? about Dr. William Lindsey

[ejj]

no your right , you didnt start this mess , the poster asked about Dr Lindsey , and recieved what i think is, and was, good advice , the " gho,sters"
showed up suggesting he check out donor regeneration , which is nothing more than transecting the donor follicle , a procedure backed up with little to no known evidence and has been dismissed by many credible ,recognised Drs and has its own thread located in " future treatments hasci " for anyone who is interested .

What i think is wrong is for someone to state that hasci be included with proven treatments like FUE/FUT, and offered to prospective patients as an equal to these tried ,tested,proven, and photographed many thousands of times procedures , this put simply is not the case .

Your statement that people should know about this treatment must therefore support the fact ,that they should then also know about all the other unproven treatments , why should hasci be any different than a procedure with the highly unpredictable " neograft " device ? or the complete scam of " laser " brushes ?

best wishes

ejj

[NeedHairASAP]

Top of page 8

http://www.hasci.com/uploads/downloads/dad01225-0ceb-4a30-90c4-771ed900f25aHSI%20-%20Artikel_Gho%20Neumann.pdf

I'd like to know what spex and ejj think of these pictures

[NeedHairASAP]

no your right , you didnt start this mess , the poster asked about Dr Lindsey , and recieved what i think is, and was, good advice , the " gho,sters"
showed up suggesting he check out donor regeneration , which is nothing more than transecting the donor follicle , a procedure backed up with little to no known evidence and has been dismissed by many credible ,recognised Drs and has its own thread located in " future treatments hasci " for anyone who is interested .

What i think is wrong is for someone to state that hasci be included with proven treatments like FUE/FUT, and offered to prospective patients as an equal to these tried ,tested,proven, and photographed many thousands of times procedures , this put simply is not the case .

Your statement that people should know about this treatment must therefore support the fact ,that they should then also know about all the other unproven treatments , why should hasci be any different than a procedure with the highly unpredictable " neograft " device ? or the complete scam of " laser " brushes ?

best wishes

ejj

okay, so basically its not proven until some assclown like rassman says its proven. Thats logical. We'll just throw ten years of medical journal publications out the window because Rassman, one of ghos competitors, says it doesn't work.

Thats like saying you shouldn't buy a car from car lot A because car lot B's owner told you car lot A's vehicles are a bust.

[ejj]

why dont you put the link in the ` hasci thread ` on future treatments and give flight tl a break ?

[Maradona]

no your right , you didnt start this mess , the poster asked about Dr Lindsey , and recieved what i think is, and was, good advice , the " gho,sters"
showed up suggesting he check out donor regeneration , which is nothing more than transecting the donor follicle , a procedure backed up with little to no known evidence and has been dismissed by many credible ,recognised Drs and has its own thread located in " future treatments hasci " for anyone who is interested .

What i think is wrong is for someone to state that hasci be included with proven treatments like FUE/FUT, and offered to prospective patients as an equal to these tried ,tested,proven, and photographed many thousands of times procedures , this put simply is not the case .

Your statement that people should know about this treatment must therefore support the fact ,that they should then also know about all the other unproven treatments , why should hasci be any different than a procedure with the highly unpredictable " neograft " device ? or the complete scam of " laser " brushes ?

best wishes

ejj

I wouldn't really call these procedures "proved". FUE yield is still a big problem and most doctors lie about the yield. There is no general study for FUE/FUT with no participants or anything and majority of doctors do not show you how many GRAFTs they really harvested or implanted.

Again you have no proof that it is transection of follicles neither do I, this is why I don't stick my nose too much like the Gho supporters.

In fact it seems the opposite because from what I have read gc is telling us he had two hair follicles grown in the back and in the recipient.

I believe FUE went through the same situation as HST as mentioned by Spencer Kobren, it took a pretty long time for doctors including Rassman to accept it as a viable treatment.

However, I agree it is probably is a bad idea to put Gho in such threads, it will start a war.

Please don't compare Gho to snake oils, at least this snake oil is better than FUE even regeneration put aside.

I will reserve my judgement on regeneration when a new study of HST shows up, which should be this year at least according to Gho.

[ejj]

no its proven coz you say it is , thats just great , your the man , why dont you also post in the `hasci ` thread ? is it because people worked out its complete bollocks and the thread ran out of steam ?

[NeedHairASAP]

no its proven coz you say it is , thats just great , your the man , why dont you also post in the `hasci ` thread ? is it because people worked out its complete bollocks and the thread ran out of steam ?

you said it's not proven because an assclown (rassman) said it wasn't


I never said it was proven because I said it was

I said it was proven because of, for example..

-several medical publications
-several celebrity cases
-multiple forum cases -- including a very strong case put together by GC


you're being deliberately misleading.

