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  • Woodyy
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 112

    Quitting fin after 10 months?

    Due to my new line of work I won't be able to take finasteride anymore (it is banned as apparently it's used to mask steroid use), there's no getting around it, I have to stop. Don't really want to go into detail about my job but there are regular tests.

    For me fin has maintained my hair well, my hairloss was caused by steroids in the first place, with my normal hormone levels I was fine. I'm hoping that seeing as my hair can cope with my normal hormone levels (or at least it could before) I should be fine coming off? The only thing I'm worried about is up regulation of androgen receptors, is this permanent and also would 10 months of use be enough to do it?

    Thanks.
  • 25 going on 65
    Senior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 1476

    #2
    You will probably bald, not going to lie

    I would quit your job and stay on fin. Irrecoverably screwing your appearance is not worth the money

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    • Notcoolanymore
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 2246

      #3
      Assuming your an athlete, I could have sworn I heard that fin was an approved drug. Maybe not. If you make a good living I would say screw it and get off of fin. Again assuming you are an athlete maybe after you retire you can get back on fin and grow some back or at the very least stabilize for a transplant.

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      • Woodyy
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 112

        #4
        Thing is I never lost hair in the first place with my natural hormone levels, it was only a steroid cycle that made me lose hair and so made me go on propecia. I should have stopped taking it after my steroid cycle really.. But unless my androgen receptors have been up regulated a lot during those 10 months I don't see why I should start losing hair with my natural hormone levels this time around? I mean my androgen receptors should theoretically go back to normal?

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        • mpb47
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2012
          • 676

          #5
          Originally posted by Woodyy
          Thing is I never lost hair in the first place with my natural hormone levels, it was only a steroid cycle that made me lose hair and so made me go on propecia. I should have stopped taking it after my steroid cycle really.. But unless my androgen receptors have been up regulated a lot during those 10 months I don't see why I should start losing hair with my natural hormone levels this time around? I mean my androgen receptors should theoretically go back to normal?
          Almost 2 years ago I was diagnosed with low T and a host of other heath issues. I already had mpb but it was very mild. Within a few months of going on T it accelerated for a few months then settled down but it still continued to progress slowly.

          I read up on this as much as could (even on the steroid boards). Everyone and I mean everyone said the same thing: T and steroids cannot cause mpb. It can only speed it up and make it happen sooner than it would have normally. If you do not have the mpb genes T and steroids will not make you bald.

          In other words, sooner or later you would have started going bald. A year , 20 years who knows but what you did was speed up the process.

          If you must get off propecia I would do it gradually. If you do start balding you can use minox - it won't stop it but can slow it down quite a bit.

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          • 25 going on 65
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 1476

            #6
            Originally posted by Woodyy
            Thing is I never lost hair in the first place with my natural hormone levels, it was only a steroid cycle that made me lose hair and so made me go on propecia. I should have stopped taking it after my steroid cycle really.. But unless my androgen receptors have been up regulated a lot during those 10 months I don't see why I should start losing hair with my natural hormone levels this time around? I mean my androgen receptors should theoretically go back to normal?
            I would absolutely not take this risk. You can always make more money, not so w/ hair.

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            • capitan
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2013
              • 121

              #7
              Like mpb said, steroids cant give you hair loss if you were not prone to it already.

              So if you get off Finasteride, you will definitely lose more hair, and maybe even go bald.

              Unless you're a professional athlete, you really shouldn't give up your hair for a job.

              Just my opinion.

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              • Notcoolanymore
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2013
                • 2246

                #8
                A professional athlete can still land a hottie with no problem. Not sure how easy it is for a non pro to do it.

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                • dguru
                  Junior Member
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 14

                  #9
                  Originally posted by 25 going on 65
                  I would absolutely not take this risk. You can always make more money, not so w/ hair.
                  man so negative, more to life then hair bro, money can equal hair also, i believe that some people when they start loosing, they also stop living, this guy might have something good going on, 10 months hey that wont hurt much, maybe a little but not much. positive thinking is the only means for any progression, plus people hate negative attitudes. good luck.

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                  • burtandernie
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2012
                    • 1563

                    #10
                    Why does every discussion about mpb or hair always go to some kind of getting girls comments? Are you here to get hair or for girls they really are two separate things. Anyone bald or not can get hot girls or anything between because its way way more who you are then if you have hair. Look around tons of guys have hair its not some magic link to every hot girl and honestly who cares even if it did?
                    Back to topic you dont want to stop propecia unless you absolutely need to. That being said I do think hair sensitivity to androgens changes over time and changing androgen levels can alter that, but its pretty clear we have little idea how any of it works. Can hair be more sensitive after years of propecia? Possible but no evidence to say yes for sure.

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                    • 25 going on 65
                      Senior Member
                      • Sep 2010
                      • 1476

                      #11
                      Originally posted by burtandernie
                      Why does every discussion about mpb or hair always go to some kind of getting girls comments? Are you here to get hair or for girls they really are two separate things.
                      Less hair = fewer girls. If it was not for women we would not care about hair loss

                      Originally posted by burtandernie
                      Anyone bald or not can get hot girls or anything between because its way way more who you are then if you have hair.
                      Your appearance is the single most important factor for how well you do w/ women, and hair loss is a deathblow to appearance in most cases

                      Originally posted by burtandernie
                      Look around tons of guys have hair its not some magic link to every hot girl and honestly who cares even if it did?
                      Everyone would care because women are what make us tick as men
                      Nothing else is more important as a male

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                      • Woodyy
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2013
                        • 112

                        #12
                        I think people are misunderstanding me. I'm not saying I would never have lost hair if not for steroids, I know I would, I know I'm prone to MPB to a certain degree.

                        What I'm saying is, going by my genetics, I shouldn't lose any substantial amount of hair for 2 or 3 decades. I can almost guarantee for a fact that if I had not gone on steroids I would still have perfect hair (I only lost a little but still.) At the time I had levels of testosterone (and so DHT as well) over tenfold what the normal person's hair would have to deal with for a period of months.

                        I know plenty of steroid users who lose hair on cycle, come off (without using finasteride) and then maintain that amount of hair without losing more once the steroids have cleared their system. I just hope that going on finasteride, which admittedly was probably a mistake anyway, has made my androgen receptors used to a lower amount of DHT.

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                        • Dan26
                          Senior Member
                          • Jul 2012
                          • 1270

                          #13
                          ok so get off fin and lets see what happens

                          do u plan to go on steroids again?

                          how bout a SARM instead?

                          can u go into more detail about ur job and why u cant use fin? ie masking agent for roids? it is not banned by WADA

                          but if u know for a fact u have to get off it, get off it

                          if hairloss resumes, try a topical AA like RU58841 and possibly minox

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                          • Dan26
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2012
                            • 1270

                            #14
                            ok i re read ur initial post lol so u cant go

                            ur 100% sure u cant be on it so get off and see what happens....there is no concrete eveidence against AR upregulation in the hairfollicles only in the prostate but based on anecdotes some beleive the same holds true for scalp AR's

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                            • Woodyy
                              Senior Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 112

                              #15
                              I guess it's just a case of seeing what happens, providing the new career path goes well there's no choice in it for me.

                              Still gonna use spiro 2x a week which should help, it's gonna be hard to tell whether or not my hair is getting worse or not seeing as I already shed quite a lot but it never makes a difference to my hair as I guess it all grows back fine. I'm just going to go by how my hair looks which is quite misleading when you're paranoid lol.. I know for a fact my hairline has been at a frackle mark ever since I started fin, I'll use that as a marker.

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