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  • itsmyhairs
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2012
    • 159

    Where are the ****ing treatments?

    Is it even possible to surpress DHT without having to order shit from the russian mafia on the internet or risk side effects?

    Jesus christ on a ****ing stick, where are the effective treatments? How hasn't science sorted this out by now?
    We can go to the ****ing moon and discover the god particle but we can't keep some ****ing keratin strands coming out of our scalps?

    Are you trolling me, science?

    All those promising 'cures' have turned out to be non starters, histogens failed, the others are lackluster at best and there's nothing even remotely promising around the corner, nothing.

    It boggles the mind that pharma companies aren't on this like a bunch of fat kids on a free chocolate cake.
    The more suspicious might think they're making too much money from the crappy treatments we have to find a 'cure', but that just doesn't hold weight for me.
    They make a paltry sum from propecia and rogaine, I believe it's less than a billion a year?
    That's pocket change to these companies, considering there's multiple manufacturers of the products too.

    Is there any hope?
  • Notcoolanymore
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2013
    • 2246

    #2
    I started losing my hair 15 years ago. Although I hated it like most of us in here, I figured a cure or decent treatments were not far away. 15 years ago!!! Have there really even been any advancements during that time. I sometimes hear in some of these threads that major treatments are not too far away. Yeah right.

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    • Notcoolanymore
      Senior Member
      • Jun 2013
      • 2246

      #3
      And forget about a "natural cure" that you can take without side effects. No money in that. If(and that's a big IF) there ever is a cure, I can guarantee you it will be a drug that must be taken for the rest of your life and is expensive. The drug of course will have plenty of potential sides: impotence, cancer, developement of breasts, other stuff that is worse than hairloss, and of course more hair loss.

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      • clandestine
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2011
        • 2002

        #4
        Well aren't you just a Negative Nancy?

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        • Notcoolanymore
          Senior Member
          • Jun 2013
          • 2246

          #5
          Sorry, It's just getting rediculous. Not trying to make anybody lose hope.

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          • 25 going on 65
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 1476

            #6
            Originally posted by Notcoolanymore
            And forget about a "natural cure" that you can take without side effects. No money in that. If(and that's a big IF) there ever is a cure, I can guarantee you it will be a drug that must be taken for the rest of your life and is expensive. The drug of course will have plenty of potential sides: impotence, cancer, developement of breasts, other stuff that is worse than hairloss, and of course more hair loss.
            If the cure was to be found in nature I think someone would have noticed in the last 100,000 years of pattern baldness.

            If there was a lifelong drug that 100% reversed MPB I would be happy to take it

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            • BigThinker
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2012
              • 1507

              #7
              It's mind-blowing it's 2013 and we can't keep our hair.

              It's mostly painful to think that someday men will not have to worry about hair loss, but unfortunately that won't be the case for me.

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              • 25 going on 65
                Senior Member
                • Sep 2010
                • 1476

                #8
                Originally posted by BigThinker
                It's mind-blowing it's 2013 and we can't keep our hair.

                It's mostly painful to think that someday men will not have to worry about hair loss, but unfortunately that won't be the case for me.
                We are probably the last generation that will have to deal with this.
                In fact if we all knew more about MPB before it happened to us, we might not be dealing with it. If I could go back in time I would have started DHT inhibs a year before any signs of loss.

                If I ever have a son and there is not a cure yet for MPB, I am srsly going to make sure he understands the risk and how to stop it from happening long before he loses his first strand. If my dad did that for me my life would be significantly better right now

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                • Aames
                  Inactive
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 626

                  #9
                  You guys know what's even worse? EVERY effective treatment is either:
                  a) An accidental discovery; the drug in question was being studied for something else. Hair regrowth was just a noticed side effect.
                  b) Experimental and will likely never see FDA approval or widespread use.

                  I cannot think of a SINGLE effective treatment that was developed and crafted solely for the purpose of saving our hair. We are on the verge of curing AIDS but we cannot manage to come up with a foolproof method for keeping these little strands attached to our scalps. Amazing.

