Histogen show "cosmetic" results oct 2012 update

[Artista]

Desmond,, you laid out great logical advice for Amibald ,,good going bro!
Amibald,, please consider what he had said to you buddy

[hellouser]

Amibald,

I'm a pharmacist and to be honest with you, I'm not so sure if taking Propecia at your age is really a good idea. You're body is still developing and your hormones are still a roller coaster!

We will know by Feb 2013 if Aderans will have a viable treatment or not...hang in till then. Enjoy your xmas holidays and based on the results they release decide how you're gonna tackle your hairloss.

Let me know, if you have any questions brother...I'm always here to help

In the meantime he could simple use Minox and RU58841 with Nizoral shampoo. Other things such as taking vitamin E and Saw Palmetto may make a small difference but help out as well. I would also encourage finding shampoos that have vitamin E and L-Arginine as well to tackle hairloss. A combo such as this has few potential side effects; Minox only sometimes cause a minor itch for me, RU typically does absolutely NOTHING for side effects. I think Saw Palmetto is the worst offender, it definitely lowers my libido which is fine being single.

Finasteride is garbage, that is stone age medication and only for the pure ignorant and lazy who are willing to risk a permanent limp dick. I cant believe that in 2012 that sh*t is still available for the public, it should be banned with other remedies taking its place (RU & CB are good candidates).

[TravisB]

In the meantime he could simple use Minox and RU58841 with Nizoral shampoo. Other things such as taking vitamin E and Saw Palmetto may make a small difference but help out as well. I would also encourage finding shampoos that have vitamin E and L-Arginine as well to tackle hairloss. A combo such as this has few potential side effects; Minox only sometimes cause a minor itch for me, RU typically does absolutely NOTHING for side effects. I think Saw Palmetto is the worst offender, it definitely lowers my libido which is fine being single.

Finasteride is garbage, that is stone age medication and only for the pure ignorant and lazy who are willing to risk a permanent limp dick. I cant believe that in 2012 that sh*t is still available for the public, it should be banned with other remedies taking its place (RU & CB are good candidates).

Risk of permament limp dick from Fin is close to none.

RU doesn't have any REAL success stories (from RU alone), has unknown side effects (potentially can be dangerous), is expensive and you have to buy it from fishy vendors on the black market.

CB is even more expensive, there also aren't any success stories from people using it (people are probably using fake CB, or they don't have proper vehicle for it's powder form). You also have to buy it from fishy vendors.

CB has potential, but we must wait until 2017 - 2018 when (an IF) it hits the market for hairloss.

[doinmyheadin]

I think Spencer needs to organize an interview with Gail Naughton to clear up or the speculation about results, phases, release date in asia, release date in America.

[Dan26]

Risk of permament limp dick from Fin is close to none.

RU doesn't have any REAL success stories (from RU alone), has unknown side effects (potentially can be dangerous), is expensive and you have to buy it from fishy vendors on the black market.

CB is even more expensive, there also aren't any success stories from people using it (people are probably using fake CB, or they don't have proper vehicle for it's powder form). You also have to buy it from fishy vendors.

CB has potential, but we must wait until 2017 - 2018 when (an IF) it hits the market for hairloss.

1) Thousands of people have had persistent side effects using fin. Of course, millions have used it, but it is not something you simply go get a prescription for and start popping at full dose.

2) Forget real success stories, just look at the studies. Its effectiveness is on par with finasteride's, and it blocks T aswell which helps at the hairline especially. As far as unknown side effects go, you can look at the studies yourself, it is definitely more safe than finasteride. The problem is systematic absorption at high doses and with improper vehicle. It is an anti-androgen, so the sides are similar to that of fin. I agree about the fishy vendors though. You have to use a trusted lab and have ongoing dialogue with them.

3) I agree about CB as well. Although, vehicle's are being worked on and we should be seeing results (good or bad) soon.

[clarence]

If your a NW3 you might need a quick HT to fix the front/hairline too lol, not a prob tho.

Yeah, except you've got a permanent hairline while hair loss continues behind that hairline, which means you'll have a bit of a problem in the future as long as baldness remains uncured. Sure, it's a quick way to set you up for further treatments, which weren't taken into consideration in these understatements of yours.

