My MPB hypothesis.

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  • youngin
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 338

    #31
    Originally posted by 2020
    I ALREADY TOLD YOU!! MPB zones have a higher 5AR activity that's a fact and that's why MPB zones go bald so fast.
    OMG YOU TOOL. WHY DO THEY HAVE A HIGHER 5AR ACTIVITY ONLY ONTOP OF YOUR HEAD??? IM NOT ARGUING THAT DHT DOESNT FACILITATE THE BALDNESS, IM SAYING ITS NOT THE CAUSE. To believe that, you would have to believe that your DHT levels rise as you get older, when its the exact opposite. THEY FALL. The fact that moving follicles from the back to the top and it still growing properly proves that its not a blood flow issue, or an issue with your endocrine system. Its so ****ing simple.

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    • NeedHairASAP
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 1410

      #32

      I think whatever causes baldness could have several triggers. I think generally it's genetic things that will trigger the "causes" of baldness, but I also think things like diet, masturbation, sun, whatever whatever could also trigger or inflame whatever the cause of baldness is... I.e. The level pgd2 could be a function of mostly genetics, but also sun, mastrubation, twinkies, whatever... In the end if genetics wants your hair to all of your hair will fall off, but other things could play a part.

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      • 2020
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2012
        • 1527

        #33
        Originally posted by youngin
        OMG YOU TOOL. WHY DO THEY HAVE A HIGHER 5AR ACTIVITY ONLY ONTOP OF YOUR HEAD???
        no idea but they just do, that's just how it is and that's that.

        Originally posted by youngin
        IM NOT ARGUING THAT DHT DOESNT FACILITATE THE BALDNESS, IM SAYING ITS NOT THE CAUSE.
        well some people go bald and some don't. Without DHT none of them would go bald. What else are we supposed to do knowing that?

        Originally posted by youngin
        To believe that, you would have to believe that your DHT levels rise as you get older, when its the exact opposite. THEY FALL.
        testosterone goes down and estrogen goes up as you age. Both of these make your DHT much more potent.

        Originally posted by youngin
        The fact that moving follicles from the back to the top and it still growing properly proves that its not a blood flow issue, or an issue with your endocrine system. Its so ****ing simple.
        who said it was a bloodflow issue? That theory has been debunked decades ago.

        endocrine system - could be. Observe how balding people have so much body hair. Obviously in those people DHT metabolism is too high. The problem is not just with your follicles.

        why wouldn't hair transplants work? It's the follicles that are being "damaged" and not a particular part of your scalp...

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        • youngin
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2010
          • 338

          #34
          Originally posted by 2020
          no idea but they just do, that's just how it is and that's that..
          You're exactly right. You have no idea. No one does. Quit pretending like its a proven fact. Nothing you say makes any damn difference if you cant prove that one thing.

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          • 2020
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2012
            • 1527

            #35
            Originally posted by youngin
            You're exactly right. You have no idea. No one does. Quit pretending like its a proven fact. Nothing you say makes any damn difference if you cant prove that one thing.
            !??!!? it is a fact but you asked why would this happen and I said no idea

            Dr. Samuel Lam of the Lam Institute of Hair Restoration in Dallas treats a variety of hair disorders including male pattern baldness


            Both isoenzymes are increased in the frontal balding follicles compared with the non-balding follicles in the back of the head. DHT levels are also increased in the balding scalp compared with the non-balding scalp. Further women have 3 to 3.5 times less 5-alpha reductase Type I and II than men, which probably accounts for why female AGA is less severe in most cases than with male AGA. Interestingly, individuals born without 5-alph reductase Type II do not develop AGA.

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            • youngin
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 338

              #36
              Obviously I know DHT levels are increased in balding scalp. The first study I posted proved that. You're just going in ****ing circles. Nothing you have said proves any reason why the top follicles act differently than the side. "They just do" is not an answer. Like we are just born that way.

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              • 2020
                Senior Member
                • Jan 2012
                • 1527

                #37
                Originally posted by youngin
                Obviously I know DHT levels are increased in balding scalp. The first study I posted proved that. You're just going in ****ing circles.
                you're not even close to proving that sunshine permanently enlarges your sebaceous glands...

                Originally posted by youngin
                Nothing you have said proves any reason why the top follicles act differently than the side. "They just do" is not an answer. Like we are just born that way.
                they don't!!! all follicles are susceptible to DHT it's just some are more sensitive and some are much less.

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                • youngin
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2010
                  • 338

                  #38
                  Originally posted by 2020
                  they don't!!! all follicles are susceptible to DHT it's just some are more sensitive and some are much less.
                  Oh here we go again, and WHYYYY are just the top ones more sensitive? WHYYY? You don't know. So shut up.

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                  • 2020
                    Senior Member
                    • Jan 2012
                    • 1527

                    #39
                    Originally posted by youngin
                    Oh here we go again, and WHYYYY are just the top ones more sensitive? WHYYY? You don't know. So shut up.
                    I just explained why in my last post:
                    I have been doing alot of reading lately about MPB since I read the study that implicated PGD-2 as the cause of it. One thing that stood out to me in that study was that there was an enlargement of sebaceous glands in balding areas. All of this reading got me wondering why in all of the cures and studies, no one has addressed

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                    • youngin
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2010
                      • 338

                      #40
                      That doesn't explain shit. You are ignorant.

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                      • 2020
                        Senior Member
                        • Jan 2012
                        • 1527

                        #41
                        Originally posted by youngin
                        That doesn't explain shit. You are ignorant.
                        how come? frontal follicles are more sensitive to DHT that's why they go bald first...

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                        • youngin
                          Senior Member
                          • Nov 2010
                          • 338

                          #42
                          You are so slow. This study was not done in infants or children, or teenagers. Its very unlikely children's front hair follicles are more sensitive. The question is WHYYYYYYYY do they become more sensitive. WHY WHY WHY. WHY WHY WHY. Oh and again, WHYYYYYYY DO THEY BECOME MORE SENSITIVE. YOU ARE SO ****ING ANNOYING AND NOT EVEN READING.

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                          • 2020
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2012
                            • 1527

                            #43
                            Originally posted by youngin
                            You are so slow. This study was not done in infants or children, or teenagers. Its very unlikely children's front hair follicles are more sensitive. The question is WHYYYYYYYY do they become more sensitive. WHY WHY WHY. WHY WHY WHY. Oh and again, WHYYYYYYY DO THEY BECOME MORE SENSITIVE. YOU ARE SO ****ING ANNOYING AND NOT EVEN READING.
                            they don't BECOME more sensitive!!! THEY ARE MORE SENSITIVE BY DEFAULT FROM THE SECOND YOU WERE BORN!

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                            • youngin
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2010
                              • 338

                              #44
                              OK let see the studies done on infants. GO FIND IT.

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                              • 2020
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2012
                                • 1527

                                #45
                                Originally posted by youngin
                                OK let see the studies done on infants. GO FIND IT.
                                there are no such studies. Best I can do is this:


                                Findings revealed that both women and men have higher levels of receptors and 5-reductase type I and II in frontal hair follices than in occipital follicles, whereas higher levels of aromatase were found in their occipital follicles.
                                one can only assume that frontal follicles were meant to be more sensitive by default and they didn't SELECTIVELY BECOME more sensitive...

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