Ahm you should actually do this as fast as you can and dont worry we dont want to see donor pictures etc, all we wanna hear is
" Damn finally my hair stays there where it should"
Also you are nowhere near to be a NW6 guy and take a look at what Gho created on this Den Saunders guy who is a very bad case of NW6 with a complety shiny forehead without any hairs left.
Alo if you start early, you have the chance to get to your hair loss long before you go completely bald.
I estimate that a normal NW6 guy would nee 6 HST sessions with each time 1700 or more Grafts. With each time 1700 Grafts this would sum up to 10.200 Grafts which is more then enough to get you a very good NW2 good density coverage without comb over.
Someone here said 9000 Grafts is he magic number for a full blown NW6, so i think you are good for it.
Btw sad to her your MS story :(
10-05-2011 09:38 AM
NeedHairASAP
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Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT
The thing is in six years I might be completely bald. I've never lost hair at the speed I am now. It only took a couple of months to lose a whole bunch of my transplanted hair and go from almost a normal hairline to at least Norwood 2 or even early N3 and it doesn't look like it's stopping as I can see the right temple has lost even more hair over the past couple of months. I just can't imagine myself bald. I'd lose my mind. I couldn't bear thinning in my hairline and temples and that's why I had all those HTs as I wanted to be proactive in my fight against this curse. No way in hell I was going to wait to see bare skin (scalp) on top of my head. I really couldn't afford to spend 20 some thousand dollars but it wasn't really a choice. So now I don't know what I'd do if the loss doesn't stop. I'd probably become the biggest drug user there is. A couple of years ago I was prepared to accept the possibility that I had MS but I'd NEVER EVER in a million years accept baldness and I know there is no way in hell I'd be able to deal with it. It is just too scary for me to think about it for a second.
I'm willing to try anything at this moment. I'm still in shock from this but I'm gonna have to do something about it. Maybe contact several doctors -including Gho. I'd be willing to participate in any experimental stuff, cancer or no cancer as I see no point in living if life is nothing but suffering. I really hope Gho is the answer even if it's a temporary one.
I know this probably offers zero relief, but at least you didnt lose a bunch of hair and then have the grafts out in the open looking all weird
I'm in between emailing Gho's clinic trying to figure out how many procedures they think I could have. They seem to use a lot of automated/prefabricated email phrases as I've gotten similar responses again and again.
I'm having trouble getting an answer about if they do transplants to the temple region. I think a hair transplant without taking the temples into consideration leads to crap results.
I have/will have severe hair loss so it may be hard for them to guess my maximum procedures. Hopefully they'll give some indication/info about maximum procedures.
10-05-2011 10:37 AM
Follicle Death Row
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Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT
The thing is in six years I might be completely bald. I've never lost hair at the speed I am now. It only took a couple of months to lose a whole bunch of my transplanted hair and go from almost a normal hairline to at least Norwood 2 or even early N3 and it doesn't look like it's stopping as I can see the right temple has lost even more hair over the past couple of months. I just can't imagine myself bald. I'd lose my mind. I couldn't bear thinning in my hairline and temples and that's why I had all those HTs as I wanted to be proactive in my fight against this curse. No way in hell I was going to wait to see bare skin (scalp) on top of my head. I really couldn't afford to spend 20 some thousand dollars but it wasn't really a choice. So now I don't know what I'd do if the loss doesn't stop. I'd probably become the biggest drug user there is. A couple of years ago I was prepared to accept the possibility that I had MS but I'd NEVER EVER in a million years accept baldness and I know there is no way in hell I'd be able to deal with it. It is just too scary for me to think about it for a second.
I'm willing to try anything at this moment. I'm still in shock from this but I'm gonna have to do something about it. Maybe contact several doctors -including Gho. I'd be willing to participate in any experimental stuff, cancer or no cancer as I see no point in living if life is nothing but suffering. I really hope Gho is the answer even if it's a temporary one.
