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  • Thinning87
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 839

    #31
    It's likely that they will. At this point the news you have to look for is a partnership or the beginning of phase 2B. All the rest is just business deelopment.

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    • UK_
      Senior Member
      • Feb 2011
      • 2691

      #32
      It would be great if Spencer could have an interview with Dr Ziering.

      It's been a while since the two got together and I think the forum could do with a bit of good news.

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      • FearTheLoss
        Senior Member
        • Dec 2012
        • 1581

        #33
        They wouldn't get a slot to speak if they were just repeating what they said last year. I will be they show the results that we have seen thanks to Desmond...and they will announce a partner and that they are heading to IIb

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        • hellouser
          Senior Member
          • May 2012
          • 4419

          #34
          Originally posted by FearTheLoss
          They wouldn't get a slot to speak if they were just repeating what they said last year. I will be they show the results that we have seen thanks to Desmond...and they will announce a partner and that they are heading to IIb
          NW4s and below will benefit from Histogen GREATLY.

          I would hope this adds some serious density for guys like me. HT + Histogen maintenance and I'm set.

          Looks like Q4 of 2013 is gonna be a busy month for hair loss sufferers.

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          • FearTheLoss
            Senior Member
            • Dec 2012
            • 1581

            #35
            Originally posted by hellouser
            NW4s and below will benefit from Histogen GREATLY.

            I would hope this adds some serious density for guys like me. HT + Histogen maintenance and I'm set.

            Looks like Q4 of 2013 is gonna be a busy month for hair loss sufferers.
            I agree, and (crossing fingers) if histogen becomes available and Dr. Wesley is getting 50% donor regeneration...even a nw6 could have good density..if they aren't already slick bald nw6...because as of now, hsc doesn't grow anything on slick bald

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            • FearTheLoss
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2012
              • 1581

              #36
              that being said it would be interesting to see HSC and ACell in the donor region for regeneration

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              • hellouser
                Senior Member
                • May 2012
                • 4419

                #37
                Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                that being said it would be interesting to see HSC and ACell in the donor region for regeneration
                I've got a gut feeling that Replicel injections done first followed by Histogen's growth factors could turn all those cells into complete follicles. Shit, I would start off with wounding for a couple months before going in for a Replicel treatment. While doing all that, I would actually temporarily go on finasteride to give follicles a chance to form without fvcking DHT getting in the way, give it a good environment.

                PrettyFly83 was able to grow a ton of follicles by deep dermarolling in two months. Looks we're getting very close, I think we've accomplished more in the last 2-3 years than we ever have in the last 30.

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                • Thinning87
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2012
                  • 839

                  #38
                  Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                  They wouldn't get a slot to speak if they were just repeating what they said last year. I will be they show the results that we have seen thanks to Desmond...and they will announce a partner and that they are heading to IIb
                  That's exactly what everyone was saying before the Edinburgh congress in may an then look what happened...

                  You want them to announce something so bad that you're willing to convince yourself of it without any evidence.

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                  • UK_
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2691

                    #39
                    Originally posted by FearTheLoss
                    They wouldn't get a slot to speak if they were just repeating what they said last year. I will be they show the results that we have seen thanks to Desmond...and they will announce a partner and that they are heading to IIb
                    There's not just Histogen, Dr Ziering himself claimed to be running small trials with HSC, there are also (according to Ziering) doctors in Japan who were using HSC. We could also get some information about what's going on between this collaboration between Gail & Dr Fitzpatrick, we could ask about the animal studies and also when the next human trial will actually be. I wouldnt mind hearing Dr Zierings opinion on Aderans either and Follicas update a month ago and how FGF9 could relate to HSC.

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                    • UK_
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2011
                      • 2691

                      #40
                      Originally posted by hellouser
                      I've got a gut feeling that Replicel injections done first followed by Histogen's growth factors could turn all those cells into complete follicles. Shit, I would start off with wounding for a couple months before going in for a Replicel treatment. While doing all that, I would actually temporarily go on finasteride to give follicles a chance to form without fvcking DHT getting in the way, give it a good environment.

                      PrettyFly83 was able to grow a ton of follicles by deep dermarolling in two months. Looks we're getting very close, I think we've accomplished more in the last 2-3 years than we ever have in the last 30.
                      That model hair follicle they announced last month, they said when the follicle was placed into the skin of a mouse it started to give off all the right signals (WNT cascade etc) and entered the typical cycling process.

                      That's "the cure" right there, how far it is away from being sold on the open market is a whole different story.

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                      • Desmond84
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2012
                        • 987

                        #41
                        The Long-term animal safety study generally runs parallel to Phase 2 studies to ensure there are no risks of carcinogenicity or mutagenesis before large scale Phase 3 begins.

                        It's a shame Histogen can't afford to do both human and animal studies simultaneously; but at least they are holding on and pushing things forward as best as they can, unlike some of their competitors that simply fold!

                        Histogen really needs more funding for such a promising treatment!

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                        • UK_
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 2691

                          #42
                          Originally posted by Desmond84
                          The Long-term animal safety study generally runs parallel to Phase 2 studies to ensure there are no risks of carcinogenicity or mutagenesis before large scale Phase 3 begins.

                          It's a shame Histogen can't afford to do both human and animal studies simultaneously; but at least they are holding on and pushing things forward as best as they can, unlike some of their competitors that simply fold!

                          Histogen really needs more funding for such a promising treatment!
                          They could if we opened a God damn kickstarter for them.

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                          • HARIRI
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 467

                            #43
                            This makes me laugh so much, we have been jumping from happiness, shooting loads in the toilet for being so close to the final cure.

                            Guess what, Aderan Stopped, Histogen No Money, Replicel Silent.

                            While in the other hands, Dr. Nigam messing it up with his posted results of the claimed Donor Doubling technique.

                            More profits coming to Rogaine, Propecia and to the regular Hair Transplant World

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              #44
                              Originally posted by HARIRI
                              This makes me laugh so much, we have been jumping from happiness, shooting loads in the toilet for being so close to the final cure.

                              Guess what, Aderan Stopped, Histogen No Money, Replicel Silent.

                              While in the other hands, Dr. Nigam messing it up with his posted results of the claimed Donor Doubling technique.

                              More profits coming to Rogaine, Propecia and to the regular Hair Transplant World
                              Yeah. But on a positive note:

                              * Replicel found a huge pharma company investing in them
                              * Follica back from the dead
                              * Jahoda biogenerated a hair follicle and grew it on human skin
                              * Dermarolling + minox showing great results

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                              • hellouser
                                Senior Member
                                • May 2012
                                • 4419

                                #45
                                Originally posted by Arashi
                                Yeah. But on a positive note:

                                * Replicel found a huge pharma company investing in them
                                * Follica back from the dead
                                * Jahoda biogenerated a hair follicle and grew it on human skin
                                * Dermarolling + minox showing great results
                                Don't forget CB being on the black market. That shit should hold us over for a while.

                                Also Pilofocus and regeneration.

                                And Dr. Mwamba meeting with Nigam as well as Dr. Cole having interest in Nigam as well (if legitimate).

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