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I don't know if was your intent, but thanks for the help getting my personal experience thread closed down. I don't know why you didn't avoid the thread if you didn't like it. THe funny thing is I set you pictures of my neck, and you claimed you didn't see anything. I sent the same pictures to Joe at Hasson and Wong and he couldn't believe the damage to my neck. Who do you work for Gillenator? Or do I have this all wrong?