Long-term minoxidil users?

[mpb47]

That is absolutely 100% not true. Not a single word of anything you said is true.

Listen fool, you and certain other members are the ones who start the aggression. I am taking the gloves off and fighting back. You attack me, I am going to attack you back. If you do not like that - tuff. You are a complete fool and an even more complete idiot. You could not find your own butt with both hands in broad daylight. And as if being an idiot were not bad enough, you feel the need to be a jerk off and call me names. But if I dare to fight back you idiots get upset about it. If you cannot take what you are dishing out, go back home to your mommy.

This forum is called The Bald Truth. If you do not want to hear the truth now and then, you are in the wrong forum. Because if I don't point out the truth, someone else will. You attack me simply because you don't want to hear the truth. Get your sorry excuse for a man to another forum where they will feed you the BS garbage you want to hear.

Tracy - You should really learn to not let people push your buttons so easily. I was once the same way when I was younger so I know it is hard, but it can be done.

[mpb47]

That's all well and good - but you cant post a comment on here anymore without this condescending bald bitch TracyC offering her insight into how overwhelmingly brilliant she is.

TracyC just argues for arguments sake because she hates who she is, she hates everything about herself, she's socially awkward & probably too ugly to have the confidence to speak this manner in public (face to face), so in place she acts out an imaginary persona online (TracyC). This partly explains her notably large commitment to a website dedicated to treating hair loss and her consequent behaviour and attitude toward other members.

If you don't like what she (or anyone) says, just let it slide and say nothing.

Because of my job, I have access to many online medical journals and a lot of what she says comes straight from what I have read. I don't have any medical background -in fact I am rather ignorant about mpb, but I do know how to look it up and see what the dr's are saying.

No I don't agree with everything she says- like minox making things worse, but everybody has a right to their opinion. And no, she should not be attacking you back...but I suspect she is young and still lets people push her buttons too easily - I was the same way when I was younger. And I am still that way if someone says something about my hair, even if it is just a comment.

And people always are fighting her about the mature hairline thing saying it is bs. Well it is well documented- even Hamilton mentions it way back in 1960 before any of us was even born. Now what is BS about the mature line is that it stays that way. From what I have read (and seen happen to myself)
it almost always sooner or later becomes mpb. The funny thing is I have seen people argue back and forth about it with her about this even though they are actually agreeing, but just using different words. Kinda like the Apple vs android debate. People fight all the time about which is better, but they don't realize that beside the interface, the OS is nearly identical as they are both Unix based.


Everyone on this board was unlucky enough to get cursed with MPB. No reason to make it worse by fighting each other.

[Tracy C]

Just once, Stacy, just one time I'd like to see you actually prove a claim you make. Or better still disprove a claim you're rejecting. Sounds fair to me.

Get my name right fool. You are the disgusting one. Pull you head out of your butt for once.

These are not claims I make you idiot. These are truths and they are easy to verify. Just once get off your sorry butt and look it up for yourself. It's not that hard. The information is readily available and easily accessible.

[Tracy C]

More garbage...

The crap you keep parroting is not good quality scientific evidence. It is poor and sloppy and lacks unbaised assesment.

You simply do not know what you are talking about and you are unwilling accept the truth. You need to leave this forum and go to one of the other hair loss forums. There is almost no chance at all that anyone is going to tell you the truth in those other forums, so your fantasies are safe there. The fantasies you want to believe are not safe here. Because if I don't tell you the truth about it, someone else will.

[Tracy C]

TracyC just argues for arguments sake...

That is absolutely 100% not true. Not a single word of anything you said is true.

Listen fool, you and certain other members are the ones who start the aggression. I am taking the gloves off and fighting back. You attack me, I am going to attack you back. If you do not like that - tuff. You are a complete fool and an even more complete idiot. You could not find your own butt with both hands in broad daylight. And as if being an idiot were not bad enough, you feel the need to be a jerk off and call me names. But if I dare to fight back you idiots get upset about it. If you cannot take what you are dishing out, go back home to your mommy.

This forum is called The Bald Truth. If you do not want to hear the truth now and then, you are in the wrong forum. Because if I don't point out the truth, someone else will. You attack me simply because you don't want to hear the truth. Get your sorry excuse for a man to another forum where they will feed you the BS garbage you want to hear.

[z06guy]

Yes but we're all here together on this forum to help each other out and give our own personal input. We all read things from the internet and from doctors and come to our own conclusion on these matters. If we all had the same mindset this forum would be useless. Let's use our collective knowledge for the better good instead of tearing each other apart with personal insults.

