Can a 6-pack abs make up for being Advanced Norwood 7?

[FlightTL]

This is a serious question.

I know that some of those on this forum feel a great body makes up for severe hair loss. Others don't.

I am still on the fence.

I hear women love 6-pack abs on a man. Can this give a Norwood 7 a chance?


I hope so....

[Notcoolanymore]

6 pack abs are cool, but how will people even know you have a 6 pack? Unless you have a job where you can go topless(ie. life guard) when will you be showing your six pack? I don't think it is cool for guys to sport mid riff shirts, so how do you plan on showing off your abs?

Forget all this non sense FlightTL. You and I are going out this weekend to get fitted for hair pieces. We're going to put an end to this BS. Nobody will be able to stop us then.

[Mike K]

Look up Johnny Sins Flight. He couldn't be more bald, he's got a six pack, and he's a porn star who gets more ass than a toilet seat.

Nothing wrong with hair drugs or a hairpiece though in my opinion. Some of us like having hair.

[fred970]

6-pack abs should never be visible. It's not natural, the only way someone could have so little body fat is through liposuction and steroids.

No matter what nonsense "lift hard bro!" people will throw on internet forums.

6-pack abs should never be visible. You need some body fat to be healthy. Good night.



Here you go, Johnny Sins. Not, natural!

[FlightTL]

6 pack abs are cool, but how will people even know you have a 6 pack? Unless you have a job where you can go topless(ie. life guard) when will you be showing your six pack? I don't think it is cool for guys to sport mid riff shirts, so how do you plan on showing off your abs?

Forget all this non sense FlightTL. You and I are going out this weekend to get fitted for hair pieces. We're going to put an end to this BS. Nobody will be able to stop us then.

Good point...I guess life guard or personal trainer(even then, I'd need to wear something)


Hair piece is awesome. I wish I had enough confidence to pull that off.

[FlightTL]

6-pack abs should never be visible. It's not natural, the only way someone could have so little body fat is through liposuction and steroids.

No matter what nonsense "lift hard bro!" people will throw on internet forums.

6-pack abs should never be visible. You need some body fat to be healthy. Good night.



Here you go, Johnny Sins. Not, natural!

Does one really need gear(roids) to get that lean?

I thought cutting hard can get you abs....

[Mike K]

Fred I like you man, but you're wrong on this. It is absolutely possible to have 6 pack abs naturally. Johnny Sins claims to have never used steroids, and claims he never will. Whether or not he is telling the truth, I personally am a lean 175 at 5'10" and I use no steroids whatsoever. I don't have the muscle definition I used to in high school and college, but I had a lot more time to lift back then. It is difficult with a 2 weeks on/2 weeks off work schedule. My point is though, I have had 6 pack abs naturally, and I have seen others do it as well.

Limit your calories under 2500 a day, eat at least 150 grams of protein a day, eat no more than 90 grams of fat a day, and eat around 180 carbs a day. Try to limit your meals that are high in carbs to after you lift.

Here is a sample diet that I personally have had success with:

Meal 1:
Omelette made with 3 eggs, 1/2 a red bell pepper, 1 peach

Meal 2 (post workout):
Protein shake made with milk and 6 strawberries

Meal 3:
1 chicken breast, 1 cup brown rice, 1 cup spinach, 1 avacado

Meal 4:
1 salmon fillet, 1 cup brown rice, 1 apple, 1 tomato

Snack (whenever hungry):
banana, nuts

Do not drink soda, tea, juice, etc. Stick to water.

Try this out Flight. Feel free to throw in something different but make sure to google the calories, carbs, protein, and fat thats in it.

[Mike K]

Forgot to mention I also drink a second protein shake an hour or so before bed. I mix my protein shakes with skim milk btw.

As far as showing them off, its not as hard as you think. Go swimming, go to raves/metal concerts, go run outside with your shirt off. Also, whenever possible wipe sweat off your forehead with your shirt, intentionally showing off your abs to the girl you are talking to. Maybe a bit douchey, but it works.

[redy]

I work out a decent amount and I almost never work on my abs. I only started working on my core even in the last year when I was forced to in rehab for an injury.

I have basically had a 6-pack as far as I can remember, visible because I have low body fat.

Of course it's not bulging out like some sort of body-builder, but it does that v shape thing and if I haven't eaten a large meal recently it will still show without flexing while standing. When I flex it is clearly visible, after running or lifting or whatever it is clearly visible. The only thing that has made it less visible is eating more to gain muscle mass elsewhere. I only drink protein shakes when I remember too, never anything else..

also, that's a really solid menu mike k, and when I'm consciously trying to gain muscle I use something very similar.

more or less what I do is:

2x egg omelette with some peppers/mushrooms/etc
or
sandwich with peanut butter and bananas
and some sort of protein bar

some sort of sandwich with chicken in it

some sort of dinner with a large amount of chicken and usually broccoli with mixed vegetables, probably tomato sauce.

protein shake post workouts and once during the day if I remember with milk.

snack on cashews or something, or sandwich from first part.

