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  • NeedHairASAP
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 1410

    Lots Of Ideas on the Forum: So Crowdfund

    Lots of ideas here. Lots of people knowledgable in experimentation.

    crowdfund some trials in a foreign land.

    Foreign land, building for testing, 6 employees, chems, compensation for testees... could even outsource testing to a third party tester, just design protocal and provide the materials
  • Californication
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2013
    • 134

    #2
    Honestly one of the most plausible, less expensive ideas is to find someone who is a chemist, there may be a bald brother out there on one of the forums we know or if we can just find someone, hell someone who just graduated, to give us some professional advice/experimentation on 1-2 individuals, maybe himself if he's willing, to tell us or find an appropriate vehicle for CB-03-01.

    We tell them the structure and maybe they can give us some advice on how best it can reach the follicle. This is a game changer for everyone who can't take fin right now and is huge for the young guys. Finding a vehicle shouldn't be that hard to figure out for an actual chemist I would think since they probably have an idea of what might work from the outset.

    Or maybe pay someone who can show us how to set up an ionophoresis device/traditional vehicle if the chemist thinks that is a viable and safe method (as safe as using CB regularly)

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    • Julian P
      Member
      • May 2013
      • 34

      #3
      Originally posted by Californication
      Honestly one of the most plausible, less expensive ideas is to find someone who is a chemist, there may be a bald brother out there on one of the forums we know or if we can just find someone, hell someone who just graduated, to give us some professional advice/experimentation on 1-2 individuals, maybe himself if he's willing, to tell us or find an appropriate vehicle for CB-03-01.

      We tell them the structure and maybe they can give us some advice on how best it can reach the follicle. This is a game changer for everyone who can't take fin right now and is huge for the young guys. Finding a vehicle shouldn't be that hard to figure out for an actual chemist I would think since they probably have an idea of what might work from the outset.

      Or maybe pay someone who can show us how to set up an ionophoresis device/traditional vehicle if the chemist thinks that is a viable and safe method (as safe as using CB regularly)
      First real good and workable idea I read in the whole crowdfunding discussion.

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      • hellouser
        Senior Member
        • May 2012
        • 4423

        #4
        We've already got Kane producing CB for us.

        Crowdfunding should be set for Aderans to get back on its feet, far better treatment than anything else on the market today.

        Total fvcking bullshit how they got their funding pulled. I'm so PISSED.

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        • Axel
          Member
          • Dec 2012
          • 45

          #5
          Originally posted by hellouser
          We've already got Kane producing CB for us.

          Crowdfunding should be set for Aderans to get back on its feet, far better treatment than anything else on the market today.

          Total fvcking bullshit how they got their funding pulled. I'm so PISSED.
          I can set up a cutting-edge crowdfunding website in 30 minutes (I have launched a couple before). We just have to think about the scope of the project and what would be the funds for... You help me with the content and I'll help you with the tech...

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          • hellouser
            Senior Member
            • May 2012
            • 4423

            #6
            Originally posted by Axel
            I can set up a cutting-edge crowdfunding website in 30 minutes (I have launched a couple before). We just have to think about the scope of the project and what would be the funds for... You help me with the content and I'll help you with the tech...
            I've touched on a campaign execution like this before;

            A user by the name of Roger_that on the forum Hairsite contacted Aderans and here is the reponse. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just called them this morning, and spoke with someone in their Regulatory Affairs department


            Read the comments between me and Desmond. I'm in advertising/marketing, I could definitely help with a launch like this... and I want to do it. All funds should go to Aderans though.

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            • brunobald
              Senior Member
              • Jul 2013
              • 172

              #7
              A seperate website and forum would be a good idea to better organise data and disscussion. There could be seperate forum sections for different project ie. transplant, prp, cell therepy, dermaroller.....

              I'm am prototype engineer with a workshop with lathe, cnc mills, 3d printers and such. I could offer prototyping service for any Ideas people might have for new tools or experiments.

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              • Axel
                Member
                • Dec 2012
                • 45

                #8
                Originally posted by hellouser
                I've touched on a campaign execution like this before;

                A user by the name of Roger_that on the forum Hairsite contacted Aderans and here is the reponse. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I just called them this morning, and spoke with someone in their Regulatory Affairs department


                Read the comments between me and Desmond. I'm in advertising/marketing, I could definitely help with a launch like this... and I want to do it. All funds should go to Aderans though.
                I see, great convo and also a great idea!... and it is highly doable! In fact I think hairloss industry is the only industry where a crowdfunding initiative hasnt disrupted the market. Just look what is happening:

                Crowdfunding has been a godsend for getting lots of projects off the ground that otherwise may not have attracted dollars from traditional powers-that-be in retail manufacturing, music, movies, and the like. So at a time when the federal dollars that typically fund medical research are under more constraint than ever, doesn't it make sense to bring that same model that has worked so well for wristwatches and rock albums to work for curing breast cancer and new methods for lung transplants? That's what Molly Lindquist believes, so she founded a non-profit organization called Consano for allowing people to browse through vetted medical research projects at select universities and research institutions, and then contribute funding directly to the ones they find compelling.