Let's all just start fresh and let bygones be bygones. We may have a difference in opinion on some things but we can be civil about it. You all have given great advice in the past to other members (myself included).

Fresh start.

[UK_]

Can't we all just get along???

That's all well and good - but you cant post a comment on here anymore without this condescending bald bitch TracyC offering her insight into how overwhelmingly brilliant she is.

TracyC just argues for arguments sake because she hates who she is, she hates everything about herself, she's socially awkward & probably too ugly to have the confidence to speak this manner in public (face to face), so in place she acts out an imaginary persona online (TracyC). This partly explains her notably large commitment to a website dedicated to treating hair loss and her consequent behaviour and attitude toward other members.

[mpb47]

can't we all just get along???

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
+1

[z06guy]

Can't we all just get along???

[Tracy C]

The only garbage around here is you.

You are deeply wrong about that. Some day you will pull your brain dead head out of your butt and you might just realize how deeply wrong you are.

You're an acidic idiot.

Far from it. You are the idiot. I am not.

[mpb47]

The only garbage around here is you.

You're an acidic idiot, clearly something has gone woefully wrong in your life and you feel it necessary to use this forum as a platform to vent your frustrations out on everyone else.

I understand that many men have taken finasteride for 5 - 10 years and more - SPENCER KOBREN IS ONE OF THEM. How many of those men you're on about however have retained their NW scale from the date they started to the 15 year point in their use of Finasteride? The MAJORITY of men experience heightened loss in the 3 - 5 year point (I WAS ONE OF THEM).

There is no right or wrong answer, well not without statistics. Some people get only a few years, some get 10, but I know of at least one guy who was around a 3V at age 22, got on propcea (no minox) and went back to around a 2 to 2.5 and has stayed that way for over 15 years. He also mentioned that he knew of 2 father & son DR's (well derms actually)who had been on it around 10 years and have not lost any more hair. I can probably find his thread if interested.

And yes you are right that it does stop working after a few years for some. I read a journal article where a 40 something guy got on propecia and had moderate results. After a few years, it quit working and he started going bald again. His Dr put him on Advodart and he got even better results than on propecia. So you may want to consider that.

[UK_]

Why should I bother. It's not like your opinion matters or anything. You are reckless, irresponsible and foolish. You are not worth my time. All you are going to do is come back at me with more garbage you found on the internet.

The only garbage around here is you.

You're an acidic idiot, clearly something has gone woefully wrong in your life and you feel it necessary to use this forum as a platform to vent your frustrations out on everyone else.

I understand that many men have taken finasteride for 5 - 10 years and more - SPENCER KOBREN IS ONE OF THEM. How many of those men you're on about however have retained their NW scale from the date they started to the 15 year point in their use of Finasteride? The MAJORITY of men experience heightened loss in the 3 - 5 year point (I WAS ONE OF THEM).

[Aames]

Why should I bother. It's not like your opinion matters or anything. You are reckless, irresponsible and foolish. You are not worth my time. All you are going to do is come back at me with more garbage you found on the internet.

YOU MEAN GARBAGE LIKE SCIENTIFIC LITERATURE!!?!?!?!?!?!?

I think you are deliberately trying to make the members of this forum go bald. You run around telling people that are clearly balding that they have "mature hairlines" and you put down any treatments not approved by the FDA, no matter the amount of evidence supporting them. Treating MPB is very much in its experimental stages, that means that sometimes you must take risks to treat it. I'm trying to help people manage these risks, instead of encouraging them to "accept" this debilitating, life-altering disease.

[Tracy C]

Please tell me what is incorrect in my post.

Why should I bother. It's not like your opinion matters or anything. You are reckless, irresponsible and foolish. You are not worth my time. All you are going to do is come back at me with more garbage you found on the internet.

[Aames]

This is because hereditary hair loss progresses for the rest of ones life. It's a really simple reality that a lot of people have great difficulty understanding.





The problem with that is you do not know what you are talking about and you do not know what you are doing. You are simply parroting garbage you find on the internet.

Please tell me what is incorrect in my post. We agree on the point that minox is not very useful without DHT inhibition (at least in the long term). Why would a DHT inhibitor not make it more effective? I don't expect an answer. Instead of posting a study or using some rational thinking, you will just attack me for recommending topical spiro as a treatment. It has been around for years and lots of people use it with NO SIDES!!!! The tiny amount you are rubbing on your scalp is not nearly enough to turn you into a woman or any sort of nonsense like that. I highly recommend you educate yourself before you continue to attack me.