Blood test (DHT) with finasteride every other day.

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  • JulioGP
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 294

    Blood test (DHT) with finasteride every other day.

    Hello my friends. After seeing numerous published studies saying that it is possible to take finasteride every other day, I decided to do my own test. Read some studies including saying that even after nearly 7 days, the DHT still remains dropped.

    The dosage that I initially chose to make this test was to 1mg every other day, for 20 days.

    How the test is performed: Suppose I have taken finasteride on the evening of July 10, the test was performed on the morning of July 12, between 7 and 8am , ie, the blood was collected approximately 35 hours after administration from Finasteride 1mg.

    Look at the result:



    I wonder if anyone uses finasteride this way and proved its effectiveness with blood tests because my test is showing that there is no efficiency. Is that 20 days is little to some fall in DHT after starting finasteride? I have not had any significant changes in DHT.

    My next blood test will be here approximately one month, and I will use 0.5 mg every day to see if there will be drop in DHT.

    I await your comments.
  • Dan26
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2012
    • 1270

    #2
    Julio this seems very odd

    1mg every other day is certainly enough to cause a significant reduction in DHT. After 20 days your DHT should be atleast cut in half.

    Your results just don't make sense, it is strange.

    I just got my DHT tested yesterday and I am going to start on 0.05mg fin now. Perhaps I will measure my DHT again in a month to make sure my DHT has reduced.

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    • goldbondmafia
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2011
      • 406

      #3
      Originally posted by Dan26

      I just got my DHT tested yesterday and I am going to start on 0.05mg fin now. Perhaps I will measure my DHT again in a month to make sure my DHT has reduced.
      I actually got mine done yesterday too but ive been on fin 1mg for exactly 6 weeks. Did it cost you $80 as well? Trying to get my insurance to cover it

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      • csoul
        Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 49

        #4
        I don't understand your DHT values.

        My results of DHT (before starting 0.5mg of Finasteride): 46 ng/dL based on a reference range of 30 - 85 (ng/dL) so I don't understand your 900s values of DHT or your reference values of 250 - 990.

        Normally we see ng/dL for the DHT values.

        I will measure my DHT again in 3 months to see where is my DHT level after using 0.5mg of generic Finasteride.

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        • UK_
          Senior Member
          • Feb 2011
          • 2744

          #5
          I dont understand, FIN is already proven to lower DHT? One 0.5mg pill can lower it for 5 - 7 days, it's v powerful stuff.

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          • JulioGP
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2013
            • 294

            #6
            csoul, are you the member Angelferiani?

            Depends on the type of examination performed. This scale my exam is quite common, is in pg/ml instead ng/dl.

            Depends on the method you used for tests, but that does not change in terms of %. At this scale, the Finasteride was taking effect, there would be some number around 300 pg / ml. With Duta, these values ​​are close to 100 pg / ml. The scale is correct.

            UK,

            Yes, 1mg of Finasteride is to reduce considerably the DHT, but what I wanted was just to test this dosage every other day, since it is known that the half-life of finasteride is a few hours and not days as has been presented .

            I would love to see the blood tests of who is using Finasteride and not taking daily but with intervals.



            See this graph using the scale ng / dl. There is a reduction to less than almost 50% on the first day and remains almost by half by the third day (65ng/dl for something around 35ng/dl). Something not found in my blood test.

            Being that I remained for 20 days to have sure that'd be in bloodstream and this study shows that one days after administration, the reduction is well strong.

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            • Dan26
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2012
              • 1270

              #7
              Originally posted by goldbondmafia
              I actually got mine done yesterday too but ive been on fin 1mg for exactly 6 weeks. Did it cost you $80 as well? Trying to get my insurance to cover it
              Cost me $40 bucks bro. Also gonna check if my insurance covers it but i doubt it. Let us know your results man! They said id get mine in a week

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              • csoul
                Member
                • Apr 2013
                • 49

                #8
                Originally posted by JulioGP
                csoul, are you the member Angelferiani?
                I have no idea who Angelferiani is... I am me.

                Do you know how much 989 pg /ml in ng/dL? I am trying to calculate that with some online converters without luck. I just want to compare with my results.

                I like your approach. I will test my DHT and testosterone again in one month because I am already feeling side effects even with 0.5mg of generic finasteride. My semen is very clear now and my libido is going down very fast.

                The DHT test cost $60 using the following online service. I tried this site several times and work amazing and their customer service is very friendly and fast. You don't even need to have any doctor order because they create one for you to the closest lab in your area.

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                • JulioGP
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2013
                  • 294

                  #9
                  Friend csoul,

                  You can convert these units here:


                  989pg/ml is approximately 0.989 ng/dL. The scale is relatively simple.

                  Here in Brazil is very simple do exams, because as the public health service does not work well, we have to pay for private health plans, so these blood tests are pay by the health plan.

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                  • csoul
                    Member
                    • Apr 2013
                    • 49

                    #10
                    Wow 0.989 ng/dL is super low.

                    My last DHT test was 46 ng/dL (Reference Range Adult Male 30-85).

