Mature hair lines

[BigThinker]

Are people still arguing about this? There's like 18 active threads on mature hairlines.

[burtandernie]

Yup, but to he honest lots of stuff continually comes back up if you went back and searched through old threads. Lets face it MPB does not have a whole lot of solid answers on almost anything so lots of opinions on all of it. I just gave up on the mature hairline argument. Let people think anything they want.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Are people still arguing about this? There's like 18 active threads on mature hairlines.

The way Tracy harps one about it, it can have the following effect:

1) A young person who is beginning to bald, may just think it is a mature hairline, only to later find out that it isn't. Afterall everyone who goes bald, has a "mature hairline" at one point?

That misinformation could cause them to not be proactive with treating their hairloss.

Anyone who is concerned about losing their hair, should look into seeing a good dermatologist. They do exist, you need to find them.

[Notcoolanymore]

The way Tracy harps one about it, it can have the following effect:

1) A young person who is beginning to bald, may just think it is a mature hairline, only to later find out that it isn't. Afterall everyone who goes bald, has a "mature hairline" at one point?

That misinformation could cause them to not be proactive with treating their hairloss.

Anyone who is concerned about losing their hair, should look into seeing a good dermatologist. They do exist, you need to find them.

Yeah but the only way to be proactive with treating hairloss is to use something that give you persistent sexual sides 100% of the time.

[mpb47]

The way Tracy harps one about it, it can have the following effect:

1) A young person who is beginning to bald, may just think it is a mature hairline, only to later find out that it isn't. Afterall everyone who goes bald, has a "mature hairline" at one point?

That misinformation could cause them to not be proactive with treating their hairloss.

Anyone who is concerned about losing their hair, should look into seeing a good dermatologist. They do exist, you need to find them.

The mature hairline is normally the first stage of mpb, I don't think anyone disagrees on that. It just that in a few cases it stops there and doesn't get worse. Tracy herself has said in the past that most men bald eventually.

Bottom line is if it continues, get on meds if you don't want to go bald.

[yeahyeahyeah]

The mature hairline is normally the first stage of mpb, I don't think anyone disagrees on that. It just that in a few cases it stops there and doesn't get worse. Tracy herself has said in the past that most men bald eventually.

Bottom line is if it continues, get on meds if you don't want to go bald.

most is not all. The way Tracy describes it as most men voice breaks it is just not true. There are actually some ethnicities for example who have a lower degree of MPB - Japanese people for example.

[mpb47]

most is not all. The way Tracy describes it as most men voice breaks it is just not true. There are actually some ethnicities for example who have a lower degree of MPB - Japanese people for example.

Yes technically you are right. I am not 100% sure but pretty sure when she makes those statements that she really means Caucasian males, not all males of all ethnicities. I have friends from China. They *seem* to have both less mpb and lesser amounts of facial hair. My guess is less DHT accounts for both observations, but it is only my guess.

I really think it's a matter of semantics and you are almost saying the same thing. That is: Most Caucasian guys recede a little bit around puberty. And yes most, but not all eventually go into more advanced stages of mpb.

You think she is trying to delay treatment. It will take some searching to find the thread, but I know sometime last year she told me something along the lines that most men can't escape mpb without treatment so I do not think she is trying to do that. Only that when a white guy hits puberty, he recedes and then it may stop for awhile. And for me it was true. I receded in my teens and then it stopped for aprox 15 years. I honestly thought I was safe until my grandma told me my uncle did the same thing and did not start going bald till his 30's-which is what happened to me as well.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Yes technically you are right. I am not 100% sure but pretty sure when she makes those statements that she really means Caucasian males, not all males of all ethnicities. I have friends from China. They *seem* to have both less mpb and lesser amounts of facial hair. My guess is less DHT accounts for both observations, but it is only my guess.

I really think it's a matter of semantics and you are almost saying the same thing. That is: Most Caucasian guys recede a little bit around puberty. And yes most, but not all eventually go into more advanced stages of mpb.

You think she is trying to delay treatment. It will take some searching to find the thread, but I know sometime last year she told me something along the lines that most men can't escape mpb without treatment so I do not think she is trying to do that. Only that when a white guy hits puberty, he recedes and then it may stop for awhile. And for me it was true. I receded in my teens and then it stopped for aprox 15 years. I honestly thought I was safe until my grandma told me my uncle did the same thing and did not start going bald till his 30's-which is what happened to me as well.

Not everyone on here is cancausian.

It just bothers me how she compares this to puberty.

Only because your hairloss stopped for a while does not mean you did not have mpb.

[greatjob!]

Not everyone on here is cancausian.

It just bothers me how she compares this to puberty.

Only because your hairloss stopped for a while does not mean you did not have mpb.

It bothers me with how much you claim baldness effects your life when you have a perfect head of hair....

[burtandernie]

Maybe the real question is if your getting a mature hairline and dont want one does it even matter? I dont think there is anything you can do anyways I doubt propecia is gonna stop that and its silly to take a drug like that in hopes it prevents a small amount of MPB over the years.
With current options a mature hairline is common because no one can stop it from happening. Maybe if we had CB or some powerful AA, but not current treatments.

[PatientlyWaiting]

I think if you have the donor to do it, you should be able to pick a NW1 hairline, or ask for your 14 year old hair line back. How "weird" you look when you are 60 years old with a NW1 is not the surgeons problem, that is your problem (If you think a NW1 at 60 is a problem to begin with). I know they are the one's doing the work, but you are the one paying them, probably more than half your net salary for it so it all evens out. They do the work, you request exactly what you want, if you are a candidate for it.

[PatientlyWaiting]

The mature hairline is normally the first stage of mpb, I don't think anyone disagrees on that. It just that in a few cases it stops there and doesn't get worse. Tracy herself has said in the past that most men bald eventually.

Bottom line is if it continues,

If it continues, you are f-cked.

You need to get hair loss when it looks like a mature hair line. If you actually play the waiting game with MPB, you'll be a full blown NW3 and fighting an uphill battle in no time. You'll be scrambling to regrow, find out you can't, then have to be content with maintaining your NW3-4 with like 2-3 different medication on a daily basis, and pray to god you get a good amount of hair back with a surgical procedure. Which in most cases, one surgery is never enough.

[burtandernie]

Yeah I think a NW 0/1 looks the best at any age personally because you look like your never going bald verses a NW 2 guy that looks like he is already on his way to baldness whether it gets worse or not. Just my opinion I am done arguing about it because no one ever changes their mind.
I dont think a 60 year old with NW 1 is weird I would say he is exceptionally lucky and probably looks exceptionally young for his age. No downside I can think of.

[yeahyeahyeah]

Yeah I think a NW 0/1 looks the best at any age personally because you look like your never going bald verses a NW 2 guy that looks like he is already on his way to baldness whether it gets worse or not. Just my opinion I am done arguing about it because no one ever changes their mind.
I dont think a 60 year old with NW 1 is weird I would say he is exceptionally lucky and probably looks exceptionally young for his age. No downside I can think of.

When I grow my hair out, looks shit to be honest due to my hairline.

Days of long hair is over.