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  • Horseshoe
    Member
    • Dec 2011
    • 50

    two diff patients?

    Originally posted by yeahyeahyeah
    Is it just me or do they look the same?
    They look different but not in a good way.
    The tattoos look different. And in one picture there is a terminal hair growing out of one tattoo and not the other picture. the new hairs are velus or small and thin so it can't be a new hair.

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    • NeedHairASAP
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 1410

      Originally posted by Horseshoe
      They look different but not in a good way.
      The tattoos look different. And in one picture there is a terminal hair growing out of one tattoo and not the other picture. the new hairs are velus or small and thin so it can't be a new hair.
      thats the new tattoo that has the hair "growing" out of it


      I guess it is the same picture now that I look at it

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      • Horseshoe
        Member
        • Dec 2011
        • 50

        Originally posted by NeedHairASAP
        thats the new tattoo that has the hair "growing" out of it


        I guess it is the same picture now that I look at it
        One picture has one tattoo the other has two tatttoos. are you saying that they put a second tattoo on his head? And there is a terminal hair growing out of one tattoo.

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        • Follicle Death Row
          Senior Member
          • May 2011
          • 1066

          Balls. That's disappointing. Oh well. Anyone find the Aderans video where Dr. Washenik shows one of their before and afters? Might make a nice comparison.

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          • NeedHairASAP
            Senior Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 1410

            Originally posted by Horseshoe
            One picture has one tattoo the other has two tatttoos. are you saying that they put a second tattoo on his head? And there is a terminal hair growing out of one tattoo.
            no, the photo says they added another tattoo further into the trial. I'm saying the tattoo with a hair coming out of it is the second tattoo added later. if you identify the first tattoo in this way, then you can look and notice that the positioning of hairs around this first tattoo are the same in both pictures. I'm just saying that its definitely a picture of the same person.

            this might also help you identify new hairs, but, there doesn't seem to be many. this could be a big deal if the hairs started to get bigger, but they dont seem like much currently... and should be thicker by now I would think.





            can someone lay the negative of the second photo on top of the first photo and match the tattoos?

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            • Mojo Risin
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2011
              • 157

              Those results are pathetic.
              I don't know if I should laugh or cry when looking at them.

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              • Pate
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2011
                • 427

                I think if that person's hair grew out you would hardly even notice that section was balding.

                That said, it's definitely the same area and there is definitely a substantial increase in vellus hairs. All depends on whether those hairs become terminal.

                But if their best result is growing small amounts of hair on an already basically full-coverage scalp, they have problems. If those new hairs don't become terminal at 12 months, they have real problems.

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                • jpm
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2011
                  • 250

                  I think what people need to remember is that growing hair takes a long time. in the second picture there seems to be an increase in thin hairs, which will thicken (hopefully) over time. if you think when a baby is born, they have really thin wispy hair and this soon thickens in 18 - 24 months....we just have to be patient.

                  I think a lot of people are comparing to Histogen which showed a cosmetic difference in only 3 months. This is a totally different approach than histogen, and we just have to have patience.

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                  • 67mph
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 218

                    Well said JPM, some folk want a pic of an afro created from a small dose of Replicel, on a Norwood 5 before they truly believe the science.

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                    • jpm
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 250

                      I don't know why people expected to see much regrowth at 6 months. All treatments at the moment usually don't show any cosmetic difference at 6 months (fin, minox etc) so why would people assume replicel would have a cosmetic difference at 6 months.

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                      • john2399
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 527

                        Originally posted by jpm
                        I don't know why people expected to see much regrowth at 6 months. All treatments at the moment usually don't show any cosmetic difference at 6 months (fin, minox etc) so why would people assume replicel would have a cosmetic difference at 6 months.
                        I agree, I see alot more new thin hairs which could turn terminal in 12 months.

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                        • iHope
                          Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 35

                          I agree with positive comments... it's just too early to give opinions atm...

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                          • Horseshoe
                            Member
                            • Dec 2011
                            • 50

                            Originally posted by jpm
                            I don't know why people expected to see much regrowth at 6 months. All treatments at the moment usually don't show any cosmetic difference at 6 months (fin, minox etc) so why would people assume replicel would have a cosmetic difference at 6 months.
                            Right you are. People are impatient, myself included but you hit the nail on the head. It took years to loose, it may take years to get it back. Lets hope they find a way to speed up the process. I'm already bald, i'm getting older and I can't take it anymore....

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                            • UK_
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 2744

                              Originally posted by Horseshoe
                              Right you are. People are impatient, myself included but you hit the nail on the head. It took years to loose, it may take years to get it back. Lets hope they find a way to speed up the process. I'm already bald, i'm getting older and I can't take it anymore....
                              Yes exactly, nobody here can outright deny that the new follicles go into a resting phase before entering anagen, we all know how Finasteride works... dont we?... naysayers?

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                              • NotBelievingIt
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2011
                                • 595

                                Originally posted by Horseshoe
                                Right you are. People are impatient, myself included but you hit the nail on the head. It took years to loose, it may take years to get it back. Lets hope they find a way to speed up the process. I'm already bald, i'm getting older and I can't take it anymore....
                                The reason Finasteride and Minoxidil can take as long as they do is because they have to work up to their potential. Hence the reason you lose what you gained when you stop taking them.

                                Directly creating a new follicile that is immune or "immunizing" existing will directly lead to normal growth cycles. It won't have to "build up to" anything. It will just be.

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