Is pilofocus the closest cure?

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  • 534623
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2011
    • 1854

    #16
    Originally posted by JJJJrS

    If you're splitting grafts ...
    I wonder how long it will take until people will finally come to realize that there is only one master on this planet when it comes to "how to split grafts/follicles/hairs" - and finally, how to make to 2 hairs from 1 ...

    It's actually as simple to understand like this:

    This is Dr. Coen Gho ...



    ... and here you can see what happenend with all his copycats so far:



    And nothing will change in the near future.

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    • JJJJrS
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2012
      • 638

      #17
      Originally posted by 534623
      This is Dr. Coen Gho ...



      ... and here you can see what happenend with all his copycats so far:



      And nothing will change in the near future.
      Are you trying to say that Gho's HST procedure is all smoke and mirrors, like the Van Damme commercial?

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      • Arashi
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2012
        • 3888

        #18
        Originally posted by JJJJrS
        What I mean by thinner results is less hairs per graft not necessarily yield. In gc's case, the overwhelming majority of hairs in the recipient were 1-hair grafts. There were very few 3-hair grafts, for example.

        I've never done a complete analysis on the recipient though so I would be curious to see how it actually turns out.



        I think 50 would be a perfect size procedure. Obviously, it's not going to make a cosmetic impact but if your goal is to find out how well the procedure works, that should be the size.
        50 obviously is easier to manage than 100 but I always felt the variance in 50 grafts is too high and 100 grafts will yield a more reliable number. 100 grafts wil still be easy to manage as long as the grafts are used on bald recipient area, like to lower the hairline and as long as the grafts in donor are taken from places as close together as possible, which I would ask for of course.

        I'm not sure when I will be in the Netherlands, I think feb/march, as soon as I know I'll drop HASCI an email to find out if they would want to do such 100 graft procedure.

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        • Number47
          Junior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 29

          #19
          Originally posted by Arashi
          50 obviously is easier to manage than 100 but I always felt the variance in 50 grafts is too high and 100 grafts will yield a more reliable number. 100 grafts wil still be easy to manage as long as the grafts are used on bald recipient area, like to lower the hairline and as long as the grafts in donor are taken from places as close together as possible, which I would ask for of course.

          I'm not sure when I will be in the Netherlands, I think feb/march, as soon as I know I'll drop HASCI an email to find out if they would want to do such 100 graft procedure.
          Hi Arashi, thanx for the info but lets not turn this into another Gho thread.Lets talk about pilofocus. No scaring its a revolution if it works lets hope it does. Regrowth would be awesome but i think we shouldn't get our hopes up with this, all the regrowth promises we have seen so far is just splitting grafts or transecting them on purpose. Lets wait and see how it works as a hair transplant and then we can see how it works in terms of donor regeneration.

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          • clarence
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2012
            • 278

            #20
            Would be easier to stop talking about Gho, if everyone stop calling pilofocus a revolution

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              #21
              Originally posted by Number47
              Hi Arashi, thanx for the info but lets not turn this into another Gho thread.Lets talk about pilofocus. No scaring its a revolution if it works lets hope it does. Regrowth would be awesome but i think we shouldn't get our hopes up with this, all the regrowth promises we have seen so far is just splitting grafts or transecting them on purpose. Lets wait and see how it works as a hair transplant and then we can see how it works in terms of donor regeneration.
              It'd be much more productive if Dr. Wesley just got to work on regeneration NOW rather than have everyone wait another year for confirmation ALONE. Such a WASTE of time.

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              • crafter
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2013
                • 239

                #22
                Originally posted by hellouser
                It'd be much more productive if Dr. Wesley just got to work on regeneration NOW rather than have everyone wait another year for confirmation ALONE. Such a WASTE of time.
                whys it take so long? i know hair grows slow but if they did it tomorow we'd know by february if it works. Then we can pay them loads of money and get hair regeneration

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                • FearTheLoss
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 1581

                  #23
                  Originally posted by hellouser
                  It'd be much more productive if Dr. Wesley just got to work on regeneration NOW rather than have everyone wait another year for confirmation ALONE. Such a WASTE of time.
                  It won't be a year, we should know by summer.

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                  • crafter
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2013
                    • 239

                    #24
                    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                    It won't be a year, we should know by summer.
                    says who?

                    mwamba said he wont know for certain until summer 2015

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      #25
                      Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                      It won't be a year, we should know by summer.
                      It better not, I'm sick of waiting. I'd like to have some kind of idea of what I should do in terms of surgical treatments by next year, but then with 2015 and Histogen's/Replicel's projected release in Asia makes things all the more difficult.

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                      • FearTheLoss
                        Senior Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 1581

                        #26
                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        It better not, I'm sick of waiting. I'd like to have some kind of idea of what I should do in terms of surgical treatments by next year, but then with 2015 and Histogen's/Replicel's projected release in Asia makes things all the more difficult.
                        Yeah, but you know you need your hairline done anyway..so you may as well get that out of the way and enjoy it.

                        Plus it is not likely that histogen or replicel are in asia by 2015...replicel announced on their website that the phase II trial is going to be 3 years long...and histogen just lost their investor so that is going to mess up their timeline as well

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4419

                          #27
                          Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                          Yeah, but you know you need your hairline done anyway..so you may as well get that out of the way and enjoy it.

                          Plus it is not likely that histogen or replicel are in asia by 2015...replicel announced on their website that the phase II trial is going to be 3 years long...and histogen just lost their investor so that is going to mess up their timeline as well
                          But what about the thinning everywhere else? Do I continue to take experimentals? Do I take my chances with Finasteride?

                          Or...

                          Do I put all my hopes towards a bunch of quacks like Histogen, Replicel or Follica who are too incompetent to hit a deadline thats remotely respectable?

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                          • FearTheLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2012
                            • 1581

                            #28
                            Originally posted by hellouser
                            But what about the thinning everywhere else? Do I continue to take experimentals? Do I take my chances with Finasteride?

                            Or...

                            Do I put all my hopes towards a bunch of quacks like Histogen, Replicel or Follica who are too incompetent to hit a deadline thats remotely respectable?
                            Get smp in thinning areas....or do experimentals..we will know what vehicle is used for CB within the next 2 years or so..

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              #29
                              Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                              Get smp in thinning areas....or do experimentals..we will know what vehicle is used for CB within the next 2 years or so..
                              Not ever going to do SMP. EVER. Thats not a solution.

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                              • FearTheLoss
                                Senior Member
                                • Dec 2012
                                • 1581

                                #30
                                Originally posted by hellouser
                                Not ever going to do SMP. EVER. Thats not a solution.
                                It can definitely play a great role when used properly...to increase the allusion of density

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