replicel. i prefer them restarting trials if they have to rather than continuing with their current protocol and achieve disappointing results like aderans
    I think with replicel's current work, the best we can hope for is that they improve efficacy in their dose escalating trials, maybe getting to around 20% regrowth or something. One thing that would be great is if the dermal sheath cup cells they use migrate to local follicles and provide some dht protection, so effectively it would be a long term preventative measure at least. I've seen hints of that mode of action in their videos, but obviously they haven't done long term studies yet to see if hair keeps falling out after a number off years.

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      #17
      I think people should just forget about those companies (replicel, aderans, histogen). They proven of no use. Others cracked it and others will bring it to market.

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      • huawei
        Member
        • Jun 2013
        • 85

        #18
        Originally posted by HairBane
        Sauna or later we will.

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        • Tenma
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2013
          • 172

          #19
          Originally posted by Arashi
          I think people should just forget about those companies (replicel, aderans, histogen). They proven of no use. Others cracked it and others will bring it to market.
          I agree that should be the case with histogen and aderans, but last year replicel surprisingly received good backup and money from a big corporation.

          Maybe they have something promising.

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4423

            #20
            Originally posted by Tenma
            I agree that should be the case with histogen and aderans, but last year replicel surprisingly received good backup and money from a big corporation.

            Maybe they have something promising.
            I've actually got more faith in Histogen than Replicel, mainly because it would allow a combination of an HT plus Histogen's HSC injections for maintenance as well as some regrowth. That would be enough for everyone in the early stages. The growth factors would overpower the effects of DHT and render it useless. Much better than daily Finasteride or daily topical application of CB.

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            • Tenma
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2013
              • 172

              #21
              Originally posted by hellouser
              That would be enough for everyone in the early stages. The growth factors would overpower the effects of DHT and render it useless. Much better than daily Finasteride or daily topical application of CB.
              Histogen was my favorite too a couple of years ago. The problem i see is the halt of HSC development process due to lack of founding.

              Something happened there at close doors, my guess is they expected better results that leaded to substantial regrowth.

              Maybe Arashi is right and we should focuse more on the implications of Jahoda and Tsuji findings and the excitings new pathways opened by those breakthroughs.

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4423

                #22
                Originally posted by Tenma
                Maybe Arashi is right and we should focuse more on the implications of Jahoda and Tsuji findings and the excitings new pathways opened by those breakthroughs.
                I think the attention should be equal to both because I have no desire to wait 10+ years for any of the recent developments to turn into a commercial treatment. That's too long.

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                • James7
                  Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 93

                  #23
                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  I've actually got more faith in Histogen than Replicel, mainly because it would allow a combination of an HT plus Histogen's HSC injections for maintenance as well as some regrowth. That would be enough for everyone in the early stages. The growth factors would overpower the effects of DHT and render it useless. Much better than daily Finasteride or daily topical application of CB.
                  I agree

                  If Histogen were available it would replace any need for finasteride.
                  It would benefit the whole range of norwood classes, and would make HTs a much more appealing and more viable option.
                  This would expand the HT market, benefiting both doctors and patients.

                  Some might say we don't know how effective Histogen is past the 2 year mark, but the same could have been said for finasteride at the date of its FDA approval. They didn't know how long that would be effective either. Time will tell.

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                  • Dan26
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1270

                    #24
                    Hell IMO you are set bro. Go for a nice dense FUE with a conservative nw1.5-2 hairline, keep using minox/RU to maintain the rest. You'll be good for a while that way.

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                    • joely
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 336

                      #25
                      What month is said congress?

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                      • hellouser
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2012
                        • 4423

                        #26
                        Originally posted by joely
                        What month is said congress?
                        May:

                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        Here's the current program schedule at the congress:



                        Click on the image for a larger view!

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                        • Scientalk56
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2012
                          • 282

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Tenma
                          Something happened there at close doors
                          Exactly, and that's what made me angry and depressed..

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                          • JDW
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2012
                            • 108

                            #28
                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            I've actually got more faith in Histogen than Replicel, mainly because it would allow a combination of an HT plus Histogen's HSC injections for maintenance as well as some regrowth. That would be enough for everyone in the early stages. The growth factors would overpower the effects of DHT and render it useless. Much better than daily Finasteride or daily topical application of CB.
                            Agreed and that's why I think histogen should be seen as more more of a success than people first gave it credit for. Injections stopping future loss is a major step.

                            Also these new findings in May look promising, especially with several companies on the ball with it. Look forward to hearing reports from the conference.

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                            • whatsgoingon
                              Member
                              • Sep 2013
                              • 88

                              #29
                              my birthday is in may, maybe present ? One can hope.

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                              • burtandernie
                                Senior Member
                                • Nov 2012
                                • 1568

                                #30
                                I personally would rather use something like CB 03 01 topically then have to get injections into my head. If both work I am going with the topical

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