Can I still go bald even on Finasteride?

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  • fred970
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 924

    #16
    And you may have to switch genders if MPB overpowers dut.

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    • drybone
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2012
      • 868

      #17
      Originally posted by fred970
      And you may have to switch genders if MPB overpowers dut.
      Gender bender.

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      • mpb47
        Senior Member
        • Apr 2012
        • 676

        #18
        Originally posted by capitan
        I was hoping that it was impossible to go completely bald if one was taking Finasteride from early on.

        I also thought that the only people who didn't more or less keep their hair, were the people who got side effects or never even took Finasteride.

        I have a lot riding on this medication but some days the future doesn't look too bright.
        It works for most people. How long is hard to say..some only a few years some 15 years and still working fine.

        Also don't worry that you started receding at 17 because that DOES NOT mean you will bald quickly. Yes some say if you start losing hair early you will bald faster but that is certainly not always true. I started at 17,,,but probably around 15 and I still have much more hair than some of the guys I grew up with who didn't lose hair till much much later.

        So just use it and see how it goes..and give it at least a year. Good luck.

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        • capitan
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 121

          #19
          Originally posted by mpb47
          It works for most people. How long is hard to say..some only a few years some 15 years and still working fine.

          Also don't worry that you started receding at 17 because that DOES NOT mean you will bald quickly. Yes some say if you start losing hair early you will bald faster but that is certainly not always true. I started at 17,,,but probably around 15 and I still have much more hair than some of the guys I grew up with who didn't lose hair till much much later.

          So just use it and see how it goes..and give it at least a year. Good luck.
          Yeah, fingers crossed.

          At least I always have Dutasteride to fall back on, but that's as far as I'd go.

          It's just annoying seeing those posts of people who swear they kept shedding on Finasteride. I started taking this pill thinking it would at least maintain for a few years.

          Thanks for letting me know about your hair loss, hopefully mine is meant to follow a similar pattern.

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          • capitan
            Senior Member
            • Oct 2013
            • 121

            #20
            Also @mpb,

            how bad was your balding at 17? I have very receded temples, pushing past a NW2 and it might just be in my head but I'm thinning a little on top. Still got coverage though.

            How did yours look like at 17?

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            • 25 going on 65
              Senior Member
              • Sep 2010
              • 1476

              #21
              Originally posted by capitan
              25 going on 65,

              Let's say that I'm one of the unlucky guys who can't completely halt hair loss on Finasteride.

              How bad do you think the damage will be in the year before hopping on Dut?


              I know you have no way of knowing, but I'm trying to gather as many opinions as possible.
              Hard to say. There are some guys who lose significant hair in a year, but the fin should really mitigate that. tbh if you were a little older I would recommend just going on dut now, but w/ the extra 5-ar enzyme being suppressed, I am not sure if there might be additional risk for someone at 17

              I do know of at least 1 guy who supposedly started dut at 17 & had great results. Said he noticed no sides.

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              • 35YrsAfter
                Doctor Representative
                • Aug 2012
                • 1421

                #22
                Originally posted by capitan
                Hey,

                Just 17 and been receding since I was 16. Right now I'm a Norwood 2 with full coverage but a thinning hairline. For well over a month I have been taking
                -1mg Finasteride daily
                -Revita shampoo every 3 days
                I just want to maintain for as long as possible.

                But do you think I can still go bald even on this treatment?


                Thanks!!
                Some say fin and dut just delay the inevitable. look up identical twin comparisons where one took medication and the other didn't. There is some encouraging photographic evidence available. You should contact a local hair restoration physician for an evaluation/consultation. Having photos of men on your mother and father's side are useful. I'm not recommending you see a hair restoration physician for a transplant, instead, have them do a HairCheck. It's good to know what you're up against.

                35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
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                Cole Hair Transplant
                1045 Powers Place
                Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                Phone 678-566-1011
                email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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                • capitan
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2013
                  • 121

                  #23
                  Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                  Some say fin and dut just delay the inevitable. look up identical twin comparisons where one took medication and the other didn't. There is some encouraging photographic evidence available. You should contact a local hair restoration physician for an evaluation/consultation. Having photos of men on your mother and father's side are useful. I'm not recommending you see a hair restoration physician for a transplant, instead, have them do a HairCheck. It's good to know what you're up against.

                  35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                  forhair.com
                  Cole Hair Transplant
                  1045 Powers Place
                  Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                  Phone 678-566-1011
                  email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                  Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                  What can they tell me with a HairCheck?

