First Pics of 3D spheroidal DP aggregate @ Dr. Nigam's Lab

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  • hellouser
    Senior Member
    • May 2012
    • 4419

    #31
    Originally posted by UK_
    I'd contribute.
    I'd give everything in my bank account to have a full head of hair again. I'm tired of waiting, false promises and con artists.

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      #32
      Originally posted by UK_
      I'd contribute.
      I'd definetely chip in $1000. Though I'm afraid it's a bit of an unrealistic idea. We'd need someone with expertise, to operate in a good lab in a non western country and people to experiment on. I don't think any of these are easy to get.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4419

        #33
        Originally posted by Arashi
        I'd definetely chip in $1000. Though I'm afraid it's a bit of an unrealistic idea. We'd need someone with expertise, to operate in a good lab in a non western country and people to experiment on. I don't think any of these are easy to get.
        Back to my original suggestion: We kidnap Dr. Roland Lauster.

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        • Arashi
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          • Aug 2012
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          #34
          Originally posted by hellouser
          Back to my original suggestion: We kidnap Dr. Roland Lauster.
          Hehe

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
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            #35
            Nigams will probably be our only hope. If he shows horrible pictures again in which he claims success, we can assume the experiment failed. If he posts good pictures in which success is undeniable, then we know it was real.

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            • hellouser
              Senior Member
              • May 2012
              • 4419

              #36
              Originally posted by Arashi
              Hehe
              Actually, is there any world leading doctor out there that DOESNT have any ties with a company to bring forth a baldness cure? For example, Cotsarelis is working on Follica, Lauster mentioned plans for clinical trials on humans back in 2010...

              Does Jahoda have any plans for profit in the future from his own findings? Could we not reach out to someone who's got no businessman asshole tactics and is more of a moral/ethical doctor that could give us insight on any or all of the theories we could try ourselves, in particular, wounding theory with FGF-9? Why are we only relying on ourselves?

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #37
                Nigams just needs to do this experiment on a slick bald NW7. Not someone with diffuse thinning or someone with a lot of hair in the first place. Only that way he can make a reliable case.

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                • Arashi
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 3888

                  #38
                  Or alternatively, if Boldy would inject himself on a slick bald piece of his scalp, that would be very reliable proof too. Although I think he's a bit naieve when it comes to Nigams, I do strongly believe Boldy's intentions are pure and he's very trustworthy. He seems to think everything is safe, so if he'd inject himself, then that would be very good proof. Hopefully Nigams will try that.

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                  • brunobald
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2013
                    • 169

                    #39
                    Ok so we can grow heart tissue cells and im sure they have also grown some liver cells. My question is, is there any way to grow tissue capable of sustaining hair. If we could grow skin then we would have an unlimited number of test benches to inject various combos of hair stems cells, growth factors, etc..

                    Scientists said Tuesday they had used stem cells to grow human heart tissue that contracted spontaneously in a petri dish — marking progress in the quest to manufacture transplant organs. A t…

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                    • hellouser
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                      • May 2012
                      • 4419

                      #40
                      Originally posted by brunobald
                      Ok so we can grow heart tissue cells and im sure they have also grown some liver cells. My question is, is there any way to grow tissue capable of sustaining hair. If we could grow skin then we would have an unlimited number of test benches to inject various combos of hair stems cells, growth factors, etc..

                      http://www.nydailynews.com/life-styl...icle-1.1428089
                      I actually suggested something like this to someone on another forum;

                      What if a company like Replicel we're to use Dr. Lausters method of creating artificial skin in order to have unlimited skin to use for development of follicles before moving the method onto human subjects? You would basically have a way of perfecting the process without the need for mice or humans and be more or less (potentially) human results and perfect them without having to have the FDA bitch and moan about humans being tested and then just worry about human subjects in the clinical trials.

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                      • Arashi
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 3888

                        #41
                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        You would basically have a way of perfecting the process without the need for mice or humans and be more or less (potentially) human results and perfect them without having to have the FDA bitch and moan about humans being tested and then just worry about human subjects in the clinical trials.
                        The skin would still need to be kept alive. Jahoda et al did this buy transplanting the human skin onto mice.
                        I'm not sure how hard it is to get human skin but since circumcision is still pretty common in the Arabic world, it shouldn't be hard to get foreskin (just like Jahoda used).

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                        • brunobald
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                          • Jul 2013
                          • 169

                          #42
                          Dr. Lausters method of creating artificial skin
                          Is this the foreskin grafting, growing real skin in isolation or is it an engineering synthetic skin with all the properties of skin that can maintain hair?

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                          • hellouser
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2012
                            • 4419

                            #43
                            Originally posted by brunobald
                            Is this the foreskin grafting, growing real skin in isolation or is it an engineering synthetic skin with all the properties of skin that can maintain hair?
                            Not sure, its artificial skin but thats more of a question for Dr. Lauster. However, I think they're trying to make it as real as possible since the entire purpose of Lauster's work is to eliminate animal testing, therefor, it should have as much of the characteristics of real skin as possible.

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                            • brunobald
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2013
                              • 169

                              #44
                              Veca, how long can these sphereoids sit in the petri dish outside the human body. What is the medium they are resting in. Do they need to be stored at a specific temp?

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                              • Arashi
                                Senior Member
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 3888

                                #45
                                Anyway, Jahoda already succeeded at doing this on human skin transplanted onto mice. No need to recreate skin. This needs to be tested on humans now, just like Nigams is planning to do. Let's just hope he can repeat what Jahoda did and that he's not planning to use all the trickery in the book again to fake results.

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