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  • Jazz1
    Inactive
    • Aug 2012
    • 1598

    Originally posted by warner8
    hi Jazz, i've been on susans fomula for 2 months now. Had what looks like a big shed, and waiting for regrowth. I also use her glut plus bitcoin, and melatonin 1%.

    I only use 12% minox in my formula (plus AA, retain a, cortisone) , as I was wanted to see how much i could tolerate jumping from a 5%. After this bottle is over, should I go to 15%?
    Hey firstly do you use a DHT blocker like Finetseride/Dutesteride or RU58841?

    In Regards to your question I would avoid jumping to 15%, as that will cause another shed and you will be shedding again and waiting for regrowth again! Plus 12.5% is cheaper!

    Do you still use 5% minoxidil rotated with Susans 12.5% mixture?

    What's your full Regime?

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    • warner8
      Senior Member
      • Jan 2015
      • 352

      hi jazz, my regimen is

      Susan mix: 12% minox, AA, tretonin, hydroxortisone, susuans 1% meltatonin, susans biotin + glutathione. I apply the minox formula first, and then add drops of the biotin+ glut. I only use the melatonin at night, although i have to admit not as religiously as the first two. I also take generic fin 1mg, once a day.
      I have been on the fin since last June 2014, and susans formula since March 9, 2015 of this year. My previous regimen for the past 4 years was just generic minox at 5% when I was aged 24, at around age 27 the minox stopped effect, and i began to lose hairs rapidly. Thats when i started 1 mg fin, and the same 5% minox, but was not seeing any results in terms of hair growth, hence i got susans formula. Like I said, I've been on it 2 months now and think I've gone through a shed because my hair looks worst that ever. I just hope it means that i am going through a shed, and not that the formula or the fin is no longer working



      Originally posted by Jazz1
      Hey firstly do you use a DHT blocker like Finetseride/Dutesteride or RU58841?

      In Regards to
      your question I would avoid jumping to 15%, as that will cause another shed and you will be shedding again and waiting for regrowth again! Plus 12.5% is cheaper!

      Do you still use 5% minoxidil rotated with Susans 12.5% mixture?

      What's your full Regime?

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      • diffuse
        Member
        • Feb 2015
        • 35

        Hey Jazz!
        I need your advice. I've been using minox 5% since september 2014, I got great regrowth until January than I've been through a huge shed in February than i got regrowth and now it's May and shedding again (second HUGE shedding in 7 months). I also started using RU 60-70mg in February when i saw my hair thinning. Now When i started noticing shedding i hopped on fin as well (i was already planning to do that) so i'm using fin for 2 weeks now. What do you think? Why are these sheds happening? If you know Irishpride from the other forum, i got sheds like him except i never stopped any treatment. I'm using finpecia 1mg EOD bought from pharmacy2home do you think it's fine or i should buy propecia?

        FULL regimen:
        RU 70 mg in ethanol/pg at night
        minox 5% at night
        Finpecia EOD
        Nizoral sometimes

        Thanks

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        • warner8
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2015
          • 352

          Hi Jazz, I've been using the generic brand fin from the pharmacy since last june. i would say it stabilized my hairloss as it did not look like it was getting any worst or any better. I started susans formula with the 12% minox March 9 th 2015. I started buying my generic fin at Costco pharmacy, a wholesale pharmacy in the US for a fraction of the cost beginning at the end of march. so both were around the same time.

          have i noticed new growth in the last two months, no. but i have seen more hairless, which i assumed meant thats susans formula was giving me a shed. Now I am unsure what do. Continue with this regimen and this generic fin, and see if i have regrowth by the end of the summer, or go to bran name fin.

          Originally posted by Jazz1
          Hey the generic finesteride you use has this halted your hairloss minus the minoxidl shed?

          To me it is 2 options either your going through a shed, so i would ride out your current regime, have you noticed any hairs growing? Or the finesteride you are using is not working anymore!

          You need to weigh out the options, if the finesteride has stopped working than Dutasteride or RU58841 is your finall powerfull option.

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          • Plan C
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2013
            • 341

            Originally posted by Jazz1
            Right, those key words regarding you switching Finesteride brand, I know several people throughout the years who have switched brands and go through major sheds!

            I can not speak for Generic stuff but from day one I have always used Merck propecia! You can search through google in regards to switching Finesteride brands, most people will tell you the disaster and major sheds! I would only stick to one brand from day one as the last thing you want to be doing is switching brands and going through major sheds which may or may not grow back!
            Jazz - do you still use Susan's formula? I've finally run out of the two bottles I bought last October and was wondering if a) you still recommend the product and b) you think we will still have issues with customs when getting it delivered to the UK?

