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  • Rootman
    Junior Member
    • May 2012
    • 21

    Mature hairline or progressive hair loss?

    I need some guidance please.

    My bf (26 yrs old) has what I call a great looking mature hairline but he is very concerned that it will continue to recede. What things should he be looking for? He tried fin every other day for a few weeks but felt like he was developing sides. I have done a lot research on hair loss and want to provide good advice; especially because the worry about what might happen brings him so much stress. But there's so many different types of hair loss. To me it looks like a mature hairline, but then there are days that I wonder if it is progressing. To be honest, I just don't know... I do tell him often that I love him with or without hair (which is the absolute truth) - but we both would feel more confident if we could keep what we have (who wouldn't).

    His older brother has a mature hairline but his brother's hair looks slightly less progressed (that is, slightly fuller in front)...and his other brother has no hair loss.

    Is this really just a game of 'wait and see'?

    Should I attempt to get him to try fin again and/or start trying minox as that's what I take and it appears to be working? I fear this will send a message that it does concern me, and that it is receding...which would freak him out. On the other hand, I also want him to do something about it before it's gone and there isn't much he can do.

    Thanks for any support!
  • BigThinker
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2012
    • 1507

    #2
    I've never had issue confessing my hair concerns with my mom, sisters, cousins, female friends, or even just female acquaintances (I typically brush it off as totally non-concerning, when it is mildly so.) Most women have told me they find mature hair lines attractive.

    Obviously, your (both of you) concern is that it will continue to progress. If that's the case, the best thing your man can do is go get checked out by a derm who will look for miniaturization of the hair and compare density to other parts of the scalp. Although, you did mention he was on fin: was it prescribed or did he order it off the net?

    That's really all anyone can recommend you do over the internet, especially without pictures. If he decides to continue fin, he might benefit from taking baseline hormone levels (via blood test) in order to monitor himself.

    In the end, with the support of a loving significant other, I'm sure he can overcome his hair loss, even in the most extreme of cases.

    Regards.

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    • Rootman
      Junior Member
      • May 2012
      • 21

      #3
      My apologies - we are both dudes. So it's hair loss concerns x's 2. The fin he tried was mine - I only began using it in June with good success (but do notice I don't get as horny).

      But regardless of our gender - I think you provided some really good advice. I have looked to see if there is minituration but haven't seen any.. but then again, I'm not a doctor/expert.

      I do hate to see him stress over it so badly. When will we have better treatments?... sigh...

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      • BigThinker
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 1507

        #4
        Originally posted by Rootman
        My apologies - we are both dudes. So it's hair loss concerns x's 2. The fin he tried was mine - I only began using it in June with good success (but do notice I don't get as horny).

        But regardless of our gender - I think you provided some really good advice. I have looked to see if there is minituration but haven't seen any.. but then again, I'm not a doctor/expert.

        I do hate to see him stress over it so badly. When will we have better treatments?... sigh...
        Yeah - my bad. I actually figured out you were both male part way through reading and tried to tactfully use the term 'significant other' in my response. I was just referencing my confining with women as to try and draw a parallel between our situations.

        I'm sure your support really helps him cope with this condition that certainly no one would prefer. Best regards to you both.

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        • Rootman
          Junior Member
          • May 2012
          • 21

          #5
          Originally posted by BigThinker
          Yeah - my bad. I actually figured out you were both male part way through reading and tried to tactfully use the term 'significant other' in my response. I was just referencing my confining with women as to try and draw a parallel between our situations.

          I'm sure your support really helps him cope with this condition that certainly no one would prefer. Best regards to you both.
          I really appreciate that - and wasn't sure what I'd get if I led with the 'hey, hey, we're gay and we're here to stay' foot..

          I really respect that you can speak openly about your hair loss. I only mentioned it to my mom once but found it really hard to discuss. I have discussed it with my sister, but she said she can't tell it's thin. I paint my head with dermmatch as I'm fortunate enough (I suppose) to have 'non-pattern, male pattern baldness' - as the IAHRS doctor told me. Right now, I can still hide it - although I think it's rather obvious that I paint my head in bright florescent lights or sunshine. Which makes me super self conscious...

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          • burtandernie
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2012
            • 1563

            #6
            No such thing as mature hairline so lets not spread false stupid terms to confuse others. Where did this term originate? its beyond stupid. Well if most men get mature hairlines and its not a big deal then by the same logic most men go bald like to NW 7 so just dont worry about it. Going bald/hair loss/mature hairlines are common among men and just part of getting older like getting hair on your chest and whatever else commonly happens.

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            • BigThinker
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 1507

              #7
              Originally posted by Rootman
              I really appreciate that - and wasn't sure what I'd get if I led with the 'hey, hey, we're gay and we're here to stay' foot..