                Why can't we do it for Hair Loss?

                As I said I can do the tech and design a site that would kick some asses, but as I am not native english speaker I can't help with a polished content, just with the design of the campaign in order to make it successful.

                I think the best idea would be to think firstly about the product tiers, what is going to get the people who pledge X amount (priority treatment when research is finished, access to interact with the researchers, etc):


                Secondly, after the product tier is defined, get the funds through a third trusted party. And when we have some big bucks to show to Companies/Researchers, then issue a RFP where the Companies/ResearcherTeams try to convince us (the hairloss community) why their solution is the best and will work...

                Imagine what could we achieve if we all the forums unite and get some big millions... I mean, a f*cking watch got $10M. We could easily double that amount...


                Originally posted by brunobald
                A seperate website and forum would be a good idea to better organise data and disscussion. There could be seperate forum sections for different project ie. transplant, prp, cell therepy, dermaroller.....
                A seperate website including:

                - A wiki (all the process must be visible)
                - A new forum
                - A Q&A site stackoverflow style

                And all under a catchy domain like: letscurebaldness.com (it is available btw)

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                • hellouser
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2012
                  • 4423

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Axel
                  I see, great convo and also a great idea!... and it is highly doable! In fact I think hairloss industry is the only industry where a crowdfunding initiative hasnt disrupted the market. Just look what is happening:

                  Crowdfunding has been a godsend for getting lots of projects off the ground that otherwise may not have attracted dollars from traditional powers-that-be in retail manufacturing, music, movies, and the like. So at a time when the federal dollars that typically fund medical research are under more constraint than ever, doesn't it make sense to bring that same model that has worked so well for wristwatches and rock albums to work for curing breast cancer and new methods for lung transplants? That's what Molly Lindquist believes, so she founded a non-profit organization called Consano for allowing people to browse through vetted medical research projects at select universities and research institutions, and then contribute funding directly to the ones they find compelling.



                  Why can't we do it for Hair Loss?

                  As I said I can do the tech and design a site that would kick some asses, but as I am not native english speaker I can't help with a polished content, just with the design of the campaign in order to make it successful.

                  I think the best idea would be to think firstly about the product tiers, what is going to get the people who pledge X amount (priority treatment when research is finished, access to interact with the researchers, etc):


                  Secondly, after the product tier is defined, get the funds through a third trusted party. And when we have some big bucks to show to Companies/Researchers, then issue a RFP where the Companies/ResearcherTeams try to convince us (the hairloss community) why their solution is the best and will work...

                  Imagine what could we achieve if we all the forums unite and get some big millions... I mean, a f*cking watch got $10M. We could easily double that amount...




                  A seperate website including:

                  - A wiki (all the process must be visible)
                  - A new forum
                  - A Q&A site stackoverflow style

                  And all under a catchy domain like: letscurebaldness.com (it is available btw)
                  I'm 100% game on this. Are you capable of doing any PHP work? Perhaps customizing a wordpress site and getting it configured to our needs? I can easily do the design as graphic design is my forte, I could come up with a number of concepts and branding and you could do the technical part of it (Im familiar with php and MySQL, but its not my strongest area). It'd be nice to have a site where we can continually and easily post articles but also maintain something like a directory of all current and future treatments.

                  I think Aderans should get #1 priority mainly because they have the closest working product for a north american release, which would benefit us most.

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                  • Axel
                    Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 45

                    #10
                    Originally posted by hellouser
                    I'm 100% game on this. Are you capable of doing any PHP work? Perhaps customizing a wordpress site and getting it configured to our needs? I can easily do the design as graphic design is my forte, I could come up with a number of concepts and branding and you could do the technical part of it (Im familiar with php and MySQL, but its not my strongest area). It'd be nice to have a site where we can continually and easily post articles but also maintain something like a directory of all current and future treatments.

                    I think Aderans should get #1 priority mainly because they have the closest working product for a north american release, which would benefit us most.
                    Not a big fan of PHP but yes, I could do it. But my combat tools are modern web frameworks (Rails, Django, Nodejs, etc...). So I prefer the modern stuff. Anyways, since we would need one, we should set up a blog with wordpress, since it is the preferred blog engine, thats not a problem... For the crowdfunding site I already have re-usable source code for Rails (kickstarter.com itself also uses Rails)...

                    About the funds going to Aderans... what if we setup the campaign and here in Europe teams like Roland Lauster's team decide to grab the money and start working on a solution for the market?. I wouldnt limit our options to a company/team, at least initially. This can stimulate competitivity... and that's good.

                    For the directory the best solution is as I said above, a wiki

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                    • hellouser
                      Senior Member
                      • May 2012
                      • 4423

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Axel
                      Not a big fan of PHP but yes, I could do it. But my combat tools are modern web frameworks (Rails, Django, Nodejs, etc...). So I prefer the modern stuff. Anyways, since we would need one, we should set up a blog with wordpress, since it is the preferred blog engine, thats not a problem... For the crowdfunding site I already have re-usable source code for Rails (kickstarter.com itself also uses Rails)...