                  And with what accuracy?

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                  • drybone
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 868

                    #24
                    Originally posted by capitan
                    Also @mpb,

                    how bad was your balding at 17? I have very receded temples, pushing past a NW2 and it might just be in my head but I'm thinning a little on top. Still got coverage though.

                    How did yours look like at 17?
                    I started to lose hair at 20. However, I was still a NW3 at age 46.

                    Some guys dont start balding until 22 or 25 and are chrome dome at 30. I would look at young photos of both your grandfathers and see if your hair looks like either of theirs. The style, color etc.......

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                    • drybone
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2012
                      • 868

                      #25
                      Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                      Some say fin and dut just delay the inevitable.
                      Hey Chuck.

                      I read that our testosterone starts to fade at age 30 and by age 50 we have half the amount. I have also been told that at age 65 we dont have enough testosterone to convert to DHT at levels to destroy hair follicles . What we have at 65 is what we got.

                      If we took DUT or Fin until age 50 at least, wouldnt we then still keep most of our hair after that even if we quit cold turkey? Let me know your thoughts.

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                      • 35YrsAfter
                        Doctor Representative
                        • Aug 2012
                        • 1421

                        #26
                        Originally posted by capitan
                        What can they tell me with a HairCheck?

                        And with what accuracy?
                        Here is the HairCheck Website. Dr. Cole uses this system and although the HairCheck results (including other information) are helpful in determining a probable hairloss course, the results are not infallible.

                        35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                        forhair.com
                        Cole Hair Transplant
                        1045 Powers Place
                        Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                        Phone 678-566-1011
                        email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                        Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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                        • capitan
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2013
                          • 121

                          #27
                          Thanks. I'll see if I can get that done.

                          It's always safer to assume you're going to lose it all, and start fighting it as soon as possible.

                          But it would be a huge relief to find out I'm only destined for NW3-4.

                          I believe that would be much easier to fight off with treatments than a NW6-7 predisposition.

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                          • mpb47
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2012
                            • 676

                            #28
                            Originally posted by capitan
                            Also @mpb,

                            how bad was your balding at 17? I have very receded temples, pushing past a NW2 and it might just be in my head but I'm thinning a little on top. Still got coverage though.

                            How did yours look like at 17?
                            Well maybe 2 months after I turned 17 is when I first noticed it started to recede at the left temple. About 6 months later I could no longer part my hair on that side as I had lost too much at that point. Thankfully it slowed down and would come in small spurts, sometimes stopping for a good while.

                            But regardless, with the meds you have, you have a good chance of stopping it as it is easier to stop mpb than to to get it back so just give it a good chance like a good year.

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                            • 35YrsAfter
                              Doctor Representative
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 1421

                              #29
                              Originally posted by drybone
                              Hey Chuck.

                              I read that our testosterone starts to fade at age 30 and by age 50 we have half the amount. I have also been told that at age 65 we dont have enough testosterone to convert to DHT at levels to destroy hair follicles . What we have at 65 is what we got.

                              If we took DUT or Fin until age 50 at least, wouldnt we then still keep most of our hair after that even if we quit cold turkey? Let me know your thoughts.

                              Aging happens so gradually, it's difficult to gauge. As an older guy, I'm definitely changed from how I was when I was 14-18. I feel the same as I did when I was 35 though. I have only used Rogaine. Dut and fin are definitely effective but the question remains... To what degree and for how long. Identical twin studies can provide valuable documentation. As we know Internet photos may or may not be reliable. What's needed are many more studies.

                              35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                              forhair.com
                              Cole Hair Transplant
                              1045 Powers Place
                              Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                              Phone 678-566-1011
                              email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                              Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck

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                              • 35YrsAfter
                                Doctor Representative
                                • Aug 2012
                                • 1421

                                #30
                                Originally posted by 35YrsAfter
                                Take a good look at the photo of the twins sitting next to each other at the link I posted above. The bald brother's arm looks completely different from his brother's. Makes me wonder, are they really brothers (they certainly look identical in the other photos) or did finasteride have a feminizing effect?

                                35YrsAfter also posts as CITNews and works at Dr. Cole's office
                                forhair.com
                                Cole Hair Transplant
                                1045 Powers Place
                                Alpharetta, Georgia 30009
                                Phone 678-566-1011
                                email 35YrsAfter at chuck@forhair.com
                                Please feel free to call or email me with any questions. Ask for Chuck
                                Last edited by 35YrsAfter; 10-17-2013, 09:15 AM.

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