              I really respect that you can speak openly about your hair loss. I only mentioned it to my mom once but found it really hard to discuss. I have discussed it with my sister, but she said she can't tell it's thin. I paint my head with dermmatch as I'm fortunate enough (I suppose) to have 'non-pattern, male pattern baldness' - as the IAHRS doctor told me. Right now, I can still hide it - although I think it's rather obvious that I paint my head in bright florescent lights or sunshine. Which makes me super self conscious...
              Yeah, I mentioned it to my sisters and they all said they kinda see it, but would have never noticed if I hadn't said something. My dad has been NW7 bald since like age 22, so I would feel really disgusted with myself to whine about a genetic trait I almost certainly got from him Frankly, it took a couple months, but I'm already at peace with whatever happens. I'm confident in my ability to continue to date, wrap up my Masters, and get salaried with a career I enjoy.

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              • BigThinker
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2012
                • 1507

                #8
                Originally posted by burtandernie
                No such thing as mature hairline so lets not spread false stupid terms to confuse others. Where did this term originate? its beyond stupid. Well if most men get mature hairlines and its not a big deal then by the same logic most men go bald like to NW 7 so just dont worry about it. Going bald/hair loss/mature hairlines are common among men and just part of getting older like getting hair on your chest and whatever else commonly happens.
                What are you babbling bout? Put the bottle down, Jedediah.

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                • inspects
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 260

                  #9
                  Mature Hairline.

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                  • Aames
                    Inactive
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 626

                    #10
                    Originally posted by burtandernie
                    No such thing as mature hairline so lets not spread false stupid terms to confuse others. Where did this term originate? its beyond stupid. Well if most men get mature hairlines and its not a big deal then by the same logic most men go bald like to NW 7 so just dont worry about it. Going bald/hair loss/mature hairlines are common among men and just part of getting older like getting hair on your chest and whatever else commonly happens.
                    I never understood why people throw around this term either. If your hairline is receding, YOU HAVE MPB! Your follicles are obviously sensitive to dht (you have the mpb gene). Whether or not you'll be a slick NW7 as you age is dependent on how aggressive your hair loss is/how sensitive your follicles are. You can play the wait-and-see game but you had better hope it's not aggressive.

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                    • inspects
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 260

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Aames
                      I never understood why people throw around this term either. If your hairline is receding, YOU HAVE MPB! Your follicles are obviously sensitive to dht (you have the mpb gene). Whether or not you'll be a slick NW7 as you age is dependent on how aggressive your hair loss is/how sensitive your follicles are. You can play the wait-and-see game but you had better hope it's not aggressive.
                      Exactly......, which is why I posted the link about, which explains it quite clearly.

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                      • Tracy C
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 3083

                        #12
                        Originally posted by burtandernie
                        No such thing as mature hairline so lets not spread false stupid terms to confuse others.
                        You are lying - to yourself and everyone else. You are the one that is spreading false information and confusing others by denying it. Pull your head out of the sand. Denying the truth about it is not going to do you or anyone else any good. It's real. The sooner to accept reality the better off you will be. If you cannot accept reality you do not belong in a forum that is called "The Bald Truth". There are plenty of other online forums that will gladly feed you this BS you want to hear.

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                        • Tracy C
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 3083

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Aames
                          I never understood why people throw around this term either.
                          The reason you keep hearing the term is because it is real and doctors who specialize in treating MPB are well aware of it - and well aware of the difference between a mature hair line and MPB. They are not the same thing.



                          Originally posted by Aames
                          If your hairline is receding, YOU HAVE MPB!
                          That is not true. It is natural and normal for the hair line of most males to recede a certain degree as they mature into adulthood. This is a natural and normal masculine trait that differs from feminine traits. Males have different hair lines than females. MPB is hair loss that happens far and beyond the natural and normal adult mature male hair line.. This is well known by the very best hair doctors in the world - as well as other doctors.

                          You do not need to be one of the best hair doctors in the world to see this truth. All you need is a pair of eyes that are open to reality.

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                          • burtandernie
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 1563

                            #14
                            Im saying that if you argue a mature hairline is common so men should just accept it, then your basically arguing that worse hair loss aka MPB should be accepted because it happens to most men. I mean the logic is the same you cant call bad hair loss MPB but ignore a little hair loss its silly.
                            I dont know why the balding blog guys insists on the mature hair line. I argued with him too but his argument was the same as yours. Its common among men right and so is MPB so neither is then a disease?

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                            • burtandernie
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2012
                              • 1563

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Tracy C
                              That is not true. It is natural and normal for the hair line of most males to recede a certain degree as they mature into adulthood. This is a natural and normal masculine trait that differs from feminine traits. Males have different hair lines than females. MPB is hair loss that happens far and beyond the natural and normal adult mature male hair line.. This is well known by the very best hair doctors in the world - as well as other doctors.
                              Think about this MPB is a perfectly natural and normal thing that happens to the majority of men does it not? By your logic and the quack doctors saying this really MPB is not even a disease at all. Your calling some hair loss just normal because your a man verses more hair loss is a problem we then call MPB. Its almost completely arbitrary and I know men that do not have what they call a mature hair line so your saying they never made it into adulthood? It makes no sense so that is why I asked who made up this term. I would issue a challenge comparing a miniaturized hair from MPB to one from a mature hair line to see how they are different. I think its the same thing.

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