                      About the funds going to Aderans... what if we setup the campaign and here in Europe teams like Roland Lauster's team decide to grab the money and start working on a solution for the market?. I wouldnt limit our options to a company/team, at least initially. This can stimulate competitivity... and that's good.
                      I think Lauster's team is funded by government since its a University. Not sure if they'd more funding, but we could always inquire?

                      I'll leave the framework/coding to you though. First things we'd need to tackle are:

                      1. Name
                      2. Logo
                      3. Brand/Look and Feel

                      Then:
                      4. Strategy
                      5. Website
                      6. Social Media (facebook, twitter, etc)
                      7. Reaching out to media and news sources and gaining momentum.

                      Not an easy task, but easily doable. I just want my hair back... good god, is it so much to ask for?

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                      • Axel
                        Member
                        • Dec 2012
                        • 45

                        #12
                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        I think Lauster's team is funded by government since its a University. Not sure if they'd more funding, but we could always inquire?
                        Exactly. We would send the RFP to all the teams we know have been working on this. Thing is the proposal must be serious, so probably with the money we should setup a legal entity in USA or EU. (In UK it's cheap, quick and easy)

                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        I'll leave the framework/coding to you though. First things we'd need to tackle are:

                        1. Name
                        2. Logo
                        3. Brand/Look and Feel

                        Then:
                        4. Strategy
                        5. Website
                        6. Social Media (facebook, twitter, etc)
                        7. Reaching out to media and news sources and gaining momentum.
                        The most important point is 4. The other points are soooo easy they're laughable. I will setup a dedicated site/forum this weekend so we can discuss there. Less talk, more action.


                        Originally posted by hellouser
                        Not an easy task, but easily doable. I just want my hair back... good god, is it so much to ask for?
                        We're all together in this bro.

                        I'm almost NW3 with mild diffuse thinning and clearly heading to hell.. We can think of this as another "try". People here has tried CB, RU, Toco, starting dermaroller, and now... why don't we try a Crowdfunding Campaign? The OP (and you) have had a great idea.

                        Been lurking this forum (and others like HS) almost every night for 3 or 4 years and I'm just TIRED. This industry has clearly stagnated, we need real community driven initiatives that push innovation forward. They're doing it for other diseases here on http://www.medstartr.com/ and other many places, so why not for MPB?

                        I hope the community likes the idea, we don't have many other options left... we need to tackle this ourselves.

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                        • hellouser
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2012
                          • 4423

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Axel
                          Exactly. We would send the RFP to all the teams we know have been working on this. Thing is the proposal must be serious, so probably with the money we should setup a legal entity in USA or EU. (In UK it's cheap, quick and easy)



                          The most important point is 4. The other points are soooo easy they're laughable. I will setup a dedicated site/forum this weekend so we can discuss there. Less talk, more action.




                          We're all together in this bro.

                          I'm almost NW3 with mild diffuse thinning and clearly heading to hell.. We can think of this as another "try". People here has tried CB, RU, Toco, starting dermaroller, and now... why don't we try a Crowdfunding Campaign? The OP (and you) have had a great idea.

                          Been lurking this forum (and others like HS) almost every night for 3 or 4 years and I'm just TIRED. This industry has clearly stagnated, we need real community driven initiatives that push innovation forward. They're doing it for other diseases here on http://www.medstartr.com/, why not for MPB?

                          I hope the community likes the idea, we don't have many other options left... we need to tackle this ourselves.
                          I'm at work at the moment, so I can't type up everything I want to, however I *will* touch base with you in this thread soon.

                          I believe we definitely can get something done about this.

                          The worst problem is this:

                          Whatever we do fund, the FDA is going to be a complete fvcking bitch about it and demand YEARS of trials.

                          Most of us don't have years to waste on the FDA constantly fvcking us over, we need action NOW before we're not left with any hair.

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                          • Hicks
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2013
                            • 291

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Axel
                            We're all together in this bro.

                            I'm almost NW3 with mild diffuse thinning and clearly heading to hell.. We can think of this as another "try". People here has tried CB, RU, Toco, starting dermaroller, and now... why don't we try a Crowdfunding Campaign? The OP (and you) have had a great idea.

                            Been lurking this forum (and others like HS) almost every night for 3 or 4 years and I'm just TIRED. This industry has clearly stagnated, we need real community driven initiatives that push innovation forward. They're doing it for other diseases here on http://www.medstartr.com/ and other many places, so why not for MPB?

                            I hope the community likes the idea, we don't have many other options left... we need to tackle this ourselves.
                            Make a kickstarter.com raise the funds have some goals and who ever reaches those goals gets the money. Make a competition. Either medication or regrowth of donor area all at the cost a normal person can pay. Call it The Manhattan Project or Project F%*k The FDA

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                            • ar50
                              Senior Member
                              • May 2013
                              • 115

                              #15
                              Hey guys I was long off because I am really depressed right now.
                              But I read this thread and I really want to help: with money and with anything else.
                              How can we communicate the best?

                              Should we choose a project leader?
                              And which idea are we going to fund?

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