                    That does not make any sense to have almost cero of DHT

                    I thought that my 46 ng/dL was already low because I have seen results here of people with DHT on the 200s or 300s (ng/dL ) so 0.989 ng/dL does not make any sense at all.

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                    • tdo
                      Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 30

                      #11
                      Julio,

                      Like I said in the Keratene thread, whoever is doing your blood testing is not doing it correctly.

                      Yes, the chart you showed of Propecia/Fin is the plasma half life, which is basically the time it is cleared from your blood. However, the biological half life of Propecia/Fin is 48 or 72 hrs. This is essentially the time it takes Fin to stop working and the body to start making DHT again.

                      Based on your test, one pill of Keratene is nearly as effective as 1mg of Propecia EOD, which is absurd......

                      If your blood testing proves anything, its that we have to take people's blood test results with a grain of salt.......

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                      • JulioGP
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 294

                        #12
                        Originally posted by csoul
                        Wow 0.989 ng/dL is super low.

                        My last DHT test was 46 ng/dL (Reference Range Adult Male 30-85).

                        That does not make any sense to have almost cero of DHT

                        I thought that my 46 ng/dL was already low because I have seen results here of people with DHT on the 200s or 300s (ng/dL ) so 0.989 ng/dL does not make any sense at all.
                        Csoul,

                        Correcting actually is not 0,989 but 98.9 ng / dl, my fault. It is high above the standard which is generally between 80 and 85.

                        Here is a website for accurate conversion of these values. The previous number(0,989) is x 100. = 98,9ng/dl.

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                        • JulioGP
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2013
                          • 294

                          #13
                          Originally posted by tdo
                          Julio,

                          Like I said in the Keratene thread, whoever is doing your blood testing is not doing it correctly.

                          Yes, the chart you showed of Propecia/Fin is the plasma half life, which is basically the time it is cleared from your blood. However, the biological half life of Propecia/Fin is 48 or 72 hrs. This is essentially the time it takes Fin to stop working and the body to start making DHT again.

                          Based on your test, one pill of Keratene is nearly as effective as 1mg of Propecia EOD, which is absurd......

                          If your blood testing proves anything, its that we have to take people's blood test results with a grain of salt.......
                          tdo,

                          The blood test is correct, what it shows is that the way in which the Kératene had no effectiveness, manage Finasteride in this way is somewhat doubtful. Someone here in the forum had done blood tests running this way? Or just everyone believes in some graphic released on the internet?

                          Sorry dude, but I do not believe either of these things and how I have the possibility to take exams and everything, I prefer to do them and make sure the things they are saying.

                          I'm not 100% confident that this graphic is correct. As in various places including the instruction of Finasteride, there is the explanation that the half-life of 5 to 6 hours on the average, very different from 48 or 72 hours.

                          Look what the instructions say:
                          "The mean terminal half-life is approximately 5 to 6 hours in men aged 18-60 years and in 12 hours have disappeared from the body."

                          48 hours? No. If in 12 hours since there is nothing in the plasma, it is quite possible that return to normal levels within 12 hours or less.

                          As I said in other tests taking finasteride as normal, 1mg per day, DHT reduces consideravalmente.

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                          • tdo
                            Member
                            • Oct 2012
                            • 30

                            #14
                            Originally posted by JulioGP
                            tdo,

                            The blood test is correct, what it shows is that the way in which the Kératene had no effectiveness, manage Finasteride in this way is somewhat doubtful. Someone here in the forum had done blood tests running this way? Or just everyone believes in some graphic released on the internet?

                            Sorry dude, but I do not believe either of these things and how I have the possibility to take exams and everything, I prefer to do them and make sure the things they are saying.

                            I'm not 100% confident that this graphic is correct. As in various places including the instruction of Finasteride, there is the explanation that the half-life of 5 to 6 hours on the average, very different from 48 or 72 hours.

                            Look what the instructions say:
                            "The mean terminal half-life is approximately 5 to 6 hours in men aged 18-60 years and in 12 hours have disappeared from the body."

                            48 hours? No. If in 12 hours since there is nothing in the plasma, it is quite possible that return to normal levels within 12 hours or less.

                            As I said in other tests taking finasteride as normal, 1mg per day, DHT reduces consideravalmente.
                            Julio,

                            I am just trying to help you out so you dont needlessly keep on paying for blood tests which are incorrect.

                            I am in graduate school and I have taken many hours of pharmacology. There is a difference between plasma half life and biological half life.

                            If you dont believe me, look up on the subject yourself......

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                            • JulioGP
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2013
                              • 294

                              #15
                              Tdo Okay, thank you.

                              But how then you explain to me when I took finasteride daily and did the exams, my DHT reduced by about 50%?

                              It was exactly the same blood test, the difference is that instead of waiting almost two days(more than 30 hours) to do the blood test, I did the next day. In that case, yes my examination showed the efficiency of Finasteride reduce DHT, which did not happen in this case. If you can take a more technical explanation then the difference between these situations would be commendable.

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