whats the problem with Gho??

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  • stayhopeful
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 280

    #31
    I plan on having GHO transplants and the Scarless FUE to densify the hairline region as a second procedure.. What do you all think?

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    • Arashi
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 3888

      #32
      Originally posted by stayhopeful
      I plan on having GHO transplants and the Scarless FUE to densify the hairline region as a second procedure.. What do you all think?
      I think that if you even have as little as 10% confidence in Dr Nigams, you should wait and see how Tom's hair develops. If you don't have any confidence in him, yeah Gho is the way to go for sure (if you have the money). Just keep in mind that currently the regrowth percentage is still very much topic of debate (as you can see here) but regardless is still the best procedure out there at the moment.

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      • 534623
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2011
        • 1865

        #33
        Originally posted by Arashi

        I perfectly understand what she's saying though. She's kind of admitting that regrowth is nowhere near 80%, just like we saw in GC's case (where we saw 65% but that number was greatly skewed to the upside because of the failed extractions, hence it's most probably even lower than 50%).
        By the way ...

        IF all the BS you claim about "Kristel is saying" would be true, then can you explain me and others please ...

        - for what was your whole "50 grafts test procedure" crap at all;

        - and why was Kristel willing to do one, if the "addmitted success rate" is much lower as claimed by HSCI??

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        • Arashi
          Senior Member
          • Aug 2012
          • 3888

          #34
          Originally posted by 534623
          By the way ...

          IF all the BS you claim about "Kristel is saying" would be true, then can you explain me and others please ...

          - for what was your whole "50 grafts test procedure" crap at all;

          - and why was Kristel willing to do one, if the "addmitted success rate" is much lower as claimed by HSCI??
          I don't know. You tell me. You saw yourself how only 3 3's where in the 50 graft test. If they knew they couldn't extract 3's from a guy who has just about average hair, then why would they agree to doing the test ? Wouldn't it make them look bad ? You tell me ..

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          • Arashi
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2012
            • 3888

            #35
            And after they understood the 1st 50 graft test was worthless because they hadn't shot 1 single good pre-op photo, they surely must have understood the importance of a good pre-op photo. I even mailed it to them how important it was (in case they hadn't figured it out, lol). And now we get to see 1 (just 1) pre-op photo's that's way below mediocre at best ? Why is that ? You tell me ..

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            • 534623
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2011
              • 1865

              #36
              Originally posted by Arashi

              I don't know. You tell me. You saw yourself how only 3 3's where in the 50 graft test.
              And who says, BESIDES YOU and only YOU, that the "3 3's" in the "3" section of the petri dish were considered as "3-hair grafts" ????????????????

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              • Arashi
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 3888

                #37
                Originally posted by 534623
                And who says, BESIDES YOU and only YOU, that the "3 3's" in the "3" section of the petri dish were considered as "3-hair grafts" ????????????????
                Eh ? That's why they put them in the "3's" section. Not sure what you're implying or trying to say here ?

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                • 534623
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2011
                  • 1865

                  #38
                  Originally posted by Arashi

                  Eh ? That's why they put them in the "3's" section. Not sure what you're implying or trying to say here ?
                  I don't know HOW OFTEN we discussed the purpose of the 3 sections in Gho's petri dishes - all I know it was very often. Section "3" is ONLY for the so-called "failed extraction" grafts!!

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                  • JJJJrS
                    Senior Member
                    • Apr 2012
                    • 643

                    #39
                    Originally posted by 534623
                    By the way ...

                    IF all the BS you claim about "Kristel is saying" would be true, then can you explain me and others please ...

                    - for what was your whole "50 grafts test procedure" crap at all;

                    - and why was Kristel willing to do one, if the "addmitted success rate" is much lower as claimed by HSCI??
                    1. HASCI didn't complete any 50 graft test procedure. They gave us terrible photos that are impossible to analyse.

                    2. You keep ignoring this issue, but do you think 80% of the hairs extracted during your procedure regenerated? Because I didn't see that at all for either you or gc.

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                    • Arashi
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 3888

                      #40
                      Originally posted by 534623
                      I don't know HOW OFTEN we discussed the purpose of the 3 sections in Gho's petri dishes - all I know it was very often. Section "3" is ONLY for the so-called "failed extraction" grafts!!
                      You're wrong here dear IM. Remember that she mailed this:

                      Ik moest inclusief instellen 75x boren voor 51 goede grafts. Dit waren 23 met 1 wortel, 16 met 2 wortel en 2 met 3 wortels

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                      • 534623
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 1865

                        #41
                        Originally posted by Arashi
                        You're wrong here dear Im. Remember that she mailed this:
                        "Ik moest inclusief instellen 75x boren voor 51 goede grafts. Dit waren 23 met 1 wortel, 16 met 2 wortel en 2 met 3 wortels"

                        Yeah - and?

                        We know in the meanwhile, that you don't even understand you native language, because there is not 1 single word which says, that the 3-hair grafts belong to section "3" in the petri dish - besides the fact, that we noticed a typo and/or wrong counting anyhow.

                        The text just says how many 1-hair, 2-hair and 3-hair grafts she extracted and how many drills she made to get "51 goede grafts" - that's all.

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                        • JJJJrS
                          Senior Member
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 643

                          #42
                          Originally posted by 534623
                          I don't know HOW OFTEN we discussed the purpose of the 3 sections in Gho's petri dishes - all I know it was very often. Section "3" is ONLY for the so-called "failed extraction" grafts!!
                          The amount of excuses you make for HASCI is ridiculous..

                          Where are the 3-hair grafts in the petri dish genius?

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                          • 534623
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2011
                            • 1865

                            #43
                            Originally posted by JJJJrS

                            The amount of excuses you make for HASCI is ridiculous..

                            Where are the 3-hair grafts in the petri dish genius?
                            Of course where you always can find them:

                            Either in section 1 or section 2 - depending on the "first in - first out" principle, idiot.

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                            • Arashi
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 3888

                              #44
                              Originally posted by 534623
                              besides the fact, that we noticed a typo and/or wrong counting anyhow.
                              Yup ! Remember how those numbers she gave didn't add up (23+16+2 =41, not 51). And remember how we figured that she must have had the number of 3's wrong and that it must be 12 since this guy's hair is very very normal/average and he had a lot of 3's in donor ? Now look at the petridish photo I posted before ! the correct numbers are:

                              1's: 33
                              2's: 16
                              3's: 2

                              (well petridish shows 2x 15 and 3x3 to be precize, they might have moved 1 from the 2 to 3 section)

                              Anyway, that's an average of only 1.35 hair per graft. That's even way worse than the 1.5 I predicted earlier.

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                              • JJJJrS
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2012
                                • 643

                                #45
                                Originally posted by 534623
                                Of course where you always can find them:

                                Either in section 1 or section 2 - depending on the "first in - first out" principle, idiot.
                                Please, tell me where these 3-hair grafts are:



                                I see 1-hair grafts in the 1 section, 2-hair grafts in the 2 section.

                                Where are the 3-hair grafts outside the 3 section. Does your ridicolous, delusional Gho-bias make you see things that don't exist?

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