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            • warner8
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2015
              • 352

              I'm in the same situation as you. I'm almost out of first bottle.

              hows your experience thus far with susans stuff? shed? regrowth? how long have u been on it?
              Originally posted by Plan C
              Jazz - do you still use Susan's formula? I've finally run out of the two bottles I bought last October and was wondering if a) you still recommend the product and b) you think we will still have issues with customs when getting it delivered to the UK?

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              • Plan C
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2013
                • 341

                Originally posted by warner8
                I'm in the same situation as you. I'm almost out of first bottle.

                hows your experience thus far with susans stuff? shed? regrowth? how long have u been on it?
                As mentioned, have been using it since last October. Immediately noticed the vellus hairs at my temples gaining length. Recently shed them all and now have 5 or so new dark hairs growing at my temples. It's taken 8 months but I recon this stuff actually works and I'm usually extremely pessimistic about hair loss treatments. I think part of the reason for this sudden regrowth is the fact I've switched from derma rolling once a month to once a week.

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                • warner8
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2015
                  • 352

                  Whats is in your mix.

                  I have 12% minox
                  AA
                  retina a
                  hydrocortisone

                  i was thinking of bumping up to 15% minox. I was afraid of side effects jumping from 5% so i thought 12% was a good start, as recommended by susan herself. Also when did you notice a shed? I think I'm going through a shed currently, no regrowth as yet. been using since march 9 2015.

                  Originally posted by Plan C
                  As mentioned, have been using it since last October. Immediately noticed the vellus hairs at my temples gaining length. Recently shed them all and now have 5 or so new dark hairs growing at my temples. It's taken 8 months but I recon this stuff actually works and I'm usually extremely pessimistic about hair loss treatments. I think part of the reason for this sudden regrowth is the fact I've switched from derma rolling once a month to once a week.

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                  • Plan C
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2013
                    • 341

                    Originally posted by warner8
                    Whats is in your mix.

                    I have 12% minox
                    AA
                    retina a
                    hydrocortisone

                    i was thinking of bumping up to 15% minox. I was afraid of side effects jumping from 5% so i thought 12% was a good start, as recommended by susan herself. Also when did you notice a shed?
                    Minoxidil 15%, Azelaic Acid 1.5%, Progesterone 0.25%, Tretinoin 0.025%, Hydrocortisone 0.1%, Finasteride 0.1%, Biotin 3%

                    In general, I barely get any sides from treatments - not even from dut or RU. So I've only had noticeable shedding once - when I started derma rolling more frequently, which was about a month ago.

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                    • warner8
                      Senior Member
                      • Jan 2015
                      • 352

                      do you recommend derma rolling?


                      Originally posted by Plan C
                      Minoxidil 15%, Azelaic Acid 1.5%, Progesterone 0.25%, Tretinoin 0.025%, Hydrocortisone 0.1%, Finasteride 0.1%, Biotin 3%

                      In general, I barely get any sides from treatments - not even from dut or RU. So I've only had noticeable shedding once - when I started derma rolling more frequently, which was about a month ago.

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                      • Plan C
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2013
                        • 341

                        Originally posted by warner8
                        do you recommend derma rolling?
                        Yes. It definitely helps with absorption of topical treatments - you can tell because less residue is left on your scalp. However, it is widely accepted that a 1.5mm is the best to use and they are really painful on the skin. To me it hurt as much as getting a tattoo done.

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                        • warner8
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2015
                          • 352

                          do it make the scalp bleed? is there scabbing?
                          Originally posted by Plan C
                          Yes. It definitely helps with absorption of topical treatments - you can tell because less residue is left on your scalp. However, it is widely accepted that a 1.5mm is the best to use and they are really painful on the skin. To me it hurt as much as getting a tattoo done.

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                          • Plan C
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2013
                            • 341

                            Originally posted by warner8
                            do it make the scalp bleed? is there scabbing?
                            Pinpricks of blood. No scabbing.

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                            • Seuxin
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2014
                              • 223

                              Only 0.1% fina ?
                              Hasson An Wong use a 2.5% fina in a gel !!

                              I use Azelaic Acid at 7% in a liquide lotion
                              1.5% is very poor !

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                              • warner8
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2015
                                • 352

                                won't too much acid burn?

                                Originally posted by Seuxin
                                Only 0.1% fina ?
                                Hasson An Wong use a 2.5% fina in a gel !!

                                I use Azelaic Acid at 7% in a liquide lotion
                                1.5% is very poor !

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