Dr Nigams - NSN Donor regeneration!

[Arashi]

I also agree in keeping this civilised

Didi clearly is just a troll. Look at how he keeps doubting Gho, how he always finds some (totally illogical/insane) argument even when presented with undeniable evidence. And then when Dr Nigam just farts, he presents that fart as it was evidence. Not sure why we should keep 'civilized' when somebody acts like that.

[gc83uk]

Didi clearly is just a troll. Look at how he keeps doubting Gho, how he always finds some (totally illogical) argument even when presented with undeniable evidence. And then when Dr Nigam just farts, he presents that fart as it was evidence. Not sure why we should keep 'civilized' when somebody acts like that.

I agree, however I was just highlighting how hypocritical Didi was just then!

[Arashi]

I agree, however I was just highlighting how hypocritical Didi was just then!

Hehe, good point. Calling Dr Gho a hermit and then note that we should keep the thread civilized. He really does have a sense of humor (or is just plain crazy, I'm still not sure which one it is).

[534623]

Now you're assuming Didi is smarter than a chimpanzee. I don't know about that.

You're right - that's actually a good question ...


As you can see, chimpanzees are able to paint - but I highly doubt that didi is able to do the same with gc's photos.

[Arashi]

You're right - that's actually a good question ...

He's got quite a bit of hair. Is this after Didi went to India or before ?

[gc83uk]

Didi

[534623]

He's got quite a bit of hair. Is this after Didi went to India or before ?

Yes, he already had multiple procedures with Dr. Nigam - who tried to perform Dr. Gho's old FM method.
As you can see in the pic - works great!

[Arashi]

Yeah I just saw Didi's case on Dr Nigam's site.

Didi Pre-op:





Didi post-op:

[clandestine]

This thread is retarded.

OP's Picture is interesting, though.

[Arashi]

This thread is retarded.

OP's Picture is interesting, though.

It will get interesting once NSN starts to post pictures of the whole donor area + pre-op pics. But even then, Dr Nigam himself said that with his technique, it's not so much a question of donor regrowth, but a question of recipient growth (since he leaves most of the Graft in the donor area in tact). Which means we'll have to wait 3 months before we can make a judgement on the case. Until then, with all photoshopping and lying (about his wife's clinic for example), I'll stay very very reserved about this Dr Nigam ...

[drnigams]

Ironman,Arashi,
Come to my skype dr.nigams after fixing a time,
If you are genuine you will.
We will discuss everything who is old and who is new.
Be ready there will be at least 25 case studies with documentation in 2013 on hair doubling followed with hair tripling,followed with HM+plus dp culture (the real old stuff ?). And yes documentation with many independent forum members.
And i am talking about Theoretical 100% regeneration at donor(Due to human error sometimes 90 to 95% donor regeneration)and 80 to 90 % regeneration minimum at the recipient.
And i am also coming up shortly to give vision to blind techniques in HT industry for the benefit of patients....yes world's first HAIR ultra sound and color doppler monitored procedures,to increase graft survival,bisection and regeneration wherein you can watch the dermal papilla position and angle in multiple follicle graft ,hair shaft and much more.
Come on ironman ,i believe even if you would have been a competitor you would still not hesitate to exchange thoughts,research,debate.
Why don't you listen to other doctors and than come to a conclusion.

We all can win together, no body loses.

Yes, he already had multiple procedures with Dr. Nigam - who tried to perform Dr. Gho's old FM method.
As you can see in the pic - works great!

[Arashi]

Ironman,Arashi,
Come to my skype dr.nigams after fixing a time,
If you are genuine you will.
We will discuss everything who is old and who is new.
Be ready there will be at least 25 case studies with documentation in 2013 on hair doubling followed with hair tripling,followed with HM+plus dp culture (the real old stuff ?). And yes documentation with many independent forum members.
And i am talking about Theoretical 100% regeneration at donor(Due to human error sometimes 90 to 95% donor regeneration)and 80 to 90 % regeneration minimum at the recipient.
And i am also coming up shortly to give vision to blind techniques in HT industry for the benefit of patients....yes world's first HAIR ultra sound and color doppler monitored procedures,to increase graft survival,bisection and regeneration wherein you can watch the dermal papilla position and angle in multiple follicle graft ,hair shaft and much more.
Come on ironman ,i believe even if you would have been a competitor you would still not hesitate to exchange thoughts,research,debate.
Why don't you listen to other doctors and than come to a conclusion.

We all can win together, no body loses.

I'm not interested in a 'debate'. I'm interested in (pre-op) photo's from NSN.

Look, at this point I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, even after all 'sketchy' things that have been going on. But you just need to show us proof, that's all. I'm not interested in words, I'm interested in (NSN's) photo's.

[Arashi]

So far all you've presented is the 15 graft test, which IMHO is no proof at all since you've performed it on a staff member which has given you tons of opportunities to cheat. And the NSN case, where you shot pre-op photo's but somehow just didn't think of making pre-op photo's of the donor area, only made photo's of the other area's. And where are the recipient pre-op and post-op photos ?

So far you've really not been trying to make any solid case at all or at least failed miserably at doing so.

And yeah I know Gho himself can be accused of that too, but at least we now have tons of patient photo's with undeniable evidence. So if you want people to come to India, you know what to do.

[drnigams]

Arashi,
1) nsn decided to monitor the donor regeneration around birth mark,so that the donor regeneration can be followed easily even if the healing is complete.
2)Pre-op photos(large) of donor(the sides as you wanted), recipient and birth mark have been mailed to nsn
3)At least have a close look and see the before pic(which will be posted may be again by nsn) of birth mark and compare 2 follicle grafts =2 follicle grafts.
Around birthmark which are the 1st photos available from nsn you can see all the grafts are at least with 2 follicles in after pics and nsn has mostly double and single grafts.

One year back pics of donor around the birthmark is still there on thread.Why don't you have alook and compare.
Forget about 2 follicle grafts =2 follicle grafts regeneration,with addition of stemcells,dp cells,dp ,ecm,growth factors into and around the extractions and implant i am expecting much more than just donor regeneration.
Watch out for quick healing wherein you won't be able to distinguish from where the extractions were taken.
4)Recipient before pics are already posted.
When nsn provides recipient photos more larger pics i suppose he will upload.
Donor birthmark already shows 8 out of 9 extractions seen growing.
Recipient was around temples and little around hair line.Lets wait for the recipient.
Arashi technically and theoretically donor regeneration is not going to be an issue because the donor has intact dermal papilla and it's blood supply.
The poor bisected graft at the recipient needs support as it does not have its root and is also devoid of it's blood supply.

Interesting, yes. But still TONS of questions/remarks:

1) How do the other grafts regenerate. Cause IF dr Nigam wanted to cheat, he clearly would do so around that birthmark site. We'd need to see the rest as well
2) Where are the pre-op photo's. We can't see if 2 hair grafts regenerate as 2 hairs or as 1 (same for 3 hair grafts of course)
3) Where are the recipient pre-op photo's and where is the recipient post-op photo ? If donor regenerates but recipient fails to grow then nothing really happened.

I still have tons of reservations, but it surely will be interesting to follow dr Nigam.

[Arashi]

Action speaks louder than words. Once we see the photo's, then we'll talk again. Until then I'm staying extremely skeptical regarding all this. I'm sure you can understand, after all that has happened.