[Maradona]

okay, so basically its not proven until some assclown like rassman says its proven. Thats logical. We'll just throw ten years of medical journal publications out the window because Rassman, one of ghos competitors, says it doesn't work.

Thats like saying you shouldn't buy a car from car lot A because car lot B's owner told you car lot A's vehicles are a bust.

I think it's time to drop it needhairasap, this has gotten too personal.

[NeedHairASAP]

a procedure backed up with little to no known evidence and has been dismissed by many credible ,recognised Drs

why should hasci be any different than a procedure with the highly unpredictable " neograft " device ? or the complete scam of " laser " brushes ?

a. who are these credible doctors? Feridini had to retract a statement he made about gho being fake. Rassman is not credible.

b. has the laser brush been documented in several dermatology journals?


so basically, if a used car salesman tells you not to buy from another used car salesman... you should follow his advice?



please refer to page 8 of this report and tell me your thoughts...



I don't think its right to spread misinformation about gho calling him "unproven"... when you have a very limited and vague idea of what proof is out there.

[ejj]

figure 7 on the photographs , quote " there is a possibility of regrowth within months " thats a great word " possibility " ....

I never said it wasnt proven due to Dr Rassmans comments , i said it wasnt proven due to , ten years of doing the procedure , 52 weeks per year , allowing one patient per week , were are the results ???? one z list celebrity and one has been ball - kicker ! for your information Dr Woods has stated publically on other forums that he thinks its garbage as well ,

Again were are the happy satisfied patients ? from hasci , from Acell , from PRP , from hairplucking , from donor restocking ? from laser helmets and brushes ? all zero .... zero .....

[hairysituation]

figure 7 on the photographs , quote " there is a possibility of regrowth within months " thats a great word " possibility " ....

I never said it wasnt proven due to Dr Rassmans comments , i said it wasnt proven due to , ten years of doing the procedure , 52 weeks per year , allowing one patient per week , were are the results ???? one z list celebrity and one has been ball - kicker ! for your information Dr Woods has stated publically on other forums that he thinks its garbage as well ,

Again were are the happy satisfied patients ? from hasci , from Acell , from PRP , from hairplucking , from donor restocking ? from laser helmets and brushes ? all zero .... zero .....

Ten years of doing the procedure? Where to you get your numbers from? Can you please add sources to you false claims? And you have to admit that Gerard Joling's hair looks awesome? I haven't seen such results in normal FUE/FUT.

Also dr Woods is the inventor of the FUE procedure, so he isn't completely objetive in this case. Don't get me wrong, I would also love some more documentation from Gho, but I think he's really on to something. If his method works, it would basically be a cure.

[Maradona]

Ten years of doing the procedure? Where to you get your numbers from? Can you please add sources to you false claims? And you have to admit that Gerard Joling's hair looks awesome? I haven't seen such results in normal FUE/FUT.

Also dr Woods is the inventor of the FUE procedure, so he isn't completely objetive in this case. He want his method to be newest developed technic.

Coudln't blame him really. If HST proves to be true later on, then some people really shot themselves in the foot. It won't work as good if you had a procedure before.

This guy is also friend with Rassman, so take whatever he says with a big grain of salt.

I say just drop the topic.

Probably never should have brought up Gho here.

[ejj]

This is my last post on this subject as ive avoided the " gho " thread for many reasons .( the main one being that i believe hasci is bollocks )

Would be good if all " gho matter " was kept to the current " gho thread" , that way I can avoid it as i think its bollocks , and you guys can discuss it till your hearts are content , without trying to suppress people into agreeing with your bizzarre reasoning, of ...... 2 patients.. in ten years ! , same old same old photos! , Dr Rassman, Dr Woods doubting the procedure , and you know better

I think this would be fairer on people who ask a question like

" whats your thoughts on Dr Lindsey ".....


goodnight gentlemen

ejj

[hairysituation]

Coudln't blame him really. If HST proves to be true later on, then some people really shot themselves in the foot. It won't work as good if you had a procedure before.

This guy is also friend with Rassman, so take whatever he says with a big grain of salt.

I say just drop the topic.

Probably never should have brought up Gho here.

I hair you man. Dr Cole have stated that he is regenerated hairs as well. Where is his proof, and why don't HT doctors showing their sceptism towards him?

source:
http://www.************/hair-loss/bo...ategory-2.html

[Maradona]

I hair you man. Dr Cole have stated that he is regenerated hairs as well. Where is his proof, and why don't HT doctors showing their sceptism towards him?

source:
http://www.************/hair-loss/bo...ategory-2.html

Hahaha. Wow, kinda funny how the gho trolls have contaminated that thread.