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                  • deuce
                    Senior Member
                    • May 2013
                    • 209

                    #10
                    I know man it is truly depressing and mind boggling there is no sign of a cure in sight. Its crazy to me that they can clone animals and humans, but cannot stop male pattern baldness. This stuff is so depressing. I think about it all day. Today my 5 year old nephew asked me why I am bald. It sucks. I cannot use propecia because I get the worst sides. I messaged the sompany about the finasteride with the topical film, but got no response from them yet. It sounds real promising, but too good to be true.

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                    • ChrisM
                      Senior Member
                      • Jun 2012
                      • 299

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Aames
                      You guys know what's even worse? EVERY effective treatment is either:
                      a) An accidental discovery; the drug in question was being studied for something else. Hair regrowth was just a noticed side effect.
                      b) Experimental and will likely never see FDA approval or widespread use.

                      I cannot think of a SINGLE effective treatment that was developed and crafted solely for the purpose of saving our hair. We are on the verge of curing AIDS but we cannot manage to come up with a foolproof method for keeping these little strands attached to our scalps. Amazing.
                      AIDS has killed millions upon millions of people over the decades. Male pattern baldness does not have the same track record. So it is a matter of priorities in the pharmaceutical and medical communities baldness although inconvenient does not cause by itself a road leading to death.

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                      • DepressedByHairLoss
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 854

                        #12
                        I really agree with all of your comments. The lack of innovation in the hair loss field is absolutely staggering. It seems like barely anyone is even trying to innovate. As I've said before, I really believe that a lot of people in the hair loss field do not want to innovate at all because they are already making ridiculous amounts of money performing these archaic hair transplants. That's why oftentimes when a new breakthrough in hair loss occurs, you hear some HT surgeons bashing it.

                        We're all really fed up with the limited options being presented to us to treat our hair loss. I always laugh when I hear FUT being described as some kind of "gold standard". How the hell can it be a gold standard if most people do not even opt to undergo the procedure in the first place?

                        I mean, I've read about windpipes and skin being cloned, yet these procedures are only being performed on a select few. There is so much innovation in so many other fields of medicine yet when talking about hair loss, all we seem to hear about is the same tired old garbage: minoxidil, finasteride, and hair transplants. Oh well, at least some people like Dr. Nigam are willing to innovate and try to give us better options to regrow our hair. I wish there were more doctors like him out there.

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                        • 25 going on 65
                          Senior Member
                          • Sep 2010
                          • 1476

                          #13
                          Hair loss affects more people than AIDS or cancer....

                          Just saying, scientists. Just saying.

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                          • burtandernie
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2012
                            • 1563

                            #14
                            Yeah I have to agree with you our current treatments are just dangerous and not very good they dont keep your hair long term.
                            Hopefully PGD 2 or something like that will lead us to at the very least allow us to keep our hair. Growing a whole lot of new hair seems to be a whole lot more elusive then anyone really thought. We have tons of individual discoveries but they never form any cohesive single treatment. 10 years from now you will be using 20 different products for that kitchen sink approach?

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                            • BigThinker
                              Senior Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 1507

                              #15
                              Originally posted by ChrisM
                              AIDS has killed millions upon millions of people over the decades. Male pattern baldness does not have the same track record. So it is a matter of priorities in the pharmaceutical and medical communities baldness although inconvenient does not cause by itself a road leading to death.
                              What did we do to deserve MPB? Be born?

                              People who get AIDS have unprotected sex and/or share needles (minus the handful of poor individuals who get raped) -- they engage in risky behavior.

                              I hate to be crude, but I have little sympathy for people who contract AIDs because they thought needed a heroine fix or were too stupid to practice safe sex habits.

                              Scientists: I WILL PAY YOU MONEY TO SAVE MY HAIR. I bet most people who have AIDs can't pay for their respective cure.

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