I know 6 years is a long time so Gho may well be a good option now to tide you over. Something to consider anyway. The standard session size sounds like it could help shore up the hairline and frontal third in general. Give it some thought and look into it.
10-06-2011 01:32 AM
VictimOfDHT
Thanks again, guys. I really needed someone to give me some kind of hope that I still have another option and I really hope Gho is that option. But the fact that I keep losing my transplanted hair is scaring me. I mean what if I get another HT then lose all or most of the hair again ? If the donor site does regenerate (hair) then at least I won't have to worry about depleting my donor hair -for a while- but I still would be depleting my savings. I barely make enough and it would kill me to lose more money for nothing. I only wish there were a way to know if any new transplanted hair would be lost or not. I just cant afford to lose even 50 hairs for nothing.
Needhairasap, that's discouraging if they didn't reply to your email . How are people supposed to contact them ? People aren't gonna call in from all over the world to ask questions.
Anyway, I don't see why they wouldn't do the temple and hairline area.
Richard, I don't have MS but two years ago some stupid so-called "specialist" told me I had it, however MRI scans came back negative. But I just wanted to say that I was prepared to accept having MS but no way in hell I would accept going bald. As terrible as MS is, I still think baldness would mess up my life more.
10-06-2011 06:16 AM
RichardDawkins
Of course nobody can say if those hairs will sustain ovr time, but dont get me wrong, i have a gut feeling that tells me that with HST it sholdnt be a problem to let your hairs survive for until you die.
So i mean you had FUE done, FUT is not an option for obvious reasons, all you can do now is doing HST at this point in time.
As you say, worst case scenario you lose those transplanted hairs but the donor recharges so you didnt lose nything at all ecept money of course.
When those hairs survive, you actually got a win win situation except the money :-)
Well the reason why i think that this will work is simple, i saw some really really sad burning victims with severe third grade degree burns on their face and head. And Gho managed to get hairs to grow there in extensive burned dead scar tissue.
10-06-2011 10:34 PM
Flowers
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Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT
Thanks again, guys. I really needed someone to give me some kind of hope that I still have another option and I really hope Gho is that option. But the fact that I keep losing my transplanted hair is scaring me. I mean what if I get another HT then lose all or most of the hair again ? If the donor site does regenerate (hair) then at least I won't have to worry about depleting my donor hair -for a while- but I still would be depleting my savings. I barely make enough and it would kill me to lose more money for nothing. I only wish there were a way to know if any new transplanted hair would be lost or not. I just cant afford to lose even 50 hairs for nothing.
Needhairasap, that's discouraging if they didn't reply to your email . How are people supposed to contact them ? People aren't gonna call in from all over the world to ask questions.
Anyway, I don't see why they wouldn't do the temple and hairline area.
Richard, I don't have MS but two years ago some stupid so-called "specialist" told me I had it, however MRI scans came back negative. But I just wanted to say that I was prepared to accept having MS but no way in hell I would accept going bald. As terrible as MS is, I still think baldness would mess up my life more.
Hey maybe a shot in the dark but do you ever see those NW7 guys who's nape hair has receded up the back of their neck/head? Maybe you're one of those guys and had hairs that were gonna fall out anyway transplanted. I mean yeah that would totally suck but at least if that's the case you know there arent any other serious medical concerns. Just a thought
10-06-2011 11:54 PM
VictimOfDHT
" i have a gut feeling that tells me that with HST it sholdnt be a problem to let your hairs survive for until you die." I hope that's the case, Richard. But honestly, I don't see how Gho's transplants would be any different than the other transplants I've had -except for the regeneration of hairs in the donor site- especially knowing that my last 2 HTs were done by one of the best doctors in the field here in western Canada but I'm just gonna hang on to that hope anyway. It's the only thing left for me. If those hairs last a few years or at least a couple of years until some other treatment is available, it would be worth the money.
Flowers, that kind of baldness (N7) doesn't run in my family. The other thing, those transplanted hairs don't fall out gradually like native ones would. Like I said in previous posts, those hairs grow just fine for a random number of years then most of them start falling out all of a sudden and usually within a short period of time (2-3 months) and they dont look like they're thinning at the tip. They look 100% thick and healthy.
