Does hairloss affect men with attractive faces more than average looking guys?

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  • adam k
    Member
    • Aug 2013
    • 78

    #16
    Originally posted by ccmethinning
    Reading comprehension fail.

    She's not saying baldness doesn't effect attractiveness, she's saying physical/facial attractiveness on a man is less important to women than physical/facial attractiveness on a woman is to a man. Other things can make men attractive, such as money, charisma, humor, height, status, etc.

    Stop arguing with tracy for the sake of arguing with her.
    Other things can make a man attractive? Money? What if you don't have any. And if you do and are unattractive then hello gold diggers. Height? So basically you're shooting down every manlet out there. Nice one bro.

    Life is easier with good looks, and thats the fact. Anyone who disagrees is strong blue pill. No one is arguing for the sake of arguing. I had a gf when I was a NW0 with no diffuse thinning. I had long hair like Bradley Cooper. She was a 9/10. I didnt even have to try and get her. I didn't chase after her. She came to me. Life is so much easier with good looks.

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    • Vic12
      Member
      • Aug 2013
      • 66

      #17
      A handsome man might take it harder, but he'll still look better and feel better than someone less attractive.

      Jude Law is still considered sexier than most NW1 celebs, and I know I'd still be a 9 even at NW3 (and I'm only 5'9).

      Looks only get your foot through the front door. I consider myself a very attractive guy and all my life approaching and talking to girls has been easier than for most guys I know. I've never been rejected, but I cant tell you how many times I've blown it with attractive girls because my game sucks.

      I've known kids who are no where near as good looking as me who get blown off so much it's sad. But I think they're getting laid much more than me because when they get their chance with a girl they do not f*** it up.

      It's obvious watching how they talk to girls that they're way smoother, they have more charm and tenacity.

      That's something I'm absolutely gonna start working on while I'm still a thick NW2, and everyone who isn't already good with women should as well, especially if you still have hair (since getting started as a bald dude would be much harder).

      On a side note I work as a host at a popular Italian grill and I've already seated maybe over 10 guys with shaved heads on dates with gorgeous women.

      I am NOT gonna lie though; I'm certain these bald guys look NOTHING like your average guy on a hair loss forum. They were all jacked, a couple of them definitely on steroids (it was obvious). They all definitely knew how to dress, more than the average guy.

      That being said I have sat way more NW1 guys with beautiful women. So yeah having hair is an advantage.

      But when you shave that dome, even if it'll be harder without a full head of hair, you can still land a 10.

      If that's what you're after anyway.

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      • adam k
        Member
        • Aug 2013
        • 78

        #18
        Originally posted by Vic12
        A handsome man might take it harder, but he'll still look better and feel better than someone less attractive.

        Jude Law is still considered sexier than most NW1 celebs, and I know I'd still be a 9 even at NW3 (and I'm only 5'9).
        There is no such thing as game. There is only looks. You seem like a nice guy but if you were a 9 regardless of what norwood stage you were at, you wouldnt be here. And also no one can be a 9 at NW3. Only a select few who have won the genetic lottery in other aspects like Freddie Ljungberg.

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        • 25 going on 65
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2010
          • 1476

          #19
          #1 99% of men will take a major hit in appearance from significant MPB. The ones who do not, have an ideal head shape & facial features for a shave/buzz (but still would look better with hair)

          #2 Things matter besides looks, but nothing matters more when it comes to being treated well in your daily life, let alone attention from women

          #3 Yes there is subjectivity in looks, one girl's 9 is another girl's 6 or w/e. But there are features almost universally considered positive or negative. Hair loss is considered a minus to appearance to almost everyone.

          #4 Yes goodlooking guys are likelier to take MPB hard. They have something to lose which others do not have
          Imagine going from a pretty face in the crowd, who people notice, to disappearing into the plain masses....or worse, standing out for looking bad (if MPB screws you hard enough). That is a HUGE change in day to day life, when the way everyone perceives you takes a flip like that

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          • Vic12
            Member
            • Aug 2013
            • 66

            #20
            Originally posted by adam k
            There is no such thing as game. There is only looks. You seem like a nice guy but if you were a 9 regardless of what norwood stage you were at, you wouldnt be here. And also no one can be a 9 at NW3. Only a select few who have won the genetic lottery in other aspects like Freddie Ljungberg.
            I'm on a hair loss forum because I'm losing hair.

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            • ccmethinning
              Senior Member
              • Jan 2012
              • 317

              #21
              Originally posted by adam k
              Other things can make a man attractive? Money? What if you don't have any. And if you do and are unattractive then hello gold diggers. Height? So basically you're shooting down every manlet out there. Nice one bro.
              I myself am a manlet at 5'6". Money and height matter. As do game and looks and many other things.