I also drink a ton of water and usually a cup of tea just because I like it and it's really just water and some other junk, hah.

keep in mind that I am under the age of 25 for a few more years so my metabolism does give me a lot of breathing room.

[chrisdav]

[QUOTE=fred970;172261]6-pack abs should never be visible. It's not natural, the only way someone could have so little body fat is through liposuction and steroids.

No matter what nonsense "lift hard bro!" people will throw on internet forums.

6-pack abs should never be visible. You need some body fat to be healthy. Good night.QUOTE]

Fred that is rubbish.

[fred970]

Does one really need gear(roids) to get that lean?

I thought cutting hard can get you abs....

It depends, very skinny people will have their "6 pack" showing without lifting a finger because they naturally have very little body fat.

People like me have some body fat in their lower belly that will never ever go away, I already weigh 73 kg for 190 cm. No amount of weight loss is going to make that fat go away.

Others, keep living in your broscience fairy tales. I know people like to believe something even if there is actually no evidence supporting their claims. Everyone here who has the so-called 6-pack had it naturally. Read the posts above. And for the guys showing off their regimens, thank you for proving my point: eating like an orthorexic and for 3 people, protein shakes, all those things sound really natural. It makes me mad because people around me tend to believe this nonsense too, and they will pick on me when we go to the beach, on something I have absolutely no control over. It reminds me of another condition...

[ryan555]

Honestly, there is a certain type of girl who is into that, mostly very young and somewhat unsophisticated women. But most women I know immediately call a guy "douchey" if he's too cut. The guy is perceived as being shallow and ultra focused on his physique when he should be thinking about his career, the hobbies that make him interesting, etc. Its the male equivalent of the girl with fake boobs, spray tan, bleach blonde, etc. In reality, it's more of the male ideal of what is attractive than what females want.

Anyway, I can tell you this - I get WAY more women now in my mid 30's than I ever did in my mid 20's when I was obsessed with my abs and biceps. I'm still fit, but not "cut." I do, however, have money now, I've traveled a lot, I've read a lot, I have some interesting hobbies. Women eat it up. If you're young and losing your hair, focus on those things and I promise that it will become less and less of an issue for you as you get older. Women will not care what your abs look like if you're dumb, poor, or uninteresting, and the vast majority will not care what your hair looks like if you're intelligent, successful, and have good stories to tell them.

[Mike K]

I don't see how diet and exercise is unnatural, and protein shakes are just a diet supplement its not like gear at all.

Flight, if you train hard, diet correctly, and supplement your diet with a protein shake, you can sport a solid six pack. In my opinion, this is natural. And in answer to your original question, yes I do think a solid 6 pack will make up for being an advanced NW7.

Ultimately though, focus on your career. That does need to be your top priority. I don't see why staying in great shape can't qualify as your interesting hobby.

[ryan555]

I don't see how diet and exercise is unnatural, and protein shakes are just a diet supplement its not like gear at all.

Flight, if you train hard, diet correctly, and supplement your diet with a protein shake, you can sport a solid six pack. In my opinion, this is natural. And in answer to your original question, yes I do think a solid 6 pack will make up for being an advanced NW7.

Ultimately though, focus on your career. That does need to be your top priority. I don't see why staying in great shape can't qualify as your interesting hobby.

Maybe you're young or just have great genetics, but once you hit your mid 30's sporting shredded abs becomes at least a part time job. I eat tons of lean protein, supplement with shakes, do hard cardio several times a week, and do yoga almost every day. I'd have to spend hours more in the gym to get rock hard abs at this point, and why would I do that when I could use that time to make money or travel and hook up with hot foreign women. Enjoy your hours spent with the bros in the gym, I've got other things on my mind.

[Hicks]

This is a serious question.

I know that some of those on this forum feel a great body makes up for severe hair loss. Others don't.

I am still on the fence.

I hear women love 6-pack abs on a man. Can this give a Norwood 7 a chance?


I hope so....

Yes, it's not only looks but how you feel. I'd say 70% of the guys (late 20s or older) I trail run with or mountain bike with have shaved heads. Usually those are the guys with the fittest/best wifes. six packs are extremely hard to get. If you get a six pack the rest of your body is solid. Nutrition is 90% of it.

You don't need a gym to get a six pack. Find some new hobbies.