Interesting video with Joe Rogan about balding

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  • Jrw651
    Member
    • Feb 2013
    • 62

    #16
    Okay Socrates.... We're not philosophizing debating and hair loss... It's just hair loss and it sucks, no need to write figurative paragraphs about it.

    I already went to Dr. Bernstein in NYC last December 2012 and he refused me a hair transplant because I'm too young... (25 years old) I've been dealing with it for 14+ months and I'm now sick and tired of the obsession and feeling ugly and disgusting (NW3 now)... I've tried every topical and oral treatment. They have just made the hair loss worse not to mention the side effects... I don't mind the extra maintenance if it takes me 20-30 extra minutes a day to wear a rug... It just becomes routine like brushing your teeth and washing your face eventually.. If it helps with my confidence and looks undetectable to normal people who aren't self conscious or obsessed with their hair loss like most balding/bald people than I'll deal with it happily.. Not to mention getting laid, I'll just make sure the ladies don't touch it when I'm banging them... And if anyone were to figure out it was a piece I'll just admit and say I look damn good with it...

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    • fred970
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 922

      #17
      Socrates never wrote anything.

      If you think wearing a hair piece is like brushing your teeth, you have no idea how much you're wrong.

      My father has been wearing one for 35 years now. How does he describe wearing a wig day in day out? Hell on earth.

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      • Jrw651
        Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 62

        #18
        Well firstly if he's been wearing one for 35 yrs than he's probably at least 60 yrs old. I would think at that age being bald wouldn't be a big deal considering most people have significant hair loss, so why would he still be wearing one?

        Secondly, due to my hair loss obsession this past year, I have done extensive research into treatments and considering everything I've tried and all my available options, a hair piece is the way to go.

        I know the best companies who offer the best quality systems online due to my research..

        You're right though, I won't know for sure until I actually try it on which won't be until April... It could suck, but it's worth a try.. I ordered a partial so I won't have to shave anything off..

        If it is hell on earth like you say, I'll just send it back and get refunded. No harm done except the feeling of hopelessness, until a legitimate treatment for hair loss is finally on shelves. Hopefully in the next couple years...

        So I'll have to deal with the obsession a bit longer.

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        • Cob984
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2012
          • 526

          #19
          Fred you keeo bringing up your father who is wearing a complete trash hairpiece no offense from the 70's,

          I agree Hairpiece is the way to go, I used to have amazing hair and still have a decent set but have to drop treatments because of sides, my body cannot handle AA's anymore,
          I dont want to wait for my hairloss to stabilize into some crap nw5 pattern and then go for a transplant with junk density and go for thousands of touchups as my hairloss keeps getting worse because i cant take fin etc,

          So yes i will have to work with a piece to get the results i want, im sick of the sides but i dont want to be bald and/or have thin wispy hair

          Jrw let me know how it goes bro, im ordering one really soon, im gona make the transition while i still have most of my hair so that noone suspects anything

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          • fred970
            Senior Member
            • Nov 2009
            • 922

            #20
            My father is wearing the last cutting edge hair pieces, what do you think?

            Your comment shows that you know nothing about hair pieces. Do you think you get one for life? You have to change every 6 months, because it gets damaged with time.

            My father is 53, he wore his first hair piece at 18 years old, which means he wore nearly 70 hair pieces in his life. For a real, high quality hair piece, you'll have to pay about 700€. He tried everything hair piece-wise, everything! Synthetic versus real hair versus European hairs versus Indian hair. Glue, not glue, sewed to his real hair (yeah there was a trend among wig wearers in the early 90's, stupid of course).

            My father is probably one of the most knowledgeable person you'll ever meet regarding hair pieces, he knows his shit. And here's the harsh truth: it's not and will never be viable solution for anyone suffering from hair loss. You can't go in the sun, you can't swim, you can't go out when it's windy, you can't wear helmets, you'll be terrified of being discovered, it's a real pain to maintain and most of you guys won't have the patience to do it yourself, so you'll have to pay for it at a salon. Last but not least: it's insanely expensive.

            He still wears it because he just got used to it, he had an empty and crappy life, no to disrespect my father, but it's the reality. Wearing hair has prevented from doing anything with his life and anything he liked. The only positive: he seduced my mom, which would never have happened if he showed up bald, and here I am.