10-07-2011 12:56 AM
CVAZBAR
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Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT
" i have a gut feeling that tells me that with HST it sholdnt be a problem to let your hairs survive for until you die." I hope that's the case, Richard. But honestly, I don't see how Gho's transplants would be any different than the other transplants I've had -except for the regeneration of hairs in the donor site- especially knowing that my last 2 HTs were done by one of the best doctors in the field here in western Canada but I'm just gonna hang on to that hope anyway. It's the only thing left for me. If those hairs last a few years or at least a couple of years until some other treatment is available, it would be worth the money.
Flowers, that kind of baldness (N7) doesn't run in my family. The other thing, those transplanted hairs don't fall out gradually like native ones would. Like I said in previous posts, those hairs grow just fine for a random number of years then most of them start falling out all of a sudden and usually within a short period of time (2-3 months) and they dont look like they're thinning at the tip. They look 100% thick and healthy.
So your hair is cool for a couple of years and then it's starts shedding? Maybe they grow back? Are you still on finasteride? If your hair sticks for several years, than it's probably something you can fix.
10-07-2011 04:13 PM
VictimOfDHT
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Originally Posted by CVAZBAR
So your hair is cool for a couple of years and then it's starts shedding? Maybe they grow back? Are you still on finasteride? If your hair sticks for several years, than it's probably something you can fix.
I had my fourth HT ( around 1700 grafts) in 2004 and all was well until around May 2009 and that's when I had a sudden rapid shed that left my hairline thinner especially the right temple. Went back to the same doctor who decided that 800 grafts would be more than enough to fix the hairline again. Got the HT around Xmas 2009 but last Feb (just over a year after that last HT) things started going downhill again only this time it's much much worse. Massive shed and now I'm a whole lot thinner. Read something here about "seasonal shedding" and it kinda gave me hope maybe that's what it was and decided to wait it out. Well, it's been 8 months now and NO hair growing back and actually have lost even more hair. So, no doubt in my mind this isn't seasonal shedding. This is a permanent loss or I would've got the hair from the previous HTs back. This is like a mystery. Even those who end up losing their transplanted hair tend to lose it gradually over time. My loss happens so quickly (usually within 2 months) and like I said it happens at random (in as short as 1 year after the HT or as long as 5).
Yes I'm still using Fin and Minox.
Richard, actually all my HTs were FUTs not FUEs. That's why I was considering FUE this time for obvious reasons but I keep hearing the survival rate of the follicles is not good.
10-07-2011 04:30 PM
CVAZBAR
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Originally Posted by VictimOfDHT
I had my fourth HT ( around 1700 grafts) in 2004 and all was well until around May 2009 and that's when I had a sudden rapid shed that left my hairline thinner especially the right temple. Went back to the same doctor who decided that 800 grafts would be more than enough to fix the hairline again. Got the HT around Xmas 2009 but last Feb (just over a year after that last HT) things started going downhill again only this time it's much much worse. Massive shed and now I'm a whole lot thinner. Read something here about "seasonal shedding" and it kinda gave me hope maybe that's what it was and decided to wait it out. Well, it's been 8 months now and NO hair growing back and actually have lost even more hair. So, no doubt in my mind this isn't seasonal shedding. This is a permanent loss or I would've got the hair from the previous HTs back. This is like a mystery. Even those who end up losing their transplanted hair tend to lose it gradually over time. My loss happens so quickly (usually within 2 months) and like I said it happens
at random (in as short as 1 year after the HT or as long as 5).
Yes I'm still using Fin and Minox.
Richard, actually all my HTs were FUTs not FUEs. That's why I was considering FUE this time for obvious reasons but I keep hearing the survival rate of the follicles is not good.
So you don't think it has nothing to do with your DHT blocker? How have you responded to Fin? Did you use fin before any HT? Did it halt your native hair?
