Histogen show "cosmetic" results oct 2012 update

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  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1513

    Originally posted by Tracy C
    It's wonderful news. Don't pay attention to the speculating whiners. The vast majority of them don't know what they are talking about.

    The news from Histogen is not just good news, it's great news.
    which part? The numbers? Not so awesome if you know math.

    Assuming you had left 20% of original density. Add 40% to that:

    20% * 1.40% == 28%


    The pictures are pathetic. Highlight me where you see the improvements because I must be blind and I see none.

    Originally posted by Tracy C
    Especially for diffuse thinners.
    how so? If it can grow 30% of hair it can regrow (30*1000)% of hair, no? It can either turn George Costanza into Mick Jagger or not. There is no in between. This is not that kind of treatment.


    Originally posted by Tracy C
    I still feel Histogen's treatment will be best used if it is also followed by Replicel's treatment. Histogen's treatment will grow back cosmetically significant hair. Replicel's treatment will immunize the regrown cosmetically significant hair from the damaging effects of DHT. These two treatments used together will be a true cure for hereditary hair loss.
    no it won't - they were talking about BRAND NEW FOLLICLES. Immunizing existing follicles is a dream and virtually impossible. It's not even a problem since hair loss can be halted nowadays

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    • Night
      Junior Member
      • Sep 2012
      • 23

      Show me a treatment that doesn't give you side effects, holds on to the hair you have and pit you above baseline in 6 months. You cant. Just because it wont turn a NW7 to a Nw1 in the safety study, doesn't mean its a failure.

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      • rdawg
        Senior Member
        • Jun 2012
        • 996

        Agreed, this is apparently only phase one(of the actual solution, phase two of the device?) of the stuff and this is the results they're getting already. Means increased dosage could bring more and more growth.

        There are alot of positive pathways this could go down and with a 80%+ response rate I dont see many negative things.

        it's a small but significant start, absolutely zero reason to start crying.

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        • Hairismylife
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2012
          • 383

          Originally posted by Dan26
          Bad news bro, Histogen was bought out my MERCK then shelved. Game over man!
          really?????

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          • Artista
            Senior Member
            • Apr 2010
            • 2070

            Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
            When I enquired about HT, I got quotes from Ferundi and Hasson and wong for 9k.
            Hey there Yeah' you were quoted 9K for how many grafts? H&W seems to be the Gold-standard in HTs these days.

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            • yeahyeahyeah
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2011
              • 1776

              Originally posted by Artista
              Hey there Yeah' you were quoted 9K for how many grafts? H&W seems to be the Gold-standard in HTs these days.
              2000 I think it was.

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              • Artista
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2010
                • 2070

                OK, that would make it around $4.50 per graft ,,wait, are you here in the United States ?

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                • UK_
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2011
                  • 2691

                  Even if HSC is only effective in diffuse areas it can be used solely on the crown and EVERY last graft of a HT can be used on the hair line to bring it to a decent NW2. That's a win in my opinion.

                  But honestly the fact that they stated they saw growth on temporal regions is astonishing, minox cant do that, finasteride cant do that and PRP cant do that.

                  Dont listen to all the trolls thinking they know better - those people have many different accounts on different websites - they are psycho losers who have been wrong about Histogen for years and they should be banned from using the treatment when it comes out - hahaha love to see the looks on their faces if that ever happened.

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                  • yeahyeahyeah
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2011
                    • 1776

                    Originally posted by Artista
                    OK, that would make it around $4.50 per graft ,,wait, are you here in the United States ?

                    >
                    > Our fee schedule is 5.00 per graft up to the first 2000 grafts then 3.00 for
                    > each graft thereafter plus 12% HST tax. For our out of town patients that
                    > receive 1500 grafts or more we will credit the procedure for half of the

                    UK

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                    • 534623
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1854

                      Originally posted by UK_

                      But honestly the fact that they stated they saw growth on temporal regions is astonishing
                      I have seen an alien last night. That's a fact.

                      Here is my TrichoScan macro-photo-proof ...

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                      • 2020
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1513

                        no but seriously, if they really had temple regrowth, wouldn't they show it? Those pictures from prweb.com show nothing. If they had better pictures, why would they hide it?

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                        • Dan26
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1270

                          Originally posted by Tracy C
                          The safety and efficacy of RU has not been adequately and appropriately established. There is no such thing as a medication that does not have side effects. Those who claim it has no side effects are being highly unethical. Those who are jumping on the RU bandwagon are being very foolish. Those who are not jumping on this RU bandwagon are being very smart.
                          RU > Fin

                          Anti-androgens are a key component to fighting hairloss. RU has been around for a long time, and aslong as you are getting it from a good source, willing to spend the money, not lazy and willing to make batches yourself, it is great. Systematically decreasing DHT while rasing T is a stupid way to fight hairloss.

                          I don't get why you discourage people try RU and encourage them to try fin, makes no sense. Not saying fin is a bad option, it is effective, unfortunate its the best approved solution we have.

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                          • Dan26
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1270

                            Originally posted by 2020
                            no but seriously, if they really had temple regrowth, wouldn't they show it? Those pictures from prweb.com show nothing. If they had better pictures, why would they hide it?
                            Have faith bro. Get your histogen injections, some OC, CB, shit will grow my dawg. Change gone come.

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                            • hellouser
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2012
                              • 4419

                              Originally posted by Dan26
                              I don't get why you discourage people try RU and encourage them to try fin, makes no sense. Not saying fin is a bad option, it is effective, unfortunate its the best approved solution we have.
                              She's a woman, forgive her. She seems ignorant of the importance of a fully functioning penis to any man. Tell her a potential anti-hair loss drug could jeopardize the use of her snatch and she might change her opinion of RU.

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                              • Desmond84
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 987

                                To 2016: a year of happiness, filled with success stories

                                Year of Histogen, CB, Aderans and full healthy hairy heads!

                                Cheers guys, a change is gonna come

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