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            • Cob984
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2012
              • 526

              #21
              Ofcourse i know you have to change it !! so what, infinitely better than bald,

              Cant swim? go out in the sun? are you out of your mind? i personally know a hairpiece wearer and he does all of that, wtf are you talking about, i mean if you are stingy as **** and want to extract every single day from your hairpiece upto 6 mths sure, you can do all of that and probably wear your piece out in 4 mths instead of 6, big whoop, have you been to any hairpiece forums? people are trekking, surfing etc with no problems, what a load of horse manure

              To sight if done properly its virtually impossible detecting a good piece, im paranoid as hell and even searching for every detail i cant tell on some of these modern ones, To sight ofcourse, you are not fully insured against touch but how many people actually start fondling your hair? i cant remember the last time anyone touched my hair and by touch i mean repeatedly screw around with,
              They DO NOT COST 700 pounds, you'r way behind the curve, check out any reputable online retailer, WAY WAY CHeaper

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              • fred970
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 922

                #22
                Those forums are sponsored by wig manufacturers, there is no independent wig forum, and why? Because like I said, it's not a viable solution.

                OK then, go in the sun with your hair piece, you'll think about what I said when your piece turns into a different color than your own hair. You don't believe me? You don't believe the sun changes people's hair color? Sea water damages real hair, so imagine what it would do to a hair piece. Trekking? I don't know in what country you live but, once the temperature rises, with that rug on your hair, you'll know what torture means. Those are all arguments pushed by wig manufacturers.

                Ordering a wig online? Yeah right, buy a cat in a bag. That's like those people ordering their finasteride or minoxidil from obscure online sources and they come here to say it doesn't work. How surprising.

                Jason Alexander said it right in an interview, once you go the hair piece route, there are no days off, you have to maintain continuity, the illusion. My grandfather (a few generations of wig wearers in my family) removed his wig when he felt like it, this was just ridiculous.

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                • Cob984
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2012
                  • 526

                  #23
                  Mate, i personally know someone who wears a hairpiece and i did not know, he told me he wore one and i was like wtf?
                  In your mind you are dead set that it doesnt work , fine believe that,

                  Going out one time in the sun doesnt change your hair color nor your hair piece color, stop being ignorant man, Sure if you are an outdoor person your hairpiece lifespan will be reduced no question,
                  I will order one online and get it fitted and blended perfectly at a salon, the people on hairpiece forums are real people, you think all those thousands of people on NWL, toplace, etc are just scam accounts promoting the products for no reason ? get real bro

                  Its not for everyone and some people hate the idea, fairplay, just like some people hate the idea of hormone altering meds or invasive hair surgery,
                  to each his own,

                  But it 100% is a viable solution for some people

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                  • fred970
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 922

                    #24
                    The sun changing hair color is a well-known fact. Especially for hair pieces, you know how they're manufactured right? Did you know that the hair on a piece chemically bleached and then dyed again? Of course not.

                    And I'm the one being ignorant.

                    By all means, go for it. I can't wait to hear your feedback.

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                    • Cob984
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2012
                      • 526

                      #25
                      NOT EVERYTIME YOU STEP OUT!
                      Dude honestly whatever floats your boat, you do your transplants + minoxidil,

                      Ill try out my systems, i prefer aesthetics to everything

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                      • fred970
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 922

                        #26
                        Fair enough. I just didn't want people to get false hopes about hair pieces.

                        Right now I'm doing nothing + minoxidil, but I'm OK with it for the moment.

                        Good luck!

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                        • PatientlyWaiting
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2011
                          • 1637

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Jrw651
                          If you guys are so fond of hair transplants and have apparently had 'success' with your hair loss concerns/issues than why do you feel the need to regularly post on this forum? Unless your paid to endorse HT's?

                          I would rather wear a rug/hairpiece if it looks undetectable as opposed to getting a chunk of meat chopped out of the back of my head and then have holes drilled into the top... Only to have it fall out again over the next 1-2 years...
                          Even with FUT, nobody "chops" anything. There's FUE if you don't want to get FUT.

                          Man, you sound really ignorant. Like you know nothing about hair loss or hair transplants at all. Losing hair for 14 months, it really shows in your posts. Wait til you've been balding for years. I've had hair loss for 9 years now.

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                          • Jrw651
                            Member
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 62

                            #28
                            I agree with Cob 100%. Fred, all your information is wrong about hairpieces, most likely because you have been sulking in your misery the past however many years due to your hair loss. Unlike you and your delusional perspective some people like myself actually decide to take measures to resolve this issue instead of being mortified and throwing out false information on these forums... And thats bullshit if you really think a system cost 700 pounds, you're not fooling anyone.

                            If the hair system goes well when I get it in 6 weeks, I will post pics and you should promise if thats the case, you will not bash hair systems on these forums again... Go bash SMP or something else... I'm too pale and Eastern European to get a procedure like that anyways..

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                            • fred970
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 922

                              #29
                              Temporary SMP, unlike a hair piece, is a viable solution: if well done, you're good for two years and it doesn't stop you from doing anything.

                              You don't have it glued on your head yet, do you?

                              See you in 6 weeks.

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                              • Cob984
                                Senior Member
                                • Sep 2012
                                • 526

                                #30
                                SMP is a joke, i dont want some tattoeed on hair, i want real good looking hair

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