              Originally posted by adam k
              There is no such thing as game. There is only looks. You seem like a nice guy but if you were a 9 regardless of what norwood stage you were at, you wouldnt be here. And also no one can be a 9 at NW3. Only a select few who have won the genetic lottery in other aspects like Freddie Ljungberg.
              I'm as red pill as it gets, and I find you a special kind of detestable little troll. Go back to PUA Hate forum and leave your sick, demented world view off this forum.

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              • greatjob!
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 909

                #22
                Who the hell talks about looks on a scale of 1-10, are you guys 12 years old?

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                • baldozer
                  Senior Member
                  • Oct 2012
                  • 752

                  #23
                  I was attractive before and attractive now. It depends alot on your face and skull shape. For example this guy, baldness doesn't impact his good looks at all. OK, he still has some hair in this picture, but even if he were a NW7, he would still look great.



                  On the other hand, the looks of Jude Law have been totally destroyed by baldness.

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                  • Dan26
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2012
                    • 1270

                    #24
                    I'd say if you are attractive in a more mascule way ie square jaw high cheekbones, muscular etc it wont effect ur looks as much...but if you are attractive in more of a prettyboy/handsome softer feature way hair is more important for your look

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                    • baldozer
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2012
                      • 752

                      #25
                      Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                      Hair loss can really be hard on anybody. Look at my boy Dee Snider from Twisted Sister, one of the best rock n roll frontmen. He'd be the first to tell you that he's ugly, but if he didn't have a ridiculous head of hair, I guarantee you that he wouldn't have been the frontman for a band like Twisted Sister. Same goes for Mick Jagger and Steven Tyler. These are not really good-looking men yet their great heads of hair (among other attributes) has really made them who they are. I guarantee you that they wouldn't be fronting their respective bands if they were bald. And that's what I can't stand about hair loss: that it limits what you can and can't do.
                      What about the singer from Disturbed. He is bald. Also the singer from R.E.M. Then you also have Phill Collins who was also very successful.

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                      • Tracy C
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 3083

                        #26
                        This psychosis is more damaging to the individual than the hair loss itself could ever be.

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                        • greatjob!
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 909

                          #27

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                          • DepressedByHairLoss
                            Senior Member
                            • Feb 2011
                            • 854

                            #28
                            Originally posted by baldozer
                            What about the singer from Disturbed. He is bald. Also the singer from R.E.M. Then you also have Phill Collins who was also very successful.
                            I actually like Dave Draiman from Disturbed. Michael Stipe from R.E.M. just looks very anorexic and sickly, and Phil Collins went bald later on in life. These guys are the exceptions to the rule though. Most rock musicians (and especially in my genre of 80s-style hard rock and metal) had big full heads of long hair when they were young.

                            One new guy that I like though is Chris Daughtry. He suffers from hair loss yet he does not relegate himself to being a drummer in the background or a session musician. He's right out front singing and fronting the band. He conducts himself with pride and dignity, makes some great music, and self-deprecate himself as a loser just cus he is suffering from hair loss. But it also helps that he has some stubble up top. I doubt he'd be as attractive if he was an NW6.

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                            • greatjob!
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 909

                              #29
                              Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                              One new guy that I like though is Chris Daughtry. He suffers from hair loss yet he does not relegate himself to being a drummer in the background or a session musician. He's right out front singing and fronting the band. He conducts himself with pride and dignity, makes some great music, and self-deprecate himself as a loser just cus he is suffering from hair loss.
                              If you think Daughtry makes great music, then your opinion on any subject is completely worthless.

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                              • baldozer
                                Senior Member
                                • Oct 2012
                                • 752

                                #30
                                Originally posted by DepressedByHairLoss
                                I actually like Dave Draiman from Disturbed. Michael Stipe from R.E.M. just looks very anorexic and sickly, and Phil Collins went bald later on in life. These guys are the exceptions to the rule though. Most rock musicians (and especially in my genre of 80s-style hard rock and metal) had big full heads of long hair when they were young.

                                One new guy that I like though is Chris Daughtry. He suffers from hair loss yet he does not relegate himself to being a drummer in the background or a session musician. He's right out front singing and fronting the band. He conducts himself with pride and dignity, makes some great music, and self-deprecate himself as a loser just cus he is suffering from hair loss. But it also helps that he has some stubble up top. I doubt he'd be as attractive if he was an NW6.
                                There are many bald musicians in the rock and metal genre, for example, singers from Scorpions, Smashin Pumpkins, Disturbed and Judas Priest, Guitarists from Slayer, Scorpions, Dimmu Borgir and Rage against the Machine etc. It is also known that Metallica's lead guitarist had an Hair Transplant done.

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