Why do hairs on the back and sides remain?

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  • Breaking Bald
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 598

    Why do hairs on the back and sides remain?

    So I am sure that this has been answered before. But I still don't understand why does the hair at the sides and back remain during mpb??

    I mean it can't be the scalp right, because transplanted hairs stay there? So is it just something to do with the folicles?

    I have been reading about mpb for months now but still don't really understand it properly.

    Cheers
  • 2020
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2012
    • 1513

    #2
    because those follicles are the most sensitive to DHT. Safe zones thin too and maybe if you lived to be 200 years old then by that time those zones would be bald too.

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    • Breaking Bald
      Senior Member
      • Aug 2012
      • 598

      #3
      Originally posted by 2020
      because those follicles are the most sensitive to DHT. Safe zones thin too and maybe if you lived to be 200 years old then by that time those zones would be bald too.
      But why is it that those areas are the most sensitive and go first? Or is this unknown? You see men in there 90's still with hair on the sides and back, how come the top goes so quickly for some but the sides remain until death?

      Seems so odd.

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      • BigThinker
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2012
        • 1507

        #4
        I've thought about that too. Initial reaction is to think there was some sort of evolutionary benefit. Some suggest balding is a sign of boosted testosterone, so maybe that had a selection effect, manlier men = bald men. Maybe having a bald scalp in a part of the world with harsh winters was beneficial because it provided increased opportunity for sun to skin surface for vit-D absorption.

        Haha. Obviously, I'm just speculating; I have given this some thought though.

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        • gmonasco
          Inactive
          • Apr 2010
          • 865

          #5
          Originally posted by Breaking Bald
          But why is it that those areas are the most sensitive and go first? Or is this unknown?
          Why men bald, and why they typically do so in a predictable pattern, is unknown.

          The pattern to MPB is somewhat of a blessing in that it makes it easier for balding men to wear hairpieces. Imagine how difficult it would be to fashion a realistic hairpiece if men lost hair from the sides and back of their heads instead of from the top.

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          • 2020
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1513

            #6
            Originally posted by gmonasco
            Why men bald, and why they typically do so in a predictable pattern, is unknown.
            It's not a mystery. I just explained why it happens so...

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            • BigThinker
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 1507

              #7
              Originally posted by 2020
              It's not a mystery. I just explained why it happens so...
              I'm pretty sure he is asking "why is there more DHT on the top than the sides and back?". Most people on this site know what causes hair loss.

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              • JJacobs152
                Senior Member
                • May 2011
                • 293

                #8
                It probably is down to the level of the follicles as you suggested. Maybe the binding sites for DHT are different in the back and sides of the hair compared to the scalp and front areas.

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                • gmonasco
                  Inactive
                  • Apr 2010
                  • 865

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 2020
                  It's not a mystery. I just explained why it happens so...
                  No, you explained what happens, not why it happens.

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                  • Breaking Bald
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 598

                    #10
                    Originally posted by gmonasco
                    No, you explained what happens, not why it happens.
                    +1
                    I get the whole DHT thing, but it still doesn't really explain why ONLY the follicles at the top of the head fall out. Must be something to do with the follicles specifically.

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                    • mattj
                      Doctor Representative
                      • Oct 2009
                      • 1421

                      #11
                      We already know how the follicles differ in their sensitivity to DHT, but how can we discover why the difference exists in the first place? It's all speculation and I don't think we'll ever really know for sure.
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                      • 35YrsAfter
                        Doctor Representative
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1418

                        #12
                        I'm 60 and had hair transplant surgery during the early days at a large clinic in Beverly Hills California (1979). I had an exceptionally dense donor area when I was young. As I have aged (from 26 to 60 years old) my donor area on the back and sides of my head has thinned out considerably. I would say I have lost about 2/3 of the original density there. This doesn't happen to all men, but should be a consideration when men are thinking of having hair transplant surgery. My thinning may have been partly or completely due to the numerous shotgun scars I got from that early version of hair transplant surgery. I once posted photos and guys in another forum commented my donor was "shot". Thankfully beard hair and Acell are providing relief to an otherwise depressing situation.

                        -I work for Dr. Cole's office in Alpharetta, GA and post in the forhair.com forum as CITNews

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                        • 2020
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2012
                          • 1513

                          #13
                          Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                          This doesn't happen to all men, but should be a consideration when men are thinking of having hair transplant surgery.
                          on a long enough timeline it does...

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                          • 35YrsAfter
                            Doctor Representative
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 1418

                            #14
                            "on a long enough timeline it does..."

                            And... I wish you all a long and happy life.

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                            • DepressedByHairLoss
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2011
                              • 854

                              #15
                              This phenomenon really needs to be examined further, researched, and subsequently figured out as to why hair follicles on the top of the head are particularly sensitive to DHT while follicles on the sides and lower back are resistant. In fact, I believe that the only area on a person's entire body where hair is sensitive to DHT is on top of a person's head, the absolute WORST possible area for hair loss to occur. I mean, even hair on a person's arms, legs, and face does not fall out due to DHT. There has to be some reason for this and it really needs to be examined further and figured out. But that's what pisses me off more than anything: that hair loss research (and treatment options) are so inadequate and limited today.

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