How come some really rich and famous people do not get hair transplants?

[baldozer]

Where are you getting your 'some dont care' stats from?

That statement means nothing either. 'Some' ? As opposed to 'others' ? How insightful.

As for the 2% , I made it up off the top of my head. I do admit its obviously an exaggeration.

I dont know, but its not some 30 or 40% . I would make an honest guess from what i see walking around.

I would ball park that an honest to goodness Norwood 4 or more by age 40? Less than 20% . If that. Honestly. Maybe 15%

Norwood 4 by age 50? Yeah, probably 35 to 45% .

But something where actually shaving your head looks BETTER than having hair ? This entails Norwood 5 or greater in my opinon so that HT cannot honestly give you a full head of hair.

But even then I see guys accept a receded hairline , like Tom Hanks has.

So again, if you guys want to make some post going.........guys would rather shave their heads than be bald......

Well ........bearded ladies would rather make money joining the circus than shave the beard...............

In other words, how many guys go Norwood 5 or 6 or 7 so that they are utterly beyond reproach . The percentage is.......not many under 40 certainly.

You guys have to think about this. Finasteride and minoxidol have proven to slow down and probably stop hair loss.

So even if you think you might go Norwood 5 or worse, heading it off in your 20s or 30s will save you from having to make that 'shave head' last option.

Finasteride has side effects and costs money. Not every balding men is willing to take the risks of having side effects such as insomnia and ED and some are not willing to spend money on propecia for the whole of their lives. Also married bald/balding men are less concerned about being bald, so might not opt for HT. Another reason some men might not go for a HT is for the scars and dots it leaves. It pretty much cuts out the option of shaving one's head after a transplant. Think about the situation where a HT goes wrong, the man would have to hide it under a hat for the rest of his life. And also like you said, many men might not be more than NW4 by 40, but many progress toward NW5/6/7 later in their lives, so unless they stop the progression by taking propecia, they would look funny when the rest of their hair fall out.

[BigThinker]

Finasteride has side effects and costs money..

Both of which are negligible if you're calculated about it.

[baldozer]

Both of which are negligible if you're calculated about it.

How much does it cost. From what I've read, its like 700 dollars per year, so if you use it from 20 to 50, you spend 700 * 30, which is around Twenty Thousand dollars! Now Twenty Thousand Dollars is certainly not negligible! And about the side effects, no one knows the long term effects of propecia, since no one has taken it for more than 15 years. Any thing which messes up your hormones cannot be taken lightly.

[Kirby_]

^ my finasteride costs 6 Pounds a year! Hardly breaking the bank, but then not everyone lives in a country with a health service, unfortunately.

As for long term, I'm quite confident that no one will need to use finasteride by 2023.

[ravegrover]

You guys represent the 2% of these guys who go norwood 6 at age 25?

I am 38 and NW III - IV

[BigThinker]

How much does it cost. From what I've read, its like 700 dollars per year, so if you use it from 20 to 50, you spend 700 * 30, which is around Twenty Thousand dollars! Now Twenty Thousand Dollars is certainly not negligible! And about the side effects, no one knows the long term effects of propecia, since no one has taken it for more than 15 years. Any thing which messes up your hormones cannot be taken lightly.

I'm cutting 5mg generics from inhouse ($27 for 30 pills). Low, intermittent dose is probably most appropriate for a dude my age, and results in a extremely cheap medication. As a grad school student, I really don't have the funding to take Propecia. The fact that I've dropped near $300 on visiting a GP, dermatologist, having 2 blood tests, and had 1 bottle of 2% keto (all with insurance) is troubling enough.

I'm not trying to make light of the sides. I'm just going to stand by the literature on this one. And, yes, the long-term sides are unknown which is a little troubling, but if that were a strong enough reason not to use a drug trusted by the scientific and medical communities, then no one would ever take anything long-term.

http://www.inhousepharmacy.biz/p-178-fincar-5mg.aspx

I like how the site even acknowledges the cutting process:
"The correct dose of finasteride for hair loss is 1mg, which means that you would need to cut the Fincar 5mg tablet into a quarter. However, Inhousepharmacy does not recommend this as the tablets crumble when cut and you may end up taking an inaccurate dose. We therefore recommend that you take 1mg Finpecia for hair loss."

I really do wish I had just gotten the 1mg. That amount of money is overlookable now, and will be nothing once I go full time salaried in 3 months.

[Exodus]

^ my finasteride costs 6 Pounds a year! Hardly breaking the bank, but then not everyone lives in a country with a health service, unfortunately.