[Dan26]

Yeah, except you've got a permanent hairline while hair loss continues behind that hairline, which means you'll have a bit of a problem in the future as long as baldness remains uncured. Sure, it's a quick way to set you up for further treatments, which weren't taken into consideration in these understatements of yours.

Read the original post. He is a NW3, and talking about using all the future treatments, which would maintain what he has with perhaps some regrowth. If those products fully stabalized his hairloss, THEN a small HT would be required for a full head of hair.

[clarence]

Read the original post. He is a NW3, and talking about using all the future treatments, which would maintain what he has with perhaps some regrowth. If those products fully stabalized his hairloss, THEN a small HT would be required for a full head of hair.

Well a HT is a pretty quick fix for an (early) NW3, even if he got it tomorrow, don't you think? From what I read, he sounds like he's already maintaining his hairloss pretty well with Finasteride, so only regrowth from future products would bring him benefit from delaying the HT.

[Dan26]

Well a HT is a pretty quick fix for an (early) NW3, even if he got it tomorrow, don't you think? From what I read, he sounds like he's already maintaining his hairloss pretty well with Finasteride, so only regrowth from future products would bring him benefit from delaying the HT.

Ya ya man I see what you are saying. To put is simply I dont think anything in the future like histogen will actually give someone back there hairline though. There are NW 2.5+ who have gained a NW using growth factors, but going back to their teen hair, never seen. If you are greedy and want perfect hair you could get work on your hairline after using something like histogen.

[hellouser]

Ya ya man I see what you are saying. To put is simply I dont think anything in the future like histogen will actually give someone back there hairline though. There are NW 2.5+ who have gained a NW using growth factors, but going back to their teen hair, never seen. If you are greedy and want perfect hair you could get work on your hairline after using something like histogen.

Not entirely true.

It depends for everyone, some men will only lose a portion of their hairline while others will go completely bald. Hair loss isnt the same for everyone. I've developed my grandfather's hairline which is a pretty obvious 'M' pattern, it came in *rapidly* about 6 years ago and has been more or less the same since. Will it progress to a full NW7? I hope not. If its basically slowed down to a stopping point, will I qualify for a touch up now?

And it definitely is possible to go back to a teenage hairline:

http://dft.ba/-rahal

Someone else posted that, but that is an incredible result. I'm considering getting Gho + Rahal done... not sure which to get first.....

[Dan26]

Not entirely true.

It depends for everyone, some men will only lose a portion of their hairline while others will go completely bald. Hair loss isnt the same for everyone. I've developed my grandfather's hairline which is a pretty obvious 'M' pattern, it came in *rapidly* about 6 years ago and has been more or less the same since. Will it progress to a full NW7? I hope not. If its basically slowed down to a stopping point, will I qualify for a touch up now?

And it definitely is possible to go back to a teenage hairline:

http://dft.ba/-rahal

Someone else posted that, but that is an incredible result. I'm considering getting Gho + Rahal done... not sure which to get first.....

Ya bro i was saying that WITHOUT a HT it is unlikely to go back to your teenage hairline. Something like histogen can only take you so far, a HT for the frontal area/headline if you want that teenage hairline back lol.

And btw I hate how HT places take before photos with different lighting, background, facial expression of patient lol, it annoys the shit outta me

[hellouser]

And btw I hate how HT places take before photos with different lighting, background, facial expression of patient lol, it annoys the shit outta me

Its because none of them are professional photographers that understand lights, umbrellas, iso, aperture, shutter speed, focal length, triggers, receivers and the affect the existing lighting in any given room. You'd need all of the exact same variables one day as 6 months later.

I'm fairly certain that they thought 'yeah, we'll take a picture' without knowing how whats actually involved with getting an ACCURATE second photo. It needs to be shot exactly the same way as before.

[ammin]

Something like histogen can only take you so far

Pure speculation! We dont know what histogen is capable of

[Dan26]

Pure speculation! We dont know what histogen is capable of

histogen alone cannot provide that much regrowth i promise you that, cant go from a NW 3+ to a NW 1

[ammin]

histogen alone cannot provide that much regrowth i promise you that, cant go from a NW 3+ to a NW 1

Ok I am convinced now