As for long term, I'm quite confident that no one will need to use finasteride by 2023.

Kirby, I've seen your posts over time and followed them closely. How is Fin treating your hairloss?

[ned80]

I think the reason is simply cause some just dont want to bother with surgery or everyone would know its fake hair so why bother? Not everyone wants a boob job even if they have money.

I dont think most people are as concerned about hair loss as we are. Were a subsect of the average population thinking cause were actually discussing it on a forum

[Kirby_]

Kirby, I've seen your posts over time and followed them closely. How is Fin treating your hairloss?

I don't know, TBH. Am at 13 months, still look worse than I did at day 1. Was diagnosed in November with some telogen effluvium due to stress, whether that would explain matters (if I actually have/had TE)... I don't know. I get panic attacks every day still because I can't face how bad my appearance has become: just under 18 months ago, I didn't even realise I had hair loss (I did, or course, but it wasn't that bad to pop my happiness bubble, if that makes sense).

I'll still use the fin I have left, which should last me until early November. I have heard of people getting results on fin at 18 months or later, that's my only hope at the moment, really.*

I might add minox as a last-ditch effort, extremely reluctantly. That would literally be the last thing I do or try before giving up.

* my aim in the game when I started was to maintain until something really next-gen comes along in the treatment stakes.

[drybone]

I don't know, TBH. Am at 13 months, still look worse than I did at day 1. Was diagnosed in November with some telogen effluvium due to stress, whether that would explain matters (if I actually have/had TE)... I don't know. I get panic attacks every day still because I can't face how bad my appearance has become: just under 18 months ago, I didn't even realise I had hair loss (I did, or course, but it wasn't that bad to pop my happiness bubble, if that makes sense).

I'll still use the fin I have left, which should last me until early November. I have heard of people getting results on fin at 18 months or later, that's my only hope at the moment, really.*

I might add minox as a last-ditch effort, extremely reluctantly. That would literally be the last thing I do or try before giving up.

* my aim in the game when I started was to maintain until something really next-gen comes along in the treatment stakes.

Not me. I look and feel great.

Hey , sorry for your loss, but sometimes it dont work out.

[drybone]

I think the reason is simply cause some just dont want to bother with surgery or everyone would know its fake hair so why bother? Not everyone wants a boob job even if they have money.

I dont think most people are as concerned about hair loss as we are. Were a subsect of the average population thinking cause were actually discussing it on a forum

Boob job?

How many men need a boob job? I dont. But hey, to each their own.

Im sorry you look so bad or feel so lousy. I look great.

[Soxfaninfl]

I don't know, TBH. Am at 13 months, still look worse than I did at day 1. Was diagnosed in November with some telogen effluvium due to stress, whether that would explain matters (if I actually have/had TE)... I don't know. I get panic attacks every day still because I can't face how bad my appearance has become: just under 18 months ago, I didn't even realise I had hair loss (I did, or course, but it wasn't that bad to pop my happiness bubble, if that makes sense).

I'll still use the fin I have left, which should last me until early November. I have heard of people getting results on fin at 18 months or later, that's my only hope at the moment, really.*

I might add minox as a last-ditch effort, extremely reluctantly. That would literally be the last thing I do or try before giving up.

* my aim in the game when I started was to maintain until something really next-gen comes along in the treatment stakes.

It sounds like you need to step up to DUT/Avodart.

[Kirby_]

It sounds like you need to step up to DUT/Avodart.

I can't get it legally prescribed here in the UK! I asked the dermatologist I saw and was refused. He said I didn't need it as I had TE and finasteride was the way ahead. I don't know what to do. I'm borderline suicidal at the moment. I'd honestly rather die than go bald.

[Soxfaninfl]

I can't get it legally prescribed here in the UK! I asked the dermatologist I saw and was refused. He said I didn't need it as I had TE and finasteride was the way ahead. I don't know what to do. I'm borderline suicidal at the moment. I'd honestly rather die than go bald.

I would try another doctor. Some doc's here in the US won't prescribe Proscar. Have you considered going to another country in Europe to get it? I'm mean you could possibly get a three month supply from another doc if you can't get it in the UK.

[Kirby_]

I would try another doctor. Some doc's here in the US won't prescribe Proscar. Have you considered going to another country in Europe to get it? I'm mean you could possibly get a three month supply from another doc if you can't get it in the UK.

I'd have to research that. But what if I really have TE? I have to